New Disney Ships: News, Rumors, Speculation.....and Names!

[Mommb]

I’m a CC member but didn’t get the email. Are you based in the U.S.? Can you let me know what the booking date will be for Platinum? We get off the Dream on Dec 2 and hit platinum on that sailing. I think it should update within 24 hours and I want to book ASAP.

I am in the US. DCL emails are unpredicatable -- I'm not sure how they decide who gets which mailings.
I also received an email from my travel agent, but that's because I have an open placeholder reservation. I'm not interested in the Adventure (well, I am, but I'm not willing to fly to Singapore in the near future) but it was good to see that placeholders can be applied to it.

Here are the dates for Adventure booking:
Pearl members can book starting December 3 at 7:00 p.m. EST.
Platinum members can book starting December 4 at 7:00 p.m. EST.
Gold members can book starting December 5 at 7:00 p.m. EST.
Silver members can book starting December 8 at 7:00 p.m. EST.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

Updated rendering of the Disney Adventure with the original rendering of the Global Dream:

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Scott Gustin

Wow, I wouldn't have thought they had the same bones at first glance. Looks like Disney also added a bunch of OV rooms to help match the older ships

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I was planning on Southeast Asia for our 2026 international vacation anyway, so we might go check out the new ship if we can fit it in the itinerary. If it does go to nowhere then might just do the 3 night

 

[Flossbolna]

Wow, I wouldn't have thought they had the same bones at first glance. Looks like Disney also added a bunch of OV rooms to help match the older ships

If you zoom in, you will see that they are white wall verandas. Interesting choice as those will have to be less expensive than the glass verandas.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

If you zoom in, you will see that they are white wall verandas. Interesting choice as those will have to be less expensive than the glass verandas.

OIC! And it really is purely aesthetics so it fits in better with the rest of the ships. Not that the Adventure is going to be anywhere near the older ships!

Anyway, I'm down for saving money on the room with this ship. There's so much to see on the ship in just 3-4 days anyway

 

[DisneyPrince22]

Did I miss it or there is no adults exclusive pool area ? Seems like what should have been Quiet Cove have been roped behind concierge instead. And whilst the first Disney roller coaster at sea is exciting, what happened to the water coasters ? You would think on a ship this big they could have at least fit some adult waterslides too (not just kiddie ones)? And there seems to be no mention of fireworks....

I've waited many years for a Mulan broadway show given it has IMO the best set of songs on any Disney movie, and this ship based in Singapore where they have ample access to an Asian cast would be the best chance of one. Yet not only is there no Mulan show, she is not even specifically featured on the Adventure. Is there any chance of a third broadway show they haven't announced?

Or at least spare Mulan an eatery? It's surprising that despite the large amounts of Chinese & SEA decendants in Singapore, there are no restaurants/lounges dedicated to Chinese or South East Asian cuisine (e.g. Malay, Vienamese or Thai, which could easily have been Raya themed, another missed opportunity). Instead we have Moana again for the quick-service restaurant, when she already has a whole themed area.

Very excited for a WALL-E show and Luca themed areas finally though.

While we may view that character as fitting, we have to remember that these characters are viewed different in other parts of the world. If I remember correctly, China didn’t view the character of Mulan favorably and I’m not surprised there isn’t much mention of her.

 

[asgur5]

Japan's ship isn't sailing till 2029 though, so for the majority of the 5 year exclusive period with Singapore, Japan is still part of their potential market. I was on the Disney Wish recently and there were surpringly quite an amount of Japanese on it, if they are willing to travel all the way to US, they certainly will for Singapore since it is so much closer. A few years ago when I went to HK Disneyland, half of the tourists were Japanese, so clearly having their own Disneyland doesn't stop them going to another Disney property.

I am very much interested if Disney would adjust the cruise prices according to local prices. I sure hope so.

When Shanghai and HK Disneyland opened, ticket prices were higher than local prices but still much lower than US prices (there was no way locals will pay for US prices). I wonder if the same will apply for the Disney Adventure.

I think those japanese tourists are going there for wdw and then adding a cruise on to their trip. I highly doubt the cruise is the reason for travelling that far.

 

[Dreams&wishes]

Do we know the sale dates for the Adventure yet?

 

[scroogie]

Do we know the sale dates for the Adventure yet?

Dec 4: Pearl
Dec 5: Platinum
Dec 6: Gold
Dec 9: Silver, DVC
Dec 10: General public

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

If you zoom in, you will see that they are white wall verandas. Interesting choice as those will have to be less expensive than the glass verandas.

Do we think that the round circle windows are in the original design are actual oceanviews or perhaps navigator verandas?

 

[European]

While we may view that character as fitting, we have to remember that these characters are viewed different in other parts of the world. If I remember correctly, China didn’t view the character of Mulan favorably and I’m not surprised there isn’t much mention of her.

Don’t they have more Mulan theming in Shanghai Disneyland compared to the other parks? At least that’s what I thought, haven’t been there yet.

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

Don’t they have more Mulan theming in Shanghai Disneyland compared to the other parks? At least that’s what I thought, haven’t been there yet.

There isn’t a ton but I would say yes, more compared to other parks. She had an impressive float in their parade and she is one of many princesses featured in the fairytale boat ride (sort of their equivalent of the jungle cruise but instead of animals different Disney movies are represented).

 

[kuwithn]

There isn’t a ton but I would say yes, more compared to other parks. She had an impressive float in their parade and she is one of many princesses featured in the fairytale boat ride (sort of their equivalent of the jungle cruise but instead of animals different Disney movies are represented).

And Mulan sings reflection in Chinese in the Mickey and Wonderous Book show at Shanghai.

 

[mk2.0]

In the same distance from NY to LA (approx 3000 miles), there are over three and a half BILLION people in the circumference from Singapore (Singapore to Beijing/New Dehli/Sydney). I've got a funny feeling they won't have too many empty ships. Perhaps. Just a hunch.

Good point. The Caribbean market doesn't get guests from just Florida. People fly from all across the states, Canada, S American, Europe, etc. Singapore is already a top 20 worldwide port, and I'm guessing they are betting on growing that business.

 

[scroogie]

Singapore is already a top 20 worldwide port, and I'm guessing they are betting on growing that business.

Exactly. It seems to me that some people simply want this enterprise to fail so that Disney relocates the ship somewhere more "convenient".

 

[peder]

Exactly. It seems to me that some people simply want this enterprise to fail so that Disney relocates the ship somewhere more "convenient".

Oh nonsense, the only issue at all is that it's a cruise to nowhere. Indefinitely. And no longer cruise offerings, either. It would have been trivial for Disney to offer to the occasional longer cruise that actually makes some port stops. Look at how Royal structured the Anthem of the Seas itineraries once it starts homeporting out of Singapore:



Mostly 3- and 4-night sailings but with 5-nighters (and longer) sprinkled in. Why does Disney think their product is so unique that they couldn't possibly follow any typical cruise conventions?

 

[jwalk03]

Oh nonsense, the only issue at all is that it's a cruise to nowhere. Indefinitely. And no longer cruise offerings, either. It would have been trivial for Disney to offer to the occasional longer cruise that actually makes some port stops. Look at how Royal structured the Anthem of the Seas itineraries once it starts homeporting out of Singapore:

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Mostly 3- and 4-night sailings but with 5-nighters (and longer) sprinkled in. Why does Disney think their product is so unique that they couldn't possibly follow any typical cruise conventions?

Simply sprinkling in the occasional longer cruise does not make any financial sense. Then you have to invest in more infrastructure that is rarely used. Negotiating for port space, finding providers for shore excursions, adding a shore excursions desk, IT building, etc, etc. That's a lot of extra work and cost so that you can market an occasional cruise that is longer and would make people that are not the target customers for this product happy. Those longer cruises would certainly make less money than the typical 3 and 4 day offerings they are planning. The lost opportunity cost would be huge in addition to the increases in actual cost I mentioned.

As to your last question- Why does Disney think their product is so unique?
Because they have proven for years that it is. It seems the prices just keep increasing yet the ships just keep selling. No other mass market cruise lines get the prices Disney gets. The same way no other theme parks get the prices that Disney gets either, yet the Magic Kingdom is ALWAYS that highest attendance park in the world.

 

[crazy4wdw]

Disney Treasure delivered to DCL in Eemshaven, Netherlands:

https://disneyparksblog.com/dcl/dis...newest-disney-cruise-line-ship-debuting-2024/

 

[peder]

As to your last question- Why does Disney think their product is so unique?
Because they have proven for years that it is.

Strongly disagree. Once they launch all these ships and their marginal customer becomes more price sensitive and less brand loyal to Disney, there’s simply no way this charade can continue.

The Adventure will do fine, but this is not just some dinner cruise. It will be *weird* to see islands that you can never dock at. Will be a one and done and they will quickly exhaust mega fans.

Also your point about port infrastructure is completely off base IMO. There are a million cruise companies that seem to have no trouble figuring out ports all over the world. And surely Disney has already done this work for plans for the Wonder in case they ever pivoted away from Australia.

 

[Lucien Franciosa]

Strongly disagree. Once they launch all these ships and their marginal customer becomes more price sensitive and less brand loyal to Disney, there’s simply no way this charade can continue.

Irrelevant. In Singapore for the next few years there will be just one ship, a big ship, but just one. With no other Disney experience nearby, let alone Disney cruise ships. The target audience is not you and I with all these choices, but people near Singapore with just one new choice.

The Adventure will do fine, but this is not just some dinner cruise. It will be *weird* to see islands that you can never dock at. Will be a one and done and they will quickly exhaust mega fans

How many other islands do you see on a Caribbean cruise that you don’t stop at? They will be seeing a wide open ocean. Not weird for a boat at sea. Nor will this be a one and done for the local inhabitants but will become the standard for exotic kid birthday parties etc. it’s a culture of go big or stay home. This is big.

Also your point about port infrastructure is completely off base IMO. There are a million cruise companies that seem to have no trouble figuring out ports all over the world. And surely Disney has already done this work for plans for the Wonder in case they ever pivoted away from Australia.

Hyperbole. They are currently 5 cruise lines, not millions, out of Singapore including the ‘biggee’ National Geographic. It’s not that Disney hasn’t figured out how, it’s they have figured out for their product, which is unique, profits are optimized by short cruises in this new market so they agreed to a contract, legally binding, with the Singapore tourism board.

It may not be what foreigners like you and I want, but Disney is betting it’s what the local Singapore market will buy. You can bet against Disney but I’m not.