NEW VGF Building

Why do all of that? The current configuration of the rooms I believe is two queens and a daybed. They could make it two queens and a daybed.

They're gonna plus it up to sell it. Flooring will happen because of COVID. I would love to see them keep the two queen, daybed configuration. Families with older children would probably prefer them.

And I think they're going to offer decent add-on incentives that bring the cost per point down to around $225 or so. Rivera sits with incentives (at the 150 point level) around $186. This is their flagship resort next to their flagship park. They'll want it have a premium, but not something crazy that current members don't buy in.
 
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I think they'll be more points than the current studios. First they will be quite a bit bigger. Second, right now VGF is kind of the ceiling for points. They don't go above that with other resorts. If they increase these then they could use that as the new top end and have new resorts with studios falling in between the original studios and these new ones. Also interested in what a theme park view studio will be for points.
 
Why? I could have bought VGF for less already.
  • Same expiration date
  • Same highest at WDW point charts (or very close)
  • Same location
  • More expensive than VGF already was previously
Is it a minor hit against resale restriction? Sort of but its honestly not really any change since it's not a new resort.
Yes anybody who bought at RIV could have certainly chose to bought elsewhere. But when they were buying and if they were aware of the restrictions (unfortunately many are not) they would be under the assumption this is how things will be going forward as new resorts would be restricted in the same way regarding resale. If DVC starts this at other resorts then we end up years down the road with no new resorts but 1000’s of added rooms at various existing resorts and RIV is still the only restricted resort. At least if new “resorts” are brought online it normalizes the restrictions over time. This may do the opposite especially if these add on’s are not considered new resorts as technically they could be reserved with currently bought resale contracts as they would be considered an original resort. Which really does not make any business sense for DVC to do as they would be competing with resale contracts in regards to selling. The only advantage to buying direct would be your able to stay at RIV on those points.
 

I’d also like to see a BLT2 (with direct incentives) and would be fine with the years left, especially if they kept the current point chart.
BLT2 built at the remaining garden wing would have a poorer MK view. This effectively introduces a new pool of owners to compete for rooms in BLT1. Not good unless if they keep it a separate DVC.
 
This explains why they didnt jack up the price last round. This price is about to be INSANE.
What do you think this does to resale prices? They were getting too high and I think this is Disney’s way of capitalizing on those purchases. Again, why not buy direct for a little more, get blue card benefits, desired UY, points amount and previous years points?
 
Really excited by this. Looking to purchase my first contract in the next year or so, was looking at riviera but if this is similarly or only slightly higher priced but would love it but in at grand Floridian!
 
What do you think this does to resale prices? They were getting too high and I think this is Disney’s way of capitalizing on those purchases. Again, why not buy direct for a little more, get blue card benefits, desired UY, points amount and previous years points?
Yes! I love the standard proximity to the monorail. If they turn the new building into the same "standard" then you will lose what I see as the perk of that standard room. I wonder if they can mark the new rooms as pool view or garden view but keep the standard point chart just so people can distinguish.
 
What do you think this does to resale prices? They were getting too high and I think this is Disney’s way of capitalizing on those purchases. Again, why not buy direct for a little more, get blue card benefits, desired UY, points amount and previous years points?

I disagree they were too high. I bought in the 150s over the summer, because VGF was priced cheaper than SSR for SAP. Even now, in the 180s, VGF is right up there with the cheapest points in the system.

This is the flagship hotel. It should be a heck of a lot more expensive than SSR. I think it has a lot of room for a way increased price. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 250 or 275 direct. Of course, resale will follow. I don’t think Disney is too worried about VGF resale. There just isn’t very much of it.

I expect to see a new theme park view category with an eye watering chart.

I’m surprised the chart didn’t increase the VGF studio price for 2022 so they could add more total points. It’s the same as 2021. That makes me think this is a recent decision. It also might have something to do with why the 2022 revision may or may not be happening.

The timeshare math works against VGF’s rack rate, even at way high pricing. Plus, it makes RIV look cheap. Disney can fire up the soft serve machine and get some points sold!
 



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