New DIS Board policy in effect

[Cruz Family]

"Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race." - Charles Bradlaugh

"Debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust and wide-open and that...may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." - William Brennan, New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage." - Winston Churchill


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

"One man's vulgarity is another's lyric." - John Marshall Harlan, Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)


"Civil government cannot let any group ride roughshod over others simply because their consciences tell them to do so." - Robert H. Jackson

"Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance." - Lyndon Baines Johnson, February 11, 1964

"It is impossible for ideas to compete in the marketplace if no forum for their presentation is provided or available." - Thomas Mann


"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." - Wiliam O. Douglas, The One Un-American Act, A Speech to the Author's Guild Council in New York (1951)

"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the **** and the bigot." - Eugene O'Neill

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist." - Salman Rushdie

"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime..." - Potter Stewart, Ginzberg v. United States, 383 U.S. 463 (1966)

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain

Are you kidding me????

Thank you Rev. Sharpton for today's lesson in DIS civil rights!

 

[WebmasterPete]

"Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race." - Charles Bradlaugh

"Debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust and wide-open and that...may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." - William Brennan, New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage." - Winston Churchill


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

"One man's vulgarity is another's lyric." - John Marshall Harlan, Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)


"Civil government cannot let any group ride roughshod over others simply because their consciences tell them to do so." - Robert H. Jackson

"Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance." - Lyndon Baines Johnson, February 11, 1964

"It is impossible for ideas to compete in the marketplace if no forum for their presentation is provided or available." - Thomas Mann


"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." - Wiliam O. Douglas, The One Un-American Act, A Speech to the Author's Guild Council in New York (1951)

"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the **** and the bigot." - Eugene O'Neill

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist." - Salman Rushdie

"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime..." - Potter Stewart, Ginzberg v. United States, 383 U.S. 463 (1966)

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

 

[Matt@WDWR]

I believe in the trades, they call that last post being "Petewernered" LOL


you hit the nail on the head!

 

[angelmav]

Are you kidding me????

Thank you Rev. Sharpton for today's lesson in DIS civil rights!

Why must you interject religion into this discusion?

Hey the Dis can do whatever it likes.

The fact that so many were ready to sign on and begin the discussion of Cakes vs Pie's while their ability to believe in either cake or pie and express so freely has been curtailed here is an argument that apparently no one has the stomach for any longer.

I just think that it speaks poorly on the dis to do this, but thats my opinion, thank you Kevin for the forum provided to express it.

While I want to clarify that it is not my belief, but strong opinion, I prefer Pie. Cherry. Tart cherry.

 

[Cruz Family]

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

Way to go Pete!!!

 

[Bornteach]

I vote for pie.....it's like a religious experience for me.

<oh shoot - I just broke both new rules>

OMG my sides hurt!!

How does that old saying go? I don't drink, don't smoke and don't swear...

****, I left my cigs at the bar!

 

[QuirkyButterfly]

Thanks for the new policy, I am all for it.

By the way... Mmmmmmm Pie.

 

[angelmav]

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

Actually I rarely participated in either here. There are 'other' more appropriate forums for that. If you think the CB gets crazed, you should see what is posted there!

My point is not that there is any protected right to pop off on whatever topic someone so chooses to here, but that this limitation as is now imposed, is a sad step for the dis. Obviously I am not in the inner circle to see how bad that it may have been. Just a sad, sad step, one that you feel appropriate which is your right.

It does however lighten my heart and give me a newfound hope to see that we have Pie as a common ground. May this be a bridge to many future cakeless desserts.

 

[FireDancer]

Pete, I fully support your decision in this matter. There are boards that got nasty on all sides of both topics.

 

[safetymom]

Yum, yum key lime pie.

 

[*NikkiBell*]

So, I am working late tonight and just read this entire post. I only have one thing to say...

Schoolbread is oh so much better than any cookie or pie you may banter over. However, black forest cake is the ultimate and beats any cake, cookie, pie, or schoolbread anyday.

 

[maroo]

Ok...

You guys are SOOOOOOO confused!!!!!

It's CHOCOLATE! It has to be chocolate! Pie, Cake, brownies...all good...but it has to be CHOCOLATE!

 

[*NikkiBell*]

But what KIND of chocolate? Godiva is my personal favorite and I personally feel that it is its own "religious experience" as John would say.

 

[maroo]

Well...Godiva would definitely work!!

I also like chocolate - even plain Hershey's - when it is mixed with peanut butter or caramel! YUM!!!!

All of this talk is making me HUNGRY!

*runs to find CHOCOLATE!!!*

 

[Yvet]

Pete and the rest but most of all Pete,

I'm so sorry.
I feel ashamed i experience substitutional shame....

Here you are working your b*t off for a board, a community and this crap is what you get back.

How bad can we be if we just can't accept a rule that has been made to protect one and another for being name called.

It's your website, your forum and you can do whatever you want to do with it. You can make up any rule you want.
And we have to accept this.
When we don't accept it, then we have to leave this forum and just go play somewhere else.
Take it or leave it.

 

[TheBeadPirate]

Looks like the minor changes are going through smoothly hardly any chit-chat on the boards at all:rotfl2

I have to throw my support behind Pie... as well as Pete and the gang...

It is a private board (and I have come to meet some great folks as a result of the interactions on this site)... I really cannot recall being assulted (other than by Mindy when at DATW)... but then again I avoid the topics of religion and politics at all costs..

IMHO 99% of the people on these boards would have a similar positive comment... I appreciate the site, the opportunities for prizies, events, etc., thanks for the information that has saved me countless dollars and made for much more positive experiences while in the parks...

The team probably pulled some long hours this weekend with the update and might be a little more sensitive to the slings and arrows than normal..

At the end of the day I am here because I follow the minimal rules (that Pete and company have designed), I try and contribute to the community, and value the info and friendships developed...

What would our buddy Bawb think about this flap????

Thanks for the investment and effort in the board and allowing us to be a part...

This one's from Rick

 

[cocowum]

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

Oh snap! That just happened...

I believe in the trades, they call that last post being "Petewernered" LOL


you hit the nail on the head!

Being "Petewernered" Love it!

 

[dpuck1998]

While I realize this has very little impact on the particular forum, we have been asked to post something letting everyone know that there is a new policy in effect for every area of the DIS Boards.

Discussions of politics and religion are no longer allowed anywhere on the DIS.

This does not mean that you can not ask for prayers or pixie dust, It doesnt mean that you can not wish someone Merry Christmas.

It means that political and religious discussion / debates are not allowed.

If anyone is interested the new policy is located here:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2125870

As I said earlier...this has VERY little bearing on this forum, but we were asked to let everyone know.

Debates on cake versus pie versus brownies are fine BTW.

What about angel food vs. devils food cake?

 

[Cyrano]

Now now folks it is time to get serious

Why must the talk be of cake or pie Rather than puddings let us talk cheese... cheddar or camembert. I say camembert

 

[mmexpress]

discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge.
Pete

By means of member donations and site sponsers which would not be here without the large member base.