New Soarin etiquette please

[HopperFan]

I read OP that these four adults were not talking and noting the film locations but "yelled (no exaggeration)" and "scream commentary" which is completely unnecessary on Soarin' and takes away from others immersive experience. It is a theater attraction.

I get the whole special needs thing, my DS is very involved with multiple issues and has at times had a panic attack. While I have experienced other guests being rude for no reason at all other than his looks, I have never had another guest be disrespectful when he's had a panic attack (he can be vocal). I've actually had them offer me assistance.

My opinion is that Soarin' is best observed with mostly quiet and oohs and aaahs. Not yelling, screaming or whooping it up. It is not a thrill ride and a favorite among the grandparent group. It would be fine to lean over and tell your children where something is, but I don't read that in OP's post.

BUT if you want a Soarin' CM opinion ............ DD worked there. Told me LOTS of stories. Once two teen girls were yelling and trying to make it a thrill ride .... DD was working in the tower which controls the entire ride. She was able to see the girls up close (everyone is on camera and yes she's see some bad stuff) and knew they were fine and yelling for no reason. She contemplated an E-Stop (which she would do if someone appears upset) because in her eyes they were ruining the ride for everyone else. But E-Stops take awhile to reset and slow the lines down. She let it conclude but not before a manager arrived. They pulled the family over to the side and told the the girls behavior was inappropriate and they ruined the ride for everyone around them. That screaming/yelling/being vocal was for the thrill rides and not theater attractions and please keep it in check.

 

[maxiesmom]

If it is OK to yell and scream on Soarin, then it is ok on every ride. Hope you don't want to see the Haunted Mansion without a lot of fake screaming, it is A-OK! It is also expect that someone scream during the Hall of Presidents, inside Spaceship Earth, and Journey into your Imagination. After all, a ride is a ride and everything is inside a theme park, right? Guess that makes it perfectly acceptable to yell and scream during my dinner at Le Ceiller too.

 

[goofyernmost]

If it is OK to yell and scream on Soarin, then it is ok on every ride. Hope you don't want to see the Haunted Mansion without a lot of fake screaming, it is A-OK! It is also expect that someone scream during the Hall of Presidents, inside Spaceship Earth, and Journey into your Imagination. After all, a ride is a ride and everything is inside a theme park, right? Guess that makes it perfectly acceptable to yell and scream during my dinner at Le Ceiller too.

I don't recall ever hearing anyone fake screaming or even screaming at all on Haunted Mansion... ever. And I have ridden it more times then I can count. I know that things like that bother some, and I have had a few occasions when I wished I could just tell people to shut up, but, as said, it is an themed amusement park and people are there to have fun and leave their adult persona at the door. So, I just overlook it and move along with my day.

 

[maxiesmom]

I don't recall ever hearing anyone fake screaming or even screaming at all on Haunted Mansion... ever. And I have ridden it more times then I can count. I know that things like that bother some, and I have had a few occasions when I wished I could just tell people to shut up, but, as said, it is an themed amusement park and people are there to have fun and leave their adult persona at the door. So, I just overlook it and move along with my day.

I'm glad for you. Because I have had my ride on the Haunted Mansion ruined more than once by people fake-screaming. And one time they were even yelled at by whoever was next to them, and it sounded like they were all part of a group. You can leave your "adult persona" at the door without becoming a rude, entitled jerk.

 

[swfmco]

Why can't there be a discussion about how rude some people behave without somebody interjecting how their "special needs" child does the same thing and how we all have to deal with it? Rude is rude, and even if it's something that cannot be helped, it still adversely affects the experience of the people around them. Sorry your kids has issues, but if I just waited an hour to ride and I hear your kid screaming during the entire ride, it still sucks.

 

[BigAlsGal]

I had an experience on the old soarin. I mean, I understand first timers being surprised or vocal but this woman screamed and lifted her feet the whole time while her husband laughed. Luckily I had been on the ride many times but I could see how a first timer might have been pretty upset at the distraction of her screaming like a lunatic.

You don't need to lift your feet! We're not really flying over trees! Lol

 

[Moback]

There's a difference between thrill rides and one like Soarin'. You expect people to shout and scream on a thrill ride, but not so much on Soarin'. One or two talking loud would quite likely be special needs related, but four adults probably not. To be honest, I have relatively low expectations of guest behavior. No matter where you are or what you're doing, there is going to be rude behavior. Just a sad fact of life now.

I beg to differ. I cannot stand being off the ground so to me this is a thrill ride.

 

[Moback]

If it is OK to yell and scream on Soarin, then it is ok on every ride. Hope you don't want to see the Haunted Mansion without a lot of fake screaming, it is A-OK! It is also expect that someone scream during the Hall of Presidents, inside Spaceship Earth, and Journey into your Imagination. After all, a ride is a ride and everything is inside a theme park, right? Guess that makes it perfectly acceptable to yell and scream during my dinner at Le Ceiller too.

That works for me. Seeing some of the folks on the stage at the hall of presidents scares the heck out of me.

 

[Hibiscus]

Why can't there be a discussion about how rude some people behave without somebody interjecting how their "special needs" child does the same thing and how we all have to deal with it? Rude is rude, and even if it's something that cannot be helped, it still adversely affects the experience of the people around them. Sorry your kids has issues, but if I just waited an hour to ride and I hear your kid screaming during the entire ride, it still sucks.

Yup. Yes, in some situations a person cannot help being rude. That doesn't make it NOT rude. It's still annoying.

 

[Hibiscus]

I'm glad for you. Because I have had my ride on the Haunted Mansion ruined more than once by people fake-screaming. And one time they were even yelled at by whoever was next to them, and it sounded like they were all part of a group. You can leave your "adult persona" at the door without becoming a rude, entitled jerk.

I have never had a trip that didn't include idiots screaming in the HM stretching room or after the movie at Tower of Terror. That or saying "THE TWILIGHT ZONE" out loud like you're the first hilarious moron to ever come up with the idea.

 

[fla4fun]

At least you didn't have someone next to you screaming "I'm gonna vomit!" through the whole thing. Now that could really ruin the ride experience (no vomiting occurred though, thankfully!).

 

[Kona65]

Then you would never want to be on space mountain with me.

Absolutely not the same.

 

[MAF]

Why can't there be a discussion about how rude some people behave without somebody interjecting how their "special needs" child does the same thing and how we all have to deal with it? Rude is rude, and even if it's something that cannot be helped, it still adversely affects the experience of the people around them. Sorry your kids has issues, but if I just waited an hour to ride and I hear your kid screaming during the entire ride, it still sucks.

It wouldn't be the Dis without "special needs" being added into every thread topic.

 

[BK2014]

Yup. Yes, in some situations a person cannot help being rude. That doesn't make it NOT rude. It's still annoying.

Seriously? There is a difference between rude behavior and annoying behavior. All annoying behavior is not rude. If someone cannot control their behavior, they may be annoying, but not rude. A screaming baby at a restaurant may certainly be annoying, but you would hardly describe the baby as being rude. A screaming adult in a restaurant (lets say in the context of an argument) is both annoying and rude. Rude has to do with showing lack of concern for those around you. If one has a legitimate reason for not understanding/controlling their actions, then they certainly may be annoying, but not rude.

 

[SillySallySews]

I am an adult with specle need and no you can not tell by looking at me that there is any thing wrong with me how do you know they did not have a hearing problem and did not know how loud they were.

This! I have two kids (10 and 14) who were born with hearing loss. One has worn hearing aids since he was four, the other since she was four months old. Their hearing aids are pretty small and you especially cannot notice them on my daughter when she's wearing her hair down. I have to remind them 100x a day to lower their voices because they honestly have no idea they are shouting. I am 110% sure that some day as adults they are bound to annoy the crap out of someone without being intentional. Sorry in advance!

 

[GaryDis]

It's a ride in an amusement park. People are going to enjoy themselves and some of them are going to be loud. To expect anything different in that venue really doesn't touch reality.

I don't understand why I shouldn't expect the same behavior in Soarin' as in a movie theater, including the oohs and aahs that would admittedly be more common on Soarin' but are appropriate for many movie scenes. In other words, it's inappropriate for any conversation that can be heard farther than immediately adjacent seats, and the sort of conversation heard at adjacent seats should be kept to a minimum.

Yes, I know Soarin' uses seats that rise up and move. So what?

 

[maltdizzy]

Seriously? There is a difference between rude behavior and annoying behavior. All annoying behavior is not rude. If someone cannot control their behavior, they may be annoying, but not rude. A screaming baby at a restaurant may certainly be annoying, but you would hardly describe the baby as being rude. A screaming adult in a restaurant (lets say in the context of an argument) is both annoying and rude. Rude has to do with showing lack of concern for those around you. If one has a legitimate reason for not understanding/controlling their actions, then they certainly may be annoying, but not rude.

Poor example.

Not removing a screaming baby/child from a restaurant is just as rude.

Have the baby start crying halfway theough Small World...well, then te parentms options areore limited.

 

[Pixie Dust ✨]

Not removing a screaming baby/child from a restaurant is just as rude.

To the other point, annoying behavior is not any less annoying when it comes from someone with special needs. What does (should) change is how you choose to respond to it.

 

[goofyernmost]

I'm glad for you. Because I have had my ride on the Haunted Mansion ruined more than once by people fake-screaming. And one time they were even yelled at by whoever was next to them, and it sounded like they were all part of a group. You can leave your "adult persona" at the door without becoming a rude, entitled jerk.

The adult persona was concerning other things. My comment about HM was absolutely true. I'd say that I have ridden that over 50 times and, whether I was lucky or not, I have never witnessed it. Sorry, your experience is way different then mine. I am not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying that it has never happened when I rode it. The problem with this is that everyone has a different definition of what constitutes Rude or being a Jerk. Yours is yours and others have a different gauge that determines that. So lets just agree to disagree on the actualities of the situation and just focus on how we individually cope with the behavior of others. Remember, they are still enjoying themselves where you have made yourself miserable because you don't like how they act. It's tough to win in that situation.

 

[maxiesmom]

The adult persona was concerning other things. My comment about HM was absolutely true. I'd say that I have ridden that over 50 times and, whether I was lucky or not, I have never witnessed it. Sorry, your experience is way different then mine. I am not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying that it has never happened when I rode it. The problem with this is that everyone has a different definition of what constitutes Rude or being a Jerk. Yours is yours and others have a different gauge that determines that. So lets just agree to disagree on the actualities of the situation and just focus on how we individually cope with the behavior of others. Remember, they are still enjoying themselves where you have made yourself miserable because you don't like how they act. It's tough to win in that situation.

I disagree that people are making themselves miserable in a situation like the OP explained. I don't see it any different than telling someone that a child having a screaming fit in a restaurant is ok, and if it ruins your experience it is your problem. And if people get their joy out of ruining things for others, well, they are not what I would call nice people.