News Round Up 2016

[eXo]

If I could only choose one of those 2 rides to go on, I'd choose Pooh. Subjectively, I think i's a more interesting ride. VOTLM, even though it's based on my wives favorite princess and all that, is as standard of a dark ride as you can get. Pooh has an interesting queue and a unique presentation.

Apart from subjectivity, Pooh is likely also seen as a ride for all ages and genders. My son loved it, but was not so interested in VOTLM. Purely anecdotal evidence. I'm simply saying I can see reasons for the lopsided appeal.

edit: hadn't even considered ride capacity. That makes a lot of sense.

 

[rteetz]

I don't understand any of the FL lines. Why do some want to wait 60 mins for Pooh, but Votlm stays at 20 mins?

It's the older dark rides that are more popular. Also look at capacity. I don't think mermaid is more popular than pooh but mermaid has more capacity meaning less of a wait.

 

[rteetz]

News

Captain America and Spider-Man come to DCA April 3rd.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...-to-disney-california-adventure-park-april-3/

With this SuperHero HQ is leaving Disneyland.

 

[RooRach0906]

News (that I didn't see here, so sorry if it's a repeat)

Purple magic bands are now a free option in MDE.

Thanks for posting this, I just went in and changed my color for our upcoming trip!!!!

 

[dlavender]

I get the people/hr capacity. Psychologically, I don't know how a grown person stands in front of Pooh, sees 60 mins on the wait time, and continues to get in line. I love my kids, but I have limits...

 

[rteetz]

I get the people/hr capacity. Psychologically, I don't know how a grown person stands in front of Pooh, sees 60 mins on the wait time, and continues to get in line. I love my kids, but I have limits...

Once in a life-timers will do it.

 

[rteetz]

News

WDWNT believes Disney will be expanding Launch Bay with the closure of SuperHero HQ

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/03/disne...wars-launch-bay-closing-marvel-super-hero-hq/

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I do agree about that and we won't ride it unless we get there in time for a rope drop or have a fp+. And I'd wondered before if the wait time may go down in a few years after the "newness" wears off a bit, but it's been several years already and it doesn't seem to be slowing down at all. Honestly, I think the big draw is that anyone can ride it ... the littles ... scaredy adults ... the grands ... teens ... and if anyone can and will ride it, it's gonna increase the wait times. I also think too, that there are so few of these types of coasters, that guests are not spreading out, they are all converging on this one coaster. I'm gonna try Barnstormer again on our next trip as well as BTMRR for the first time, but if I "hate" them, it'll be back to the mine train for me.

Is there a way they could have done the mine train differently that could have reduced the wait time? I don't usually get into the technical side of the rides, so I'm not sure what could or should have been done differently. Or is it not so much the ride itself but something they should have changed park-wide?

I think that is the big thing and seems like each park has *that* ride that everyone can ride and being the big ride to ride - which increases demand for FP+ which in turn makes people think that it is the big popular ride so "i have to ride it" which builds up wait times. I think most extreme example of this is Toy Story Midway Mania which still over has 90+ min wait.

 

[rteetz]

Photo Update

Animal Kingdom update

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/03/photo-report-animal-kingdom-3716-rivers-of-light-avatar-tiffins-etc/

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Peter Pan's wait, even when slow during evening magic hours just blows my mind. I like the ride, but not enough to wait or use a fast pass on it.

I think it almost becomes a self fullfilling prophesy with everyone "knowing" it will have a long wait so they rush there right at rope drop and it just becomes one of those things you "have" to do - especially if a once in a lifetime trip. The dark ride is such classic Disney (even if Walt didn't actually invent them) and PP has the unique aspect of being suspended from the top so it gets more popular than others and it just builds on itself.

 

[Disneymom1126]

Photo Update

Animal Kingdom update

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/03/photo-report-animal-kingdom-3716-rivers-of-light-avatar-tiffins-etc/

Great update! The details they've put into the control tower for ROL are beautiful and it looks like the lanterns are going to give it the quiet/intimate feel that they talked about on the video that was posted on Disney Parks Blog a week or so ago.

 

[Eoghann]

I don't understand any of the FL lines. Why do some want to wait 60 mins for Pooh, but Votlm stays at 20 mins?

I don't find waiting 60mins for Pooh or Pan any weirder than 60 minutes for Space Mountain.

I wouldn't wait an hour for anything, but if I had to I'd pick the two dark rides personally.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I know what you are talking about - I would agree a C or maybe D ticket - we don't have to go through the D ticket argument again and what used to be a D ticket right? The railroad? The Tiki Room? The Skyway? The E-ticket term has led people to try and rank other rides by A,B,C,D, and it isn't really how it worked. The only term that should really be used is "E-ticket" for a top flight ride - and 7DMT is definitely NOT an E-ticket, I agree.

But I don't really get your argument on this. Are you saying that DISNEY is doing something wrong by having people convinced to wait in line for 2 hours for this ride? How is that Disney's doing? Disney built a ride that in my opinion is VERY appropriate for the area of the park that it was built - in all of WDW, if anyplace should only have "all-ages" rides, it's Fantasyland.

Anyways - the length of the line as stand has little to do with what the ride "deserves" two hour waits for Soarin should've been over in 2005. But people still choose to wait in those lines, and therefore they exist because someone (many people) are willing to wait in them.

In the end, this is one case where Disney agrees with you. They don't want people waiting in long lines at all. They aren't spending money when waiting in line. That's what MDE/FP+ is all about. It's why they are adding on to TSMM and Soarin', get people out of line and into stores and spending.

Not blaming Disney at all...

They did what they did...and now they're doing what they're doing - which luckily is building a lot.

They aren't the problem.

 

[skier_pete]

I get the people/hr capacity. Psychologically, I don't know how a grown person stands in front of Pooh, sees 60 mins on the wait time, and continues to get in line. I love my kids, but I have limits...

What I think is funny is the entire concept of waiting 60 minutes in line for something. We've done 10 WDW and 3 DL trips in the last 10 years, ridden probably 100s upon 100s of rides, and never, never, ever waited for ANYTHING 60 minutes - in fact rarely have we waited more than 20 minutes, though occasionally this will occur. (We waited about 25 minutes for Pirates at DLR last month.) I have always found with the use of Rope Drop and FP+ there is really no need to ever wait in long lines. Last trip we rode the 7DMT twice by using FP+ on two separate days, but we still rode every other ride in MK at least once - or at least all the ones we wanted to. I think our longest wait was maybe 10 minutes at Haunted Mansion. Admittedly we always go at the less crowded times of year, so I suppose if we were to be there at Christmas we might suffer through longer waits, but once we see waits of >30 minutes, we don't even bother getting in line.

So anyways - when I hear someone say "can you believe people wait X times for Y ride" I can't help but think, no I can't believe it.

 

[Eoghann]

What I think is funny is the entire concept of waiting 60 minutes in line for something. We've done 10 WDW and 3 DL trips in the last 10 years, ridden probably 100s upon 100s of rides, and never, never, ever waited for ANYTHING 60 minutes - in fact rarely have we waited more than 20 minutes, though occasionally this will occur. (We waited about 25 minutes for Pirates at DLR last month.) I have always found with the use of Rope Drop and FP+ there is really no need to ever wait in long lines. Last trip we rode the 7DMT twice by using FP+ on two separate days, but we still rode every other ride in MK at least once - or at least all the ones we wanted to. I think our longest wait was maybe 10 minutes at Haunted Mansion. Admittedly we always go at the less crowded times of year, so I suppose if we were to be there at Christmas we might suffer through longer waits, but once we see waits of >30 minutes, we don't even bother getting in line.

So anyways - when I hear someone say "can you believe people wait X times for Y ride" I can't help but think, no I can't believe it.

25 minutes is my upper limit. The only exception on our last trip was Toy Story which, even with a Fast Pass took longer than that to go through the queue, and if it had just been me I'd have pulled out of line. Rope drop solves 90% of queuing problems I agree and the rest can be solved with just a little common sense. If a line is long, do something else and come back during the parade!

 

[Disneymom1126]

What I think is funny is the entire concept of waiting 60 minutes in line for something. We've done 10 WDW and 3 DL trips in the last 10 years, ridden probably 100s upon 100s of rides, and never, never, ever waited for ANYTHING 60 minutes - in fact rarely have we waited more than 20 minutes, though occasionally this will occur. (We waited about 25 minutes for Pirates at DLR last month.) I have always found with the use of Rope Drop and FP+ there is really no need to ever wait in long lines. Last trip we rode the 7DMT twice by using FP+ on two separate days, but we still rode every other ride in MK at least once - or at least all the ones we wanted to. I think our longest wait was maybe 10 minutes at Haunted Mansion. Admittedly we always go at the less crowded times of year, so I suppose if we were to be there at Christmas we might suffer through longer waits, but once we see waits of >30 minutes, we don't even bother getting in line.

So anyways - when I hear someone say "can you believe people wait X times for Y ride" I can't help but think, no I can't believe it.

The only thing we've waited a long time for is Rock'n'Roller Coaster -- the issue there was with the tiering, we chose our "tier 1" fastpass for TSMM and I honestly didn't think that DD would have ridden RnRC so we didn't head that direction at rope drop...and then later in the day she "really" wanted to ride it. Now that I know she will ride it, we'll probably still get a FP for TSMM since it's a mad dash for that at rope drop and I'd rather avoid that crowd, but then we'll head to RnRC right at rope drop to avoid the long wait later in the day.

 

[Budshark]

Rope drop... we have made rope drop 1 time in our life. Disneyland 1.5 years ago so dad (me) could do the speed walk dash to get a slot in line for A&E Meet and Greet. The ONLY rope drop we have ever done. Probably need to make that more of a strategy, but the family likes there extra hour of sleep in the morning. Of course, families like mine are why rope drop works.

Maybe I'll take over planning for the September trip this year.

 

[rteetz]

News

Invictus game tickets on sale

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...r-invictus-games-at-walt-disney-world-resort/

 

[jade1]

The only thing we've waited a long time for is Rock'n'Roller Coaster -- the issue there was with the tiering, we chose our "tier 1" fastpass for TSMM and I honestly didn't think that DD would have ridden RnRC so we didn't head that direction at rope drop...and then later in the day she "really" wanted to ride it. Now that I know she will ride it, we'll probably still get a FP for TSMM since it's a mad dash for that at rope drop and I'd rather avoid that crowd, but then we'll head to RnRC right at rope drop to avoid the long wait later in the day.

Yea thats not always something we choose, but if we do we can do TSM at RD without any FP and then RNR is still only a few minute wait after that, always done in under 30 minutes, then TOT is usually about 15 minutes. Under an hour for those 3.

Then we have FP+ for that evening at DHS or another park.

 

[Serena {LivingByDisney}]

I think it almost becomes a self fullfilling prophesy with everyone "knowing" it will have a long wait so they rush there right at rope drop and it just becomes one of those things you "have" to do - especially if a once in a lifetime trip. The dark ride is such classic Disney (even if Walt didn't actually invent them) and PP has the unique aspect of being suspended from the top so it gets more popular than others and it just builds on itself.

The thing with Peter Pan too, is that it's nostalgic. So if you haven't been to WDW in a long time but you remember that ride as being really magical then you just have to ride it again. I also think that ride is a good example of how a low tech older ride can really capture imagination. Special effects, 3D, VR, all cool stuff... But sometimes the simple things are better.

What I think is funny is the entire concept of waiting 60 minutes in line for something. We've done 10 WDW and 3 DL trips in the last 10 years, ridden probably 100s upon 100s of rides, and never, never, ever waited for ANYTHING 60 minutes - in fact rarely have we waited more than 20 minutes, though occasionally this will occur. (We waited about 25 minutes for Pirates at DLR last month.) I have always found with the use of Rope Drop and FP+ there is really no need to ever wait in long lines. Last trip we rode the 7DMT twice by using FP+ on two separate days, but we still rode every other ride in MK at least once - or at least all the ones we wanted to. I think our longest wait was maybe 10 minutes at Haunted Mansion. Admittedly we always go at the less crowded times of year, so I suppose if we were to be there at Christmas we might suffer through longer waits, but once we see waits of >30 minutes, we don't even bother getting in line.

So anyways - when I hear someone say "can you believe people wait X times for Y ride" I can't help but think, no I can't believe it.

The other thing you are doing right, aside from getting there at ripe drop and going less busy times, is making your FP res early. You can't get them for the popular rides unless you plan far in advance. It's a pet peeve of mine being local. I can only book 30 days in advance so by then FP for most the very popular rides are gone. I end up having to wait in the lines. -_- And yes at Christmas it's very safe to say you would be waiting a lot more, haha... It's crazy then!