New DIS Board policy in effect

[Halbleib1]

I'm not sure the censorship thing applies in this situation.

You are free to disagree with anything said on this forum or any other forum and as long as you follow guidelines, no one will discourage you.

You are also free to pour your heart, soul and fortune into starting any website that you wish to start. This website can contain anything you want it to contain. You might decide to be the only voice on your website and not let there be any dissenting opinion, Again...this isnt censorship or taking away someones free speech. You are free to say whatever you want on YOUR website.

A similar example would be a newspaper. You may vehemently disagree with something written in a newspaper, That doesnt mean that the newspaper has any obligation to print your disagreement and again, this isnt censorship. You are free to start your own newspaper.

The sponsors of this website are all related to Disney travel (except for the Google ads). I'm fairly certain that none of them agreed to advertise on these forums because of the political or religious debates. As I'm sure you know...there are no religions or political parties paying to advertise on this site.

As for the podcast...again....you have been given a forum to talk about what is said on the podcast. You are invited to come here free of charge and express your opinion, whether you agree or disagree, as long as you do it within the guidelines of of this webiste. If you feel the need or desire to saythings outside of the guidelines of this website, you are free to start your own. This is the very nature of free speech and the lack of censorship.

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.

I did not reply to this thread to start an argument. Something about this just rubbed me the wrong way and I felt the need to state my opinion. I hardly ever look at the community board where I understand most of these topics were discussed. And as a rule I do not discuss these topics in my real life any more than I do on the internet. Because there is no winner in either topic. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to their opinion. As I stated on that board I can understand the problems that the mods had and why they did it. I just think it is going to be a hard rule to enforce as something so simple can easily turn into either issue without meaning to. If you look at my previous posts on any of the boards I think you will find that for the most part I try to stay away from debates. But I am not perfect and I have replied to a few threads that I should have stayed away from. But for some unknown reason felt compelled to respond to at the time. Pretty much I tend to stick to just reading the boards and only responding to specific questions about Disney that I have accurate information to share. Which is what I came to these boards for to begin with. These boards are a great wealth of information about all things Disney and for that I am very grateful. Without these boards I would not have been able to plan our trips to Disney as well as I was able to.

That being said I am not going to withhold my opinion and agree with someone just because I like them.

 

[Halbleib1]

Pete, know that we love you, your boards, and all of your hard work. It's yours and we respect it. Please don't let any disrespectful people keep you from knowing that you are doing a good thing here with these boards. You have made a lot of people happy and created a lot of different freindships with the boards. You have made the world a better place for us. Thank you. You have every right to do what you are doing. You are keeping peace. "Blessed are the peacemakers." That is true.
Everyone who wants to discuss politics and religion, "ga head" and do so. On a political or religious board. This board is for Disney lovers and friendly people made by Disney lovers and friendly people. Pete isn't keeping you from spouting your views. He is, however keeping you from doing it here, where the rest of us don't want to hear it. He is doing it for us....the real reason these boards are here.

I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

 

[Tonya2426]

Way back when Bawb used to moderate he had 2 styles. If he thought someone needed talking too he would put on his Sheriff Wilderness persona and lecture them... with a lot of pardners and ya'all sprinkeled in.
If he really didn't like what you posted he was the KING of middle of the night post removal. He would literaly wait untill late at night/early in the morning and just delete the thread without a word of explanation.

It always cracked me up

That made me laugh!! I can just see Bawb sitting at the computer in the middle of the night deleting threads. I miss Bob!!!

 

[Vijoge]

Pumpkin pie, Angel food cake, Toll House cookies, vanilla ice cream, Boursin cheese.

 

[DisneyKevin]

That being said I am not going to withhold my opinion and agree with someone just because I like them.

I dont believe anyone here would ever expect that of anyone. As I have stated many times...you are free to disagree with anything anyone says as long as you do it respectfully and within the DIS guidelines.

I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

As I explained in my previous post....

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.

 

[firsttimemom]

Ok- here's a new twist on the cake/pie debate. We're redoing our kitchen and need a new range. Gas or electric- which results in the best baked goods?

 

[ADP]

Ok- here's a new twist on the cake/pie debate. We're redoing our kitchen and need a new range. Gas or electric- which results in the best baked goods?

I've always been told gas works better for baking and cooking in general.

 

[challer]

Hmmm... no religion or politics... let's give this a test to see if they're going through with it...

Happy Passover to the Republican party!

 

[FireDancer]

I've always heard that a dual fuel range is best. Gas for the cooktop and electric for the oven. I believe it has to do with the dryer electric heat. I don't know but it is what Alton Brown suggests so that is good enough for me.

 

[knewton64]

This rule should be followed in ALL social forums for the most part. It's been proven time and time again that while a lot of people can maintain civility in such discussions, there are always a chosen few that cannot behave appropriately.

Although I mostly lurk, on this particular section of the boards, I am proud to see that the inhabitants are very civil in all discussions, and people can get there food preferences across with little chance of a rebellious uprising.

However, I must say that brownies trump all! You don't need a utensil to eat it, so it wins! If any of you disagree with this rock solid assessment, you just don't know what you are talking about.

....that's M&M (plain) covered brownies!!!

 

[challer]

Without politics and religion, what will we talk about all the time - eye surgery?


Wait a minute...

 

[WebmasterPete]

I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

You mean like when I imposed this rule on myself and the team on the show over a year ago?

 

[Madi100]

You know sometimes we make new rules for our kids and they whine and complain and it really doesn't matter, because in the end, we are the parents and we still win. Sometimes when parents are making these rules, there is company. The company will either walk away and think, "Hmm, what well behaved children." OR, "Wow, look at those brats."

I'm still trying to figure out why my kids argue with me. I'm not going to give in and allow them to eat BOTH cake and pie for a snack. If they keep arguing, they'll get NOTHING.

 

[Halbleib1]

You mean like when I imposed this rule on myself and the team on the show over a year ago?

No disrespect but you asked me a direct question and I feel the need to give you an honest answer.

Sorry I must have missed that podcast. I do not always get the chance to listen every week and am behind a bit on the podcasts. I do realize that no one has promoted any particular group or party. I was not trying to insinuate that at all. I have just begun listening consistantly again. What I was refering to was the tourism/tax dollar debate/rant and what they should be using that money for. If it involves government in any way it can be construed as political can it not? By the way I agree with you 100% on that issue. Even some of Disney's decisions can be taken politically or turn into it real easy. I think that is where some of the concern is coming from about enforcement of this new rule.

As I said I have no problem following the new rules and will do so by staying away from the debatable/controversial threads as I have been doing for the most part anyway as in the end it is usually pointless bickering anyway.

 

[Tonya2426]

Don't hate me but I am going to be controversial now:


Ice Cream


I know t's not a baked good (and don't get me wrong, I love pie, cake, and cookies) but ice cream is my favorite!! It has gotten me through some tough times and I am not going to turn my back on it now.

 

[Matt@WDWR]

I have been an admin for a pretty popular movie website since 2002. We basically banned political talk six years ago because the amount of venom in the threads was starting to seep over into other threads. The site never suffered from it. We did make a concession during the last Presidential election and created a politics forum that people had to request membership into. The rules were pretty strict. If you launched into a personal attack you were gone. It did work okay but I am still against political discussion on the boards because political discussion is the almost complete opposite of community building.

Regardless, Pete and Kevin and the rest are being pretty lenient. I would have just posted the policy change and then locked the thread. Whining gets on my last nerve haha and it won't sway my opinion.

 

[Halbleib1]

I dont believe anyone here would ever expect that of anyone. As I have stated many times...you are free to disagree with anything anyone says as long as you do it respectfully and within the DIS guidelines.

Halbleib1:I do not believe I was breaking dis guidelines with that post but if I was than I am sorry as I was not aware of it nor was I meaning to. Nor was I trying to be disrespectful. I was just stating my opinion and trying to explain where I was coming from as you invited me to do. It is not personal we just have different opinions on the subject. Agree to disagree on this one?
As I explained in my previous post....

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.

As I have said in my previous posts I am willing to follow the rules as I have always tried to do in the past. But it does not mean that I have to agree with them. But I will express my disagreement elsewhere in respect to the rules.

 

[ckdsnynt]

That's good. Those pol 'bates on the community board were brutal! Not as brutal as pie vs. cake though. Brownies kick pies butt everytime but cake trumps brownies. Everybody knows that.

Cake over pie? Obviously spoken by someone that has never eaten my fresh apple pie hot out of the oven or my extra special peach cobbler made from fresh peaches with my very own extra special secret ingredient.
But to each his own

P.S. Sorry. It's not polite to brag on yourself. I know better. But they really are good. Wish I had some now. With ice cream. Or without.

 

[ckdsnynt]

Don't hate me but I am going to be controversial now:


Ice Cream


I know t's not a baked good (and don't get me wrong, I love pie, cake, and cookies) but ice cream is my favorite!! It has gotten me through some tough times and I am not going to turn my back on it now.

Are we talking home made or storebought? Makes a difference ya know!

 

[aspen37]

Way back when Bawb used to moderate he had 2 styles. If he thought someone needed talking too he would put on his Sheriff Wilderness persona and lecture them... with a lot of pardners and ya'all sprinkeled in.
If he really didn't like what you posted he was the KING of middle of the night post removal. He would literaly wait untill late at night/early in the morning and just delete the thread without a word of explanation.

It always cracked me up

I can see Bob doing that.

You know sometimes we make new rules for our kids and they whine and complain and it really doesn't matter, because in the end, we are the parents and we still win. Sometimes when parents are making these rules, there is company. The company will either walk away and think, "Hmm, what well behaved children." OR, "Wow, look at those brats."

I'm still trying to figure out why my kids argue with me. I'm not going to give in and allow them to eat BOTH cake and pie for a snack. If they keep arguing, they'll get NOTHING.

No disrespect but you asked me a direct question and I feel the need to give you an honest answer.

Sorry I must have missed that podcast. I do not always get the chance to listen every week and am behind a bit on the podcasts. I do realize that no one has promoted any particular group or party. I was not trying to insinuate that at all. I have just begun listening consistantly again. What I was refering to was the tourism/tax dollar debate/rant and what they should be using that money for. If it involves government in any way it can be construed as political can it not? By the way I agree with you 100% on that issue. Even some of Disney's decisions can be taken politically or turn into it real easy. I think that is where some of the concern is coming from about enforcement of this new rule.

As I said I have no problem following the new rules and will do so by staying away from the debatable/controversial threads as I have been doing for the most part anyway as in the end it is usually pointless bickering anyway.

There was thread and someone asked Pete this question. The reason is because the tax dollars were for tourism. The podcast is about WDW and Universal. That is tourism.