New pool heat policy? ***update see post 549 ****

DVCPAT said:
Yes, you could simply do it with out much thought. You might not have job very long though. Sometimes it’s better to plan and upgrade the restaurant, rather than just trap cold air.

Well the same could be said about reducing the pool temps. That wasnt much more of a plan! Sometimes it is better to plan and upgrade the effiency of the heaters rather than just turn a dial on the thermostat. How much thought and planning did that take? :confused3

And whoever came up with that thought, should not have a job very long either!
 
LIFERBABE said:
Well the same could be said about reducing the pool temps. That wasnt much more of a plan! Sometimes it is better to plan and upgrade the effiency of the heaters rather than just turn a dial on the thermostat. How much thought and planning did that take? :confused3

And whoever came up with that thought, should not have a job very long either!


Generating heat consumes a lot of energy, period. If you can develop a new, more efficient way to generate heat, you could easily surpass Bill Gates wealth.
 
When we purchased our DVC (BWV and BCV) we did so for a variety of reasons one of which were beautiful, well maintained, heated swimming pools. We travel in the winter months and the pools have always been a highlight of our trip and have always been warm enough to enjoy even on cool days and nights. This is what we purchased and this is what I believe we as owners and of course the guests of the Boardwalk Inn and Beach Club Resort pay for. (Yes, I realize the pool temperatures were not in our DVC contract but I have been going on and off for 12 years to Disney and all of the pools have been warm; Poly, WL, GF, BWV, and BCV. I assumed a warm/comfortable pool at a deluxe Disney resort in Florida is what I would continue to get when I bought at the BWV and BCV. Maybe this was a bad assumption on my part.)

When energy prices rose significantly, we upgraded our pool heater to a more efficient system and purchased a solar cover. The savings were significant. I would suggest that Disney explore other avenues besides turning down the thermostat. Not only are the beautiful pools going to be empty but so are more of the rooms at these beautiful, deluxe, Disney hotels during the winter months.

Personally if the pools are going to be cold, then I will spend a few less days at Disney during each visit and will go to a full service resort on the beautiful beaches of Florida. I might as well sit on a beautiful beach and swim in the cool ocean.

I am going to hope and trust that Disney will correct this situation before my next winter visit as the issue really appears to be making a lot of loyal Disney customers (DVC and cash customers) pretty angry and frankly I don't blame them.

For those experiencing these cold pools during your visits, I hope the thermostat is turned up very soon. Hopefully 'Mickey' is reading and will listen to his customers!
 
corinnak said:
I am wondering - how big a solar collector would you need to keep SAB warm in the winter, and where would you put it? Is this like the solar panels of yore or is there a new solar heating system that is less huge?

I'm not an expert, but solar shingles are now available (we're starting to look at them for a section of our home's roof). And the resorts have LOTS of roof space. I'm sure there are a number of workable solar alternatives that would directly warm the water - and could utilize the roof areas. These can even be incorporated into sidewalks, walls or ANY area that the sun hits. Disney is well known for it's imagineering - why can't they use that imaginative engineering for solar pool heating?


DisFlan
 

DVCPAT said:
Generating heat consumes a lot of energy, period. If you can develop a new, more efficient way to generate heat, you could easily surpass Bill Gates wealth.

Hmmm....what is the big yellow thing in the sky called again? :sunny:
 
DVCPAT said:
Yes, you could simply do it with out much thought. You might not have job very long though. Sometimes it’s better to plan and upgrade the restaurant, rather than just trap cold air.

OK, lets think about it through April, plan it in May, Design it in June and install the windows the first weekend in July, just in time for the 95 and humid temps, return on investment will be oh......about a week and a half.
 
jade1 said:
OK, lets think about it through April, plan it in May, Design it in June and install the windows the first weekend in July, just in time for the 95 and humid temps, return on investment will be oh......about a week and a half.


Upgrades take time. Lets face it, Americans waste more energy than any other country on the face of the planet. If you look for examples of older, inefficient designs, you can find them. If you look for new innovative energy conserving programs, you’ll find them too.

Energy Management at the Walt Disney World Resort

In 1996, the Walt Disney World Resort joined forces with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to save energy by implementing the EPA Green Lights Program. Now known as the Energy Star Buildings Program, completion of this program in 1998 resulted in the electrical upgrade of more than 17 million square feet of facilities and the conservation of more than 46,000,000 kilowatt hours of energy -- enough to power Disney's Animal Kingdom during the first year of operation!

Augmenting those efforts, the Reedy Creek Energy Services Global Management team is on a mission to track energy usage across Walt Disney World Resort property, whether in a kitchen at Rainforest Cafe® or the wave pool at Typhoon Lagoon. New technology has made tracking energy consumption both easy and profitable, allowing Cast Members to monitor utility costs and consumption data on a daily basis, through an innovative intranet-based computer program called the Utility Reporting System. Building Tune-up Teams, comprised of Maintenance, Engineering, and Operations Cast Members, also use the system to fine tune facility Energy Management System settings, resulting in annual energy savings of 3 to 15 percent.
The Utility Reporting System is now used at the Disneyland Resort in California and the Disneyland Resort Paris, which is a testament to its simplicity, low cost of operation, and value to users throughout the Walt Disney Company" says Paul Allen, chief energy management engineer, Reedy Creek Energy Services.


Solar Power Lights Road to the Future

Solar power is a form of energy derived from sunlight, and as a result, is a free and renewable source of energy that can provide valuable heat and electricity. At the Walt Disney World Resort, a solar-powered traffic light uses technology that converts sunlight to power for LED (light emitting diode) lamps used in the traffic signal. The light emitted is equivalent to that generated by a traditional 135-watt system, but requires only 25 watts. As a result, the new system is expected to reduce energy bills by approximately $150 per month. In addition, installation costs were reduced because the process did not require construction to lay power cables underground since the electricity is derived from sunlight.
LED lamps last 5 to10 times longer than traditional incandescent lamps, and batteries used to power the system are 99 percent recyclable. This system also reduces the need for fossil fuels and consequent pollution

A solar-powered traffic light installed in front of a new firehouse at Walt Disney World will benefit both the environment and the bottom line. Solar power is a form of energy derived from sunlight, and as a result, is a free and renewable source of energy that can provide valuable heat and electricity. At the Walt Disney World Resort, a solar-powered traffic light uses technology that converts sunlight to power for LED (light emitting diode) lamps used in the traffic signal. The light emitted is equivalent to that generated by a traditional 135-watt system, but requires only 25 watts. As a result, the new system is expected to reduce energy bills by approximately $150 per month. In addition, installation costs were reduced because the process did not require construction to lay power cables underground since the electricity is derived from sunlight. LED lamps last 5 to10 times longer than traditional incandescent lamps, and batteries used to power the system are 99 percent
recyclable. This system also reduces the need for fossil fuels and consequent pollution.
 
HI, OP here again. I was delighted to find this in my inbox this morning:

Dear Mandy and DH,

Thank you for contacting Member Services. I apologize for the delay in my response.

I appreciate your taking the time to write concerning the pool temperatures during your recent
visit, and I would like to apologize for your disappointment. Based on feedback we have received
from our Members, our Recreation department will be adjusting the thermostat temperature on our
feature and leisure pools to 82 degrees. We value our Members' comfort, and want to be sure all
Members have an enjoyable Recreation experience when visiting the Walt Disney World Resort. Setting
the thermostat at 82 degrees will ensure our pools will be heated to a minimum of 82 degrees.

I would also like to apologize for your concerns with the menu options at Disney's Saratoga Springs
Resort & Spa. Thank you for taking the time to share your suggestions. You may be assured that I
will share them with the appropriate Leaders at the resort. I also appreciate the compliments you
have shared and will make sure the individuals mentioned are recognized for their great service.

Thank you again for sharing your feedback. We are glad you are a Member of our Disney Vacation Club
family, and we look forward to entertaining you for many years to come.

Sincerely,

Carli A. D'Agostino
Member Satisfaction Manager



Well I am so pleased. Looks like Disney did listen to our concerns. What a great result. :banana: :banana: :banana:

In a rush to go out now, did anyone else get this email too? If so,sorry if I missed it, in the middle of moving house and could have missed a previous announcement.

Mandy :sunny:
 
You go girl

Thanks Mandy thats a great e-mail for the morning to read
 
DVCPAT said:
Solar power is a form of energy derived from sunlight, and as a result, is a free and renewable source of energy that can provide valuable heat and electricity. .

What happened to "Generating heat consumes a lot of energy, period"?
 
DisFlan said:
mrsminniemouse - way to go! That sounds very positive.


DisFlan

Lets see, gas is $1.75 a gallon, lets let it hit $3 for a while, then when we get it back down to $2.50 we will look like heros and everyone will say "its a lot better than when its was 78 degrees-I mean $3".
 
I've been watching this forum/post grow and grow. And I'v held back, thinking, hmm- I'll wait till we get down there next month and see for myself. I've also been thinking, hmmm, I'd hate to vacation in a cold pool. I didn't want to write to Disney w/o any first hand knowledge either.

Anyhow...

The most recent response from the people at Disney that I've seen on this board
has provided me with hope. This is great. I'll report back with results next month. If there's room I'll even pack my pool thermometer!
 
Good to see that Disney was listening. Let's face it, that they needed wetsuits for lifeguards was beyond ridiculous. :rolleyes:
 
jade1 said:
What happened to "Generating heat consumes a lot of energy, period"?


43% of the resorts energy according to manning’s link. I’m not aware of the new pixie dust heaters that don’t require capital expenditures. Don’t get upset when the bill arrives in the mail. Just be willing to pay for what you want, nothings free.
 
jade1 said:
Lets see, gas is $1.75 a gallon, lets let it hit $3 for a while, then when we get it back down to $2.50 we will look like heros and everyone will say "its a lot better than when its was 78 degrees-I mean $3".


Wow. Seriously, I don't even know what to say.
 
Thank you, Mandy!! :love:
78 degrees is just too cold, I agree. Thanks so much for posting and thanks for letting DVC know how you felt. :grouphug:
 
mrsminniemouse said:
HI, OP here again. I was delighted to find this in my inbox this morning:

Dear Mandy and DH,

Thank you for contacting Member Services. I apologize for the delay in my response.

I appreciate your taking the time to write concerning the pool temperatures during your recent
visit, and I would like to apologize for your disappointment. Based on feedback we have received
from our Members, our Recreation department will be adjusting the thermostat temperature on our
feature and leisure pools to 82 degrees. We value our Members' comfort, and want to be sure all
Members have an enjoyable Recreation experience when visiting the Walt Disney World Resort. Setting
the thermostat at 82 degrees will ensure our pools will be heated to a minimum of 82 degrees.

I would also like to apologize for your concerns with the menu options at Disney's Saratoga Springs
Resort & Spa. Thank you for taking the time to share your suggestions. You may be assured that I
will share them with the appropriate Leaders at the resort. I also appreciate the compliments you
have shared and will make sure the individuals mentioned are recognized for their great service.

Thank you again for sharing your feedback. We are glad you are a Member of our Disney Vacation Club
family, and we look forward to entertaining you for many years to come.

Sincerely,

Carli A. D'Agostino
Member Satisfaction Manager



Well I am so pleased. Looks like Disney did listen to our concerns. What a great result. :banana: :banana: :banana:

In a rush to go out now, did anyone else get this email too? If so,sorry if I missed it, in the middle of moving house and could have missed a previous announcement.

Mandy :sunny:
:cool1: Well I for one am glad to read this! :thumbsup2
 
mrsminniemouse said:
HI, OP here again. I was delighted to find this in my inbox this morning:

Dear Mandy and DH,

Thank you for contacting Member Services. I apologize for the delay in my response.

I appreciate your taking the time to write concerning the pool temperatures during your recent
visit, and I would like to apologize for your disappointment. Based on feedback we have received
from our Members, our Recreation department will be adjusting the thermostat temperature on our
feature and leisure pools to 82 degrees. We value our Members' comfort, and want to be sure all
Members have an enjoyable Recreation experience when visiting the Walt Disney World Resort. Setting
the thermostat at 82 degrees will ensure our pools will be heated to a minimum of 82 degrees.

I would also like to apologize for your concerns with the menu options at Disney's Saratoga Springs
Resort & Spa. Thank you for taking the time to share your suggestions. You may be assured that I
will share them with the appropriate Leaders at the resort. I also appreciate the compliments you
have shared and will make sure the individuals mentioned are recognized for their great service.

Thank you again for sharing your feedback. We are glad you are a Member of our Disney Vacation Club
family, and we look forward to entertaining you for many years to come.

Sincerely,

Carli A. D'Agostino
Member Satisfaction Manager


Mandy :sunny:
I have found Carli very responsive to concerns I had raised. I think we are lucky to have her.
 



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