New rumor?

[TiggerFreak]

From ThemeParkInsider:

"Disney has been reportedly working on another “mountain” attraction for the Canada Pavilion in the World Showcase with a Brother Bear theme. Everything for this attraction is still speculation, but from reports, construction of some type will be occurring in the near future between Soarin’ and Canada."

Maybe I missed this last month while I was at WDW!
There is a link to this on the Orlando Sentinel's Business/Tourism section.

 

[All Aboard]

The rumor has been that it will be a river rapids type ride (similar to Grizzly at DCA or Kali at AK).

 

[Miss Park Avenue]

That makes sense. After all in the MK there is a Splash Mountain that is a water ride.

This is a really cool rumour! Thanks for sharing!!

 

[Peter Pirate]

This is one of my persoanl favorite rumors (aside from an Indy ride at the Studios, of course). BB would be a great tie in for Canada, the splash ride is relatively easy to accomplish, the wet factor would be appreciated on those hot summer days and it would of the minor 'thrill' variety that almost everybody could enjoy.

 

[raidermatt]

I agree with much of what you said, Pete, but of course, not all of it...

I have no problem with a splash type ride in Epcot, and even in World Showcase.

But I just can't be happy about a Brother Bear, or any other animated film, tie in for such a major ride in World Showcase. We just don't need the animated characters taking over WS.

Make it a ride through the Canadian wilderness, or whatever. Like Maelstrom is a better fit as is than with Donald Duck playing the part of the troll, "Canadian Splash" would be a better fit for that area without Koda, Rutt and Tuke.

'Course, I don't like the characters moving into Future World either, but that train has already left the station.

 

[BRERALEX]

"Canadian Splash" would be a better fit for that area without Koda, Rutt and Tuke.

You know you had to look up the characters names online somewhere!

 

[dbm20th]

We all know that the World Showcase is going to change sooner or later, even just a bit. This ride would make sense to broaden WS's appeal to a younger audience, though its lack of rides is what I like about it now.

I think a ride without the Brother Bear tie-in is most likely.

 

[raidermatt]

You know you had to look up the characters names online somewhere!

Who, me?

I had Koda, but had to check the spelling on Tuke. Never would have remembered Rutt on my own.

 

[All Aboard]

I'm on the fence on the character tie-in on this one for some reason.

But, if you really want to enjoy Brother Bear, watch it with the Rutt and Tuque ('cmon it's Bob and Doug, what's a "Tuke"?) commentary turned on. It is absolutely hilarious (especially to fans of SCTV).

 

[Peter Pirate]

Oh that Great White North commentary is great!

Koda is so lovable he is bound to be a Classic character and I don't see how reality and a character tie in couldn't both be involved.

 

[2Xited4Disney]

hahahah this rumor kills me every time i think about it...


I just picture Kali River Rapids with cardboard cut outs of characters from Brother Bear hahahaha

 

[YoHo]

I have two problems.
1: Grizzley River rapids is better then Kali, but it ain't all that.

2: Epcot was designed to not have the characters in it on purpose. Putting them in to "Draw the youngsters in" smacks of laziness.

Course I'd prefer they stayed in rides of Fantasyland, but that ship already sailed.

 

[YoHo]

I felt like this deserved a little bit more to address it, because there's more to it tn just laziness.


First from a practical perspective, Brother Bear is a story set in Alaska.

Don't believe me?

plug Sitka ak into mapquest or google maps.
Or Kenai ak
Tanana and Denahi appear to be close to Kenai.

Koda is short for Kodiak.
Google map Kodiak Alaska.
This is a story about Alaska to the point of naming convention, plus, the visual settings are prehistoric Alaska, Canada never looked like that.

They've already adopted Brother Bear for California in DCA (Kids play area) And it's not a bad fit Given that the Grizzley is on half the state signage. It may not fit the movie locale, but it makes good sense.


My other issue is one of theming. World shocase is supposed to be about people and cultures. Now I know there are some circle vision shows that go over scenic splendor, but generally that isn't the sole focus and it certainly isn't the main focus of World Showcase as a whole.

Brother Bear and as an overlay about Disney River rapids is simply not a story about the Canadian people and culture. Sure sure, I suppose you could claim the "first peoples" as the Canadians are legally required to call them, but even then, it's a stretch.
No, if ther eis going to be a Grizzley river rapids, it belongs in Animal Kingdom. Well, OK, they aren't gonna put another raft ride in there, but you get the point. AK's story is the Animals.


As for movie tie in in general. Despite my previous strong words, I think there are some very very good uses for tie ins. Leaving seas is potentially one of them. but if it is going to happen, I think it needs to be done carefully and not just as flimsy excuse to tie in a ride.

 

[dbm20th]

I have to agree with YoHO. Good arguments

I think that EPCOT is clearly getting a facelift, and WS does not need such a radical change. Soarin, MS, TT as well as something new in WOL and a new Spaceship Earth and voila you have everything the thrill-folks need.

Now WS can use some updating, but this is not the way to go. A log flume down a Canadian River is a great idea, but it would not need BB to make it work. It would, as YoHo said, defeat the purpose of WS.

How about a new country? An update to the films or the AA? Maybe add a ride/show to an existing country like Germany or Italy? Now we're talking

And, ohyeah, MAKE THE ROSE AND CROWN ALOT BIGGER!!

 

[Planogirl]

I'm still grumpy about Future World becoming a thrill ride park and the last thing I want to see is characters from a movie no one saw in World Showcase. Sorry but leave something for us old people.

 

[raidermatt]

By the by, here's exactly what was said by Themeparkinsider, via the OS:

On the far horizon, Disney has been reportedly working on another “mountain” attraction for the Canada Pavilion in the World Showcase with a Brother Bear theme. Everything for this attraction is still speculation, but from reports, construction of some type will be occurring in the near future between Soarin’ and Canada.

The question that always comes to mind when there are WS rumors is "who is paying for it?" It seems that the only way a new country or other addition will be added is if that country or business reps from that country agree to pay for it. That's why its been so long since a new country was added.

So has anything happened on that front in this case?

 

[All Aboard]

Yoho, even if it was set in exactly where Alaska is today, during Koda and Kenai's day the inhabitants were most likely akin to the original inhabitants of far Western Canada. Moreso than of Russia or the Western US (the two countries that have laid claim to it).

 

[YoHo]

Actually their more akin to the original (or second immigration) inhabitants of Alaska. Alaska was far more hospitable then western canada was at the time of the Mammoths (Or mastadons which is earlier) Canada was very inhospitable. It has to do with the Mountain ranges and the currents and Iceages and stuff.

At the time, there was nobody living in Canada only Alaska.

Ie the Eskimos and Anuit people of Alaska.

Sure, they're also in Canada.

 

[DancingBear]

But Rutt and Tuke are definitely Canucks, eh?

 

[YoHo]

Well of course you nob!

But they're like wanders looking for good hops.