New DL hotel - based on history, when will DVC units be announced/for sale?

[SarahInMN]

I know it’s just a rumor but the new DL hotel supposedly will have 125 DVC rooms. Construction should start later this year and finish 2021.

It’s been near impossible for us to find VGC on resale so we would snatch these up direct from Disney.

Does anyone have a guess (based on recently built DVC’s) when these would be available for purchase?

 

[tjkraz]

DVC only opens a resort every 2-3 years so it's not like there is any worthwhile pattern established.

Copper Creek began selling to existing members on March 8, 2017 and non-members on April 5. The resort opened to guests on July 17.

 

[limace]

My understanding from folks more familiar with zoning in Disneyland is that they are not allowed to add DVC rooms to this hotel-due to the restrictions on the tax breaks they are receiving. There’s speculation they may add to DLH, which we would love.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

It certainly won't be 125 units if DVC is involved, which makes the whole rumor shaky. Anaheim zoning code would have to be changed. That would be major and not under any radar. Last time such a change was proposed, it was voted down.

Disney is only permitted 150 timeshare units total in that zoning area. They can add a max of 79 (they are currently considered to have 71 as Anaheim counts units), and require a conditional use permit that Anaheim is unlikely to grant in the new development. None of the prerequisite filings for the permits have occurred - to develop units as timeshare, the builder has to file typical floor plans for each unit, a construction phasing plan, management stuff, some general boilerplate stuff about the timeshare operation, a parking study, and how they plan to collect the transient occupancy tax. It's pretty substantive. And the new build is using a special tax incentive, which complicates things in terms of filings and approvals. Disney has to have permission from the city to do DVC units, and the city may not want to bless what amounts to a double-dip (reduction of the transient tax + phat point sales profits).

If they were to add the 79 units allowed within code, having procured permits to do so, they will sell in a week. Even at a high points per night, that's less than 2 million points.

 

[SarahInMN]

I hadn't even thought about or realized the zoning issue - reading the above certainly makes it less likely. Which is a huge bummer.

Agree - on if there are units, they'll sell quickly which is why I was hoping to have some sort of time frame on my radar but I guess it will be back to trolling the internet for rumors!

 

[karrit2000]

When they opened the Grand Californian Hotel the DVC units were in the plans. It took them many years before they actually announced them. Don't hold your breath. I lived in NY at the time they actually started to sell them. They weren't licensed to sell in NY at the beginning so I had to wait until they received the appropriate licensing before I could buy or I would have had to fly out there in order to purchase. My guide knew for years that I was waiting to purchase there. She almost got me to add on at AK but in the end I held out for California to be available.