NEW Hong Kong Disneyland pics

[SpaceMountain_uk]

Hi everyone

I found a site with all the latest construction pics of the HK project. Although the park is lacking in the rides department i have to say the site does look amazing and it looks as if they do have plenty of land to expand, and its also quite easy to see where a Frontierland may be built one day. also notice in picture 17 the huge space between where main st ends and the castle is


got this off another msg board and i think it sums up the project well, although i would have prefered afew more rides to be open on opening day

"I think it is a good strategy. Provided they add the attractions later.

Image Eurodisney opening a beautiful park with a handful spectacular attractions. It would have cost less, they would have learned the lessons they have learned now at lesser costs. They could have added a new e-ticket ride every year. Not just new shows etc. but every year a new great attraction in the park. That would help visitors coming back.

If they started off with only three hotels (Disneyland, Séquoia Logde and Santa Fe for example) and added the other three hotels later as the park and attendance grew it would have saved tons of money.

EuroDisney would have been in much better shape today if they followed this strategy. After ten years adding a new great ride to Disneyland every year they would launch a new park. Instead of saying ‘here is the new park, now we are out of money so you have to like it as it is’, it would have been ‘here is the new park, now this park will have a new great ride every year for the next ten years.’ It would have been a lot more fun to go back to Disneyland every year.

I think they have learned a lesson in Europe and are on the right track in Hong Kong. The only thing that feels stupid is the lack of Frontierland. But hey, who says part of adventureland will not be colonized by cowboys in the future?"


here it is

http://disneytheque.free.fr/hong kong disneyland/mars2004/

 

[HauntedMansionFan]

Those are great!

 

[Schmeck]

Thanks for the link - incredible photos!

I'd be a bit concerned about being so close to the ocean though - wouldn't it be possible for a tsunami to do a bit of damage? Or is it far enough in the harbor that it's a sheltered spot?

 

[wtg2000]

I've never understood the problem with Disneyland Paris. I first visited in October 1997 and couldn't get a room on a Monday night - in off-season. They were full. And the park was busy and the Disney Village restaurants were jammed - people didn't all head back to Paris as reported in the press. Attendance numbers have been very good - in the 12-13 million range for some years. I don't understand why it doesn't make money.

I hope HK is not a repeat of the poor financial performance.


I also see that they have plans for a second gate, and that a Hollywood themed hotel is part of phase one - meaning that the second gate will probably be a Studio. I think this has proven to be their weakest concept in theme parks judging from MGM and Walt Disney Studios Paris. I hope they build something else.

 

[Another Voice]

Hmmm…

The "build the park, add the attractions later" strategy has worked wonders at California Adventure and Disney Studios Paris.

I'm sure that the same strategy will produce the same stunning financial results as those two examples.


P.S. The problem with Euro Disney was that Eisner insisted it was going to be a year-round, full service resort like Walt Disney World. Instead, the place is a tourist desitnation like Disneyland. Eisner borrowed too mcuh money and built too many hotel rooms. Had EDL opened with the park and two hotels, it would have been much better off.

The concern most have for Hong Kong is it's size. The long running joke at WDI is HKDL will be the first theme park with a drive-through window. While a small park might be able to leech off a nearby larger property (like Disney/MGM at WDW), small parks don't draw a lot of people when they stand alone.

 

[SpaceMountain_uk]

The "build the park, add the attractions later" strategy has worked wonders at California Adventure and Disney Studios Paris.

that is very true but HKDL will have what DCA and especially WDS dont have and that is a truely themed environment with no visual intrusions from the outside world.

also it is alot easier to add rides into a very detailed environmment than to add details to an already lacking environment (WDS). also i think that HK DL does have realistic attendance figures, between 6 and 7 milions each year

 

[daannzzz]

Look at the Adventureland, frontierland side of tha park. That appears awefully small to me.
http://disneytheque.free.fr/hong kong disneyland/mars2004/pages/fantasyland03.htm
The whole park seems to be a bit small except for that giant City Hall building. I guess they want to be prepared to have room for all the people with complaints.

 

[wtg2000]

I'm just afraid that people in Shanghai who have heard for years about the world famous Disney parks will come and say, "this is it? This is all there is?" Of course, judgement should be reserved until the park opens, but I'm wondering how familiar they are with the famous attractions like Pirates and Haunted Mansion and if they will be disappointed if they are not there.

 

[mitros]

Maybe at some point down the road, China will do what it keeps threatening and take Hong Kong by force. Now wouldn't THAT be an interesting turn of events for the Walt Disney Co. and it's glorious dictator, er, ruler, uh, leader......... Oh that's right, he is unfortunatley still CEO!

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Originally posted by mitros
Maybe at some point down the road, China will do what it keeps threatening and take Hong Kong by force.

Please explain what you mean by "China will do what it keeps threatening and take Hong Kong by force." I've never read about such threats.

Hong Kong is already part of China. Britain turned over Hong Kong to China on July 1, 1997. Hong Kong has a degree of autonomy from mainland China under the principle of "One Country, Two Systems," but it's one country.

 

[SpaceMountain_uk]

it does look small on the Frontierland/Adventureland side but notice how the railway embankment curves inward there is alot of land outside the railway.my guess is frontierland will open there with the railway possibly being the 'gateway' to this new land?

 

[SpaceMountain_uk]

more pics here

http://forum.aceboard.net/p-931-5737-53307-0.htm

really good aerial shot of Space Mountain with no roof showing the whole track layout.Also nice shot of the castle from the draw-bridge

 

[mitros]

You must not read the same papers that I do Horace, this has been going on for years. I"ll look one up and post it here. I would not want you to be miss informed

 

[Mooobooks]

I don't think any of you have been to Shanghai. I have.
It's a backward third-world city that's bleak and gray, and none of the people have a pot to piss in. The idea that people who live in China anywhere outside Hong Kong can afford to support theme parks is absurd. The only people who could possibly afford the price of a ticket and a hotel, or SIMPLY a meal, are tourists from outside China. There are simply not enough people in China who make any kind of decent wage to support a theme park.

 

[wtg2000]

I don't think any of you have been to Shanghai. I have.

How long ago? This is contrary to things that I've heard, that there's a burgeoning middle-class in China - perhaps more than 100 million. To say that "none of the people" belays the very modern skyline shown in various media.

I visited parts of China in 1998 (not Shanghai) and I certainly saw a degree of affluence among portions of the population.

 

[KNWVIKING]

***"The "build the park, add the attractions later" strategy has worked wonders at California Adventure and Disney Studios Paris."***

Didn't DL open in '55 with only 20 attractions ?

Great pic's. Anybody know how many acres HKDL encompasses ?

 

[KNWVIKING]

....***"You must not read the same papers that I do Horace, this has been going on for years. I"ll look one up and post it here. I would not want you to be miss informed"***

China has repeatedly threatened force to retake Taiwan. I don't know of any problems with HK.

 

[wtg2000]

Will HKDL have 20 attractions when it opens? Has anyone seen an attraction list? And the Guest Information Board doesn't count.

 

[Douglas Dubh]

There are simply not enough people in China who make any kind of decent wage to support a theme park.

I'm not so sure about that. Remember, there are about 1 billion Chinese. If only 1% can afford a trip to HKDL each year, that's 10 million visitors a year. Plus there are lots of potential visitors from South Korea, Singapore & Malayasia, the Phillipines, and Australia & New Zealand, for whom it will be the closest Disney Park.

 

[SpaceMountain_uk]

Here is a site map to give u an idea of the size of the site.

http://webcot.free.fr/hkdl/hkdl-master-plan.jpg

the site for the 2nd park is currently under water. the land will be reclaimed when its needed. One thing that i noticed is there seems to be no Disney Village or Downtown Disney, but i read that Main St will stay open once the park has closed for shopping and dining