New Info about Splash Mountain foot stuck incident

[Tinky]

I agree with MosMom. People need to sit down and keep arms & legs in the vehicle and feet on the floor. I believe a 14 year old is old enough to understand these rules and realize that following these rules will help to keep them from getting hurt/injured.

Not being snarky but if we follow this logic further wouldnt the teenage pregnancy rate be lower? The rate of teen STD's??

As a former teenager (yes I was one once ) I know that being a teenager and making smart choices do not always go hand in hand.

ITA that we will probably never really know the whole story so speculation is entirely worthless.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

Disney stated to call a number they gave my wife for a ride back to the resort when done and not to worry about the bill. The driver tried to charge my wife for the ride. It was not free. My wife didnt have her purse on her because we left in a hurry back to MK. She said to bill the room or take the $2 she had on her.

That was a quote from the OP of the original original post..goodness it has branched so far! i just wanted to mention here that you are expected to pay for the ride that you are given and ask for a receipt and then take that to the FD of the resort and they will re-pay you there. This happened to me last year when i was taken to the ER (nothing Disneys fault i was PG and developed an allergic reaction). My family was taken there and back and we were compensated after our return.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

I think it's funny that pretty much everyone who has posted to this thread found it so hard to believe that there was absolutely NO WAY this young girl could have gotten her foot stuck while sitting in this ride bearing down hard to brace for a drop but suddenly someone comes on and posts how her daughters, boyfriends, aunts, second cousins friends, husbands, sister in law(not really but you catch the drift)was there and this girl stood up so suddenly everyone is like---Oh of course-she stood up and bore down even harder on the floor to brace for the drop-Now I can see how her foot got stuck===Well people if she wasn't able to get her foot stuck by sitting then theres no way that magically changed because she stood!!Sorry to all the conspiracy theorists out there!!!
I for one have no reason to doubt the OP-he is there with the kids and trust me if something wrong had been done one of those kids would have cracked by now!!
The floor doesn't work differently if it's stood on and as I posted on the closed thread there has to be a way to drain the water out of the logs besides the CMs grabbing a bucket so I think unfortunatly this poor kids foot found the space used drainage and became stuck and if so it is irrelevant if she stood or not--Plus as many pointed out they stop the ride if someone stands so if she stood then the ride would have been stopped and this incident would never have happened!
OP I hope you continue to try to make the best of what is left of your trip!! And give her loves and hugs from someone who knows that crap happens!!

 

[cinmell]

I agree with MosMom. People need to sit down and keep arms & legs in the vehicle and feet on the floor. I believe a 14 year old is old enough to understand these rules and realize that following these rules will help to keep them from getting hurt/injured.

Not being snarky but if we follow this logic further wouldnt the teenage pregnancy rate be lower? The rate of teen STD's??

No. I was just talking about following rules on a ride such as sit down and keep arms and legs in the vehicle. I said that a 14 year old is old enough to understand those particular rules for going on amusement park rides, I wasn't commenting on any other rules.

And for what it's worth, I do hope the OP's step daughter feels better and that this family is able to enjoy the rest of their vacation. And I agree, we will probably never know if it was truly a freak accident or due to the child's lack of good judgment.

 

[minnie61650]

I think it's funny that pretty much everyone who has posted to this thread found it so hard to believe that there was absolutely NO WAY this young girl could have gotten her foot stuck while sitting in this ride bearing down hard to brace for a drop but suddenly someone comes on and posts how her daughters, boyfriends, aunts, second cousins friends, husbands, sister in law(not really but you catch the drift)was there and this girl stood up so suddenly everyone is like---Oh of course-she stood up and bore down even harder on the floor to brace for the drop-Now I can see how her foot got stuck===Well people if she wasn't able to get her foot stuck by sitting then theres no way that magically changed because she stood!!Sorry to all the conspiracy theorists out there!!!
I for one have no reason to doubt the OP-he is there with the kids and trust me if something wrong had been done one of those kids would have cracked by now!!
The floor doesn't work differently if it's stood on and as I posted on the closed thread there has to be a way to drain the water out of the logs besides the CMs grabbing a bucket so I think unfortunatly this poor kids foot found the space used drainage and became stuck and if so it is irrelevant if she stood or not--Plus as many pointed out they stop the ride if someone stands so if she stood then the ride would have been stopped and this incident would never have happened!
OP I hope you continue to try to make the best of what is left of your trip!! And give her loves and hugs from someone who knows that crap happens!!

I totally see your point.
But there is another theory -- what if she had been standing than the jar of dip threw her off balance, she slid down so far that she was not sitting on the seat anymore but sliding half off with a force that jammed her foot into an area deeper than even a person who is 6 feet tall would normally be able to stretch their foot into. Remember she is 5 feet 10' inches tall.
Not saying this is what happened. I was not there and I hope she did not stand up and that is was just a freak accident.
Still ....It is a remote possibility it could have happened like that.
Accidents are more likely to happen on theme parks rides when the guests
forget to follow the rules.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

I think it's funny that pretty much everyone who has posted to this thread found it so hard to believe that there was absolutely NO WAY this young girl could have gotten her foot stuck while sitting in this ride bearing down hard to brace for a drop but suddenly someone comes on and posts how her daughters, boyfriends, aunts, second cousins friends, husbands, sister in law(not really but you catch the drift)was there and this girl stood up so suddenly everyone is like---Oh of course-she stood up and bore down even harder on the floor to brace for the drop-Now I can see how her foot got stuck===Well people if she wasn't able to get her foot stuck by sitting then theres no way that magically changed because she stood!!Sorry to all the conspiracy theorists out there!!!
I for one have no reason to doubt the OP-he is there with the kids and trust me if something wrong had been done one of those kids would have cracked by now!!
The floor doesn't work differently if it's stood on and as I posted on the closed thread there has to be a way to drain the water out of the logs besides the CMs grabbing a bucket so I think unfortunatly this poor kids foot found the space used drainage and became stuck and if so it is irrelevant if she stood or not--Plus as many pointed out they stop the ride if someone stands so if she stood then the ride would have been stopped and this incident would never have happened!
OP I hope you continue to try to make the best of what is left of your trip!! And give her loves and hugs from someone who knows that crap happens!!

It's because if anything is posted negatively about ones beloved Disney people jump to the defense.... How dare you say that about the most magical place on earth?

I mean check out the threads on the people dying on mission space. there were tons of posts asking "How could a mom let a 4 year old on that ride?" Blaming the mom but the height requirements allow him to go on. The parents of that boy requested the height requirements be changed and Disney has not done so. But blame the victim. This thread blames the parents for letting their teens alone in the park.

It is always the same thing. Somehow Disney could never be at fault. I love Disney heck we are going back this Sunday to our beloved SSR (Universal this time though) But as much as I do love them if I had to pick sides in these situations it is almost always going to be for the victim, the ones who suffered.

 

[TammiMcMan]

The floor doesn't work differently if it's stood on and as I posted on the closed thread there has to be a way to drain the water out of the logs besides the CMs grabbing a bucket so I think unfortunatly this poor kids foot found the space used drainage and became stuck and if so it is irrelevant if she stood or not--Plus as many pointed out they stop the ride if someone stands so if she stood then the ride would have been stopped and this incident would never have happened!

I'm not a physicist, but I think that the floor might react differently when someones foot is pressed down from a seated position, to if the foot slipped while standing and therefore had more force behind it. I don't know if it was in this thread or one of the others, but a DIS'er had reported that after getting off SM, they went to pick up their picture and was informed that they wouldn't be getting one, because someone seated behind them had stood up during the drop. They didn't mention that the ride had stopped, just that they weren't allowed a photo. I'm pretty sure the drops are freefall, so I can't see how they could have stopped the ride if she stood during a drop. Even if they were able to, I imagine that would be much more dangerous as the sudden stop would have you flipping right out of the boat.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

I totally see your point.
But there is another theory -- what if she had been standing than the jar of dip threw her off balance, she slid down so far that she was not sitting on the seat anymore but sliding half off with a force that jammed her foot into an area deeper than even a person who is 6 feet tall would normally be able to stretch their foot into. Remember she is 5 feet 10' inches tall.
Not saying this is what happened. I was not there and I hope she did not stand up and that is was just a freak accident.
Still ....It is a remote possibility it could have happened like that.
Accidents are more likely to happen on theme parks rides when the guests
forget to follow the rules.
Just my 2 cents.

Ok say by that same argument someone is one the ride with their younger child and there being no seat belts on the dip the child slides off the seat under the front of the log as you pointed out and becomes wedged same as the OPs daughter---Same scenario just a smaller person---What then??--I mean given the situation you pointed out it still is possible for this to happen!!
Not trying to be argumentative just asking if that were to happen,then who would be blamed? Me for not having a death grip on my child even though Disney felt the ride was safe enough to have no need for seatbelts? My child for sitting like they were supposed to be?
I mean regardless of how many different ways you look at it-this kid had her foot wedged into the ride---Say she did stand and somehow her foot was able to go where no foot had gone before that doesn't mean the same thing couldn't happen by someone who is sitting and their wet foot slipped on the floor and went further back than anyone thought it would.

 

[mickeyfan2]

It's because if anything is posted negatively about ones beloved Disney people jump to the defense.... How dare you say that about the most magical place on earth?

It is always the same thing. Somehow Disney could never be at fault. I love Disney heck we are going back this Sunday to our beloved SSR (Universal this time though) But as much as I do love them if I had to pick sides in these situations it is almost always going to be for the victim, the ones who suffered.

Sorry to break your bubble but that is NOT how I see it. I deal in FACTS and since this is all hearsay there are NO facts.

I know that Disney could be at fault, but that has not been proven. My only proof of a victim is a post on the DIS?

I put just as much value (or lack of if you like) in the report of the girl standing up as I do in the innocent teenager.

 

[rrkman]

I'm not sure if I've read every post but I will still add my $0.02. Standing or not standing...if there is an area in the bottom of a thrill ride car that you can get your foot stuck in, this is a flaw unless safety measures (harness, etc.) keep you from going anywhere near that area while the car is in motion. My understanding is that she was standing and fell into the car reaching an area that is normally out of reach....what if someone slides off the seat and their foot hits the same spot and gets stuck....wouldn't that be a problem. Her standing may have caused this but I still think that they need to look into why this happened and what can be done to minimize the chance of it happening again. This was an accident that may have been caused by goofing around....but it still exposed a possible safety risk. Certainly not putting blame on disney but I hope that they keep their rides as safe as possible.

 

[Mister Incredible]

It's because if anything is posted negatively about ones beloved Disney people jump to the defense.... How dare you say that about the most magical place on earth?

I mean check out the threads on the people dying on mission space. there were tons of posts asking "How could a mom let a 4 year old on that ride?" Blaming the mom but the height requirements allow him to go on. The parents of that boy requested the height requirements be changed and Disney has not done so. But blame the victim. This thread blames the parents for letting their teens alone in the park.

It is always the same thing. Somehow Disney could never be at fault. I love Disney heck we are going back this Sunday to our beloved SSR (Universal this time though) But as much as I do love them if I had to pick sides in these situations it is almost always going to be for the victim, the ones who suffered.

It sounds like you are just the opposite. It HAS to be Disney's fault. The height requirement had nothing to do with the 4 year old boy dying on Mission Space.

The funny part about these stories is they make the front page when something bad happens. However, when it is shown that it wasn't Disney's fault, it's buried on page 57 on the lower right corner where no one would ever see it.

We have heard from NO ONE who was there and knows what happened. The father-in-law will certainly take his daughter's word. She and the other kids if they did do something wrong probably don't want to get in more trouble after watching their dad go through all this trouble.

I said it before, Disney probably has the entire thing on video. If she did stand then they should get nothing. If she didn't, I'm sure they will make good.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

I'm not a physicist, but I think that the floor might react differently when someones foot is pressed down from a seated position, to if the foot slipped while standing and therefore had more force behind it. I don't know if it was in this thread or one of the others, but a DIS'er had reported that after getting off SM, they went to pick up their picture and was informed that they wouldn't be getting one, because someone seated behind them had stood up during the drop. They didn't mention that the ride had stopped, just that they weren't allowed a photo. I'm pretty sure the drops are freefall, so I can't see how they could have stopped the ride if she stood during a drop. Even if they were able to, I imagine that would be much more dangerous as the sudden stop would have you flipping right out of the boat.

I'm not a physicist either but if you think about it if you are standing and bracing and you slide your shins will bang against the underside of the top of the log and your feet would slide up under the front of the log thereby being able to catch something under neath---Same can happen by sitting and bearing down hard on a wet surface especially if you are going down a hill---I'm just saying it could've happened either way---And to say OK she had to have stood up for it to happen is just a way to be able to be facetious and condescending to someone who they know nothing about

 

[cleo]

Some of us are still waiting to see this bar that is supposed to be there but none of us SM vets have ever seen it. Could be there. Might not.

Proof would be good.

However, the girl got hurt (maybe she stood, maybe she didn't), she got medical attention (some from Disney paramedics, some additional attention because her parents chose to have a second opinion, if you will), she's fine other than having an owie foot. Sounds like everything's cleared up. The rest is speculation.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

I'm not sure if I've read every post but I will still add my $0.02. Standing or not standing...if there is an area in the bottom of a thrill ride car that you can get your foot stuck in, this is a flaw unless safety measures (harness, etc.) keep you from going anywhere near that area while the car is in motion. My understanding is that she was standing and fell into the car reaching an area that is normally out of reach....what if someone slides off the seat and their foot hits the same spot and gets stuck....wouldn't that be a problem. Her standing may have caused this but I still think that they need to look into why this happened and what can be done to minimize the chance of it happening again. This was an accident that may have been caused by goofing around....but it still exposed a possible safety risk. Certainly not putting blame on disney but I hope that they keep their rides as safe as possible.

Exactly what I was saying!

 

[MorganLeFey]

It's because if anything is posted negatively about ones beloved Disney people jump to the defense.... How dare you say that about the most magical place on earth?

I mean check out the threads on the people dying on mission space. there were tons of posts asking "How could a mom let a 4 year old on that ride?" Blaming the mom but the height requirements allow him to go on. The parents of that boy requested the height requirements be changed and Disney has not done so. But blame the victim. This thread blames the parents for letting their teens alone in the park.

It is always the same thing. Somehow Disney could never be at fault. I love Disney heck we are going back this Sunday to our beloved SSR (Universal this time though) But as much as I do love them if I had to pick sides in these situations it is almost always going to be for the victim, the ones who suffered.

I don't make blanket statements about who's side I'm on.


Disney has an obligation to maintain a reasonably safe environment. not a perfectly safe environment, but one where reasonably foreseeable accidents are prevented.

similarly, park patrons have an obligation to obey the rules, use common sense, protect themselves.

each accident is different. you need to examine all of the facts, and apportion blame among all the parties who contribute to the accident. and some times there's no one to blame.

Mission space is a prime example. the boy who died met all the safety requirements and neither he nor his parents did anything wrong. the Disney set up the ride with appropriate warnings so that people who have certain medical conditions were on notice they should not ride, but boy had an undetected medical condition. no one could have forseent eh boy would die (though now, with hindsight being 20/20, Disney has wisely decided to offer guests a tamer version of the ride. http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...03383708_RTRUKOC_0_US-LEISURE-DISNEY-RIDE.xml )

as fr this accident -- the stepfather claims the girl obeyed all the rules. another source says the girl stood up on the ride, and that's how she was injured. Disney's had numerous people stand up n the ride, and even climb out of the boats. so even if the girl did stand up, it's possible that Disney has some responsibility for the accident.

 

[MosMom]

We're getting to the dead horse stage here. I'm sure in a couple days we'll get reports from SM riders with pictures and all so we'll just wait and see.

 

[kbmoo]

We have heard from NO ONE who was there and knows what happened. The father-in-law will certainly take his daughter's word. She and the other kids if they did do something wrong probably don't want to get in more trouble after watching their dad go through all this trouble.

I said it before, Disney probably has the entire thing on video. If she did stand then they should get nothing. If she didn't, I'm sure they will make good.

I agree with you. The whole thiing is on tape. The girl and disney are both innocent intil proven guilty. I think it just sounds like a freak accident. Both sides should give a bit.

 

[minnie61650]

Ok say by that same argument someone is one the ride with their younger child and there being no seat belts on the dip the child slides off the seat under the front of the log as you pointed out and becomes wedged same as the OPs daughter---Same scenario just a smaller person---What then??--I mean given the situation you pointed out it still is possible for this to happen!!
Not trying to be argumentative just asking if that were to happen,then who would be blamed? Me for not having a death grip on my child even though Disney felt the ride was safe enough to have no need for seatbelts? My child for sitting like they were supposed to be?
I mean regardless of how many different ways you look at it-this kid had her foot wedged into the ride---Say she did stand and somehow her foot was able to go where no foot had gone before that doesn't mean the same thing couldn't happen by someone who is sitting and their wet foot slipped on the floor and went further back than anyone thought it would.

ITA
No argument from me.
I think it was freak accident.
Accidents happen.
It is the "design flaw" that I question.
Not the accident.

 

[rie'smom]

Kool-Aid anyone?

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

It sounds like you are just the opposite. It HAS to be Disney's fault. The height requirement had nothing to do with the 4 year old boy dying on Mission Space.

The funny part about these stories is they make the front page when something bad happens. However, when it is shown that it wasn't Disney's fault, it's buried on page 57 on the lower right corner where no one would ever see it.

We have heard from NO ONE who was there and knows what happened. The father-in-law will certainly take his daughter's word. She and the other kids if they did do something wrong probably don't want to get in more trouble after watching their dad go through all this trouble.

I said it before, Disney probably has the entire thing on video. If she did stand then they should get nothing. If she didn't, I'm sure they will make good.

No I didn't say it HAS to be Disney's fault but there is a constant trend of people blaming the victim no matter what the circumstances. And are you sure the height requirement had nothing to do with it? I bet the boys parents would know more than you on that subject. They wouldn't just ask for no reason would they?

And about it being a positive post being buried it is a long know fact that something bad about an experience will travel farther down the word of mouth train then something good. It is just part of the way people react. Good experiences are expected at WDW when something from the norm happens it is more interesting. Would a post from the OP saying "My dd went down SM for the first time and had a blast" get as much response as this issue did? Of course not it is expected. So good business sense would to make sure the guests feels like they are being taken care of in situations like this. They would then pass on that positive experience even though she was injured. Obviously this hasn't happened for the father to come to this board and ask for advice in where he felt Disney did nothing.