New DIS Board policy in effect

[Madi100]

Don't hate me but I am going to be controversial now:


Ice Cream


I know t's not a baked good (and don't get me wrong, I love pie, cake, and cookies) but ice cream is my favorite!! It has gotten me through some tough times and I am not going to turn my back on it now.

That depends. Is it fat free ice-cream? I just had some fat-free ice-cream that is not agreeing with my tummy.

 

[DisneyKevin]

I do not believe I was breaking dis guidelines with that post but if I was than I am sorry as I was not aware of it nor was I meaning to. Nor was I trying to be disrespectful. I was just stating my opinion and trying to explain where I was coming from as you invited me to do. It is not personal we just have different opinions on the subject. Agree to disagree on this one?
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I was not accusing you of breaking any rules. I was simply stating the same thing I say every time something like this comes up.

I also dont believe you are being disrespectful. You have been invited to share your opinion and as long as you (and anyone else) follows DIS Board guidelines, you will be allowed to voice your opinion.

As far as agreeing to disagree....I cant do that on this one. A new policy has been put in place and we all will abide by it whether we like it or not.

You've asked about this being applicable from the top down and whether or not this applies to the podcast and that seems to be a sticking point. As this is a privately held business and even though we have been invited to voice our opinion...all decisions and policies rest solely with the owner of the business.

 

[WaltD4Me]

I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

I look at this as a "My house, my rules" kind of thing. The DISboards being Pete's "house" in this scenario. And at my house I have a few rules, not many, but a few and from time to time I have broken all of them.

 

[Halbleib1]

I was not accusing you of breaking any rules. I was simply stating the same thing I say every time something like this comes up.
I also dont believe you are being disrespectful. You have been invited to share your opinion and as long as you (and anyone else) follows DIS Board guidelines, you will be allowed to voice your opinion.

Just wanted to clarify that. Thank you.

As far as agreeing to disagree....I cant do that on this one. A new policy has been put in place and we all will abide by it whether we like it or not.

I was not asking you to agree to disagree about the policy or to make an exception or whatever it may have come off sounding like in my post-I am sure you were not the main decision maker and could not change it even if you wanted to. I have said that I will follow the rules even though I do not agree with them. I was asking to agree to disagree about our opinions on some of the issues I raised in my posts about why I do not agree with the decision and/or with some of the answers provided by you and others about the decision.

You've asked about this being applicable from the top down and whether or not this applies to the podcast and that seems to be a sticking point. As this is a privately held business and even though we have been invited to voice our opinion...all decisions and policies rest solely with the owner of the business.

This will be my last comment on this topic as no matter what is said the decision has been made and I do not wish to have any hard feelings about it as that was never my intention. Quite frankly as I said in a past post I tried not to participate in those topics anyhow but it is a matter of principal and just rubbed me the wrong way. Thus the reason I am responding this last time:

In other words it is to be do as I say not as I do. If you are going to have certain rules in place weather it be in your own home or in business- be it private or public owned you need to set a good example. For example: in my own home I ask that people please remove their shoes in the foyer. To set a good example I remove my shoes as does my husband and son in the foyer as well. I can not expect guests to my home to remove their shoes if I am not willing to do the same. As well as when I go to others homes I remove my shoes out of respect for them. Do rules get broken on occasion? Of course they do we are all human. But people learn best by example.

 

[M&M's]

In other words it is to be do as I say not as I do. If you are going to have certain rules in place weather it be in your own home or in business- be it private or public owned you need to set a good example. For example: in my own home I ask that people please remove their shoes in the foyer. To set a good example I remove my shoes as does my husband and son in the foyer as well. I can not expect guests to my home to remove their shoes if I am not willing to do the same. As well as when I go to others homes I remove my shoes out of respect for them. Do rules get broken on occasion? Of course they do we are all human. But people learn best by example.

I think I remember once on the podcast Pete said something along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing here, "I'm sorry. I promised never to discuss politics on this podcast, but..."

That's once in, what, three years? And all that time there was no official policy regarding politics or religion. So as far as my memory goes, I think the podcast team was leading by example. I can say with confidence that the moderators not on the podcast team are held to the same standard as well in the forums. While Pete and the team can do whatever they would like and censor the rest of us, that is not what I believe Pete stands for (or Kevin, John, etc..). In other words, I know everyone who posts on these boards will have to follow the rules, regardless of what the title says below their name.

Also, since this is a NEW policy, we really cannot look at the past, because a few days ago there was no rule against discussing politics or religion.

 

[Halbleib1]

I think I remember once on the podcast Pete said something along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing here, "I'm sorry. I promised never to discuss politics on this podcast, but..."

That's once in, what, three years? And all that time there was no official policy regarding politics or religion. So as far as my memory goes, I think the podcast team was leading by example. I can say with confidence that the moderators not on the podcast team are held to the same standard as well in the forums. While Pete and the team can do whatever they would like and censor the rest of us, that is not what I believe Pete stands for (or Kevin, John, etc..). In other words, I know everyone who posts on these boards will have to follow the rules, regardless of what the title says below their name. Time will tell on this as well.

Also, since this is a NEW policy, we really cannot look at the past, because a few days ago there was no rule against discussing politics or religion.[/QUOTE]
That's a fair statement and only time will tell.

 

[luke]

Personally I think it's a good move to have it as official policy, as these kind of topics are the ones that can get the most heated in my experience.

One thing tho, how does this effect things like sigs and avatars, as I'm sure I've seen the odd religious/political one about

 

[eeyorethegreat]

I don't even know why this is a big deal, these boards have a main focus of Disney travel and Disney topics in general. Do things get off topic sure obviously but really folks what drew us to the DIS was not religion or politics, it was a love of or at least an interest in Disney. I am quite sure given that fact, the Dis will continue to be a successful venture without the random discussions of religion and politics. Those who must discuss religion and politics have many, many other resources to do so both online and offline as Kevin and Pete have said, and the Dis is not the place to do that.

Oh and by the way, I like a good strawberry pie!

 

[bonybroad]

Okay, I'm going to make it tough on everyone (and I just had to read 9 PAGES of posts to get to this..)
Boston Cream Pie

Is it pie?

Is it cake?

What about the custard?

Chocolate icing?

The best of all things....

 

[DVCsince02]

Okay, I'm going to make it tough on everyone (and I just had to read 9 PAGES of posts to get to this..)
Boston Cream Pie

Is it pie?

Is it cake?

What about the custard?

Chocolate icing?

The best of all things....

It's in the name on this one.... Pie.

 

[WebmasterPete]

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In other words it is to be do as I say not as I do. If you are going to have certain rules in place weather it be in your own home or in business- be it private or public owned you need to set a good example. For example: in my own home I ask that people please remove their shoes in the foyer. To set a good example I remove my shoes as does my husband and son in the foyer as well. I can not expect guests to my home to remove their shoes if I am not willing to do the same. As well as when I go to others homes I remove my shoes out of respect for them. Do rules get broken on occasion? Of course they do we are all human. But people learn best by example.

Sorry, I wasn't going to respond to this - BUT...

There was one occasion, I believe it was a little more than a year ago, where I did discuss something that was overtly political. I apologized for it the next week and promised my listeners that it would not happen again. As for the tourism tax issue - THAT HAS TO DO WITH TOURISM WHICH IS WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT. I think it's becoming clear that you don't listen to the show very often and are simply spouting nonsense because you disagree with this new policy and don't have any facts to back up your argument.

You accuse me of not following my own rules. Since we just implemented this policy THIS WEEKEND and have not yet done a show since it was implemented, exactly how is this a "do as I say, not as I do" scenario? Give me "examples" where we've violated this??

Bottom line - if you don’t like how I run the boards - don’t post here. If you don't like how I run the show - don't listen. Your "freedom" as an American gives you the right to utilize that white strip above your browser to enter in any URL you'd like. Perhaps there’s another show/forum that better suits your tastes.

In any event, if you're going to accuse me of something, you should be able to back it up with proof and not the uninformed hyperbole you've been spewing.

Pete

 

[bonybroad]

But it's actually cake disguised as a pie. Soooo, if you like Boston Cream pie, you actually like cake!
Nyah Nyah!

 

[JimFitz]

Can't we all just get along? I've debated on the political threads and I am glad they are gone. I found myself getting upset on a Disney Message board about peoples political views......WTH??

I want to see John do the Single Ladies dance while eating pie.

 

[disneydreamgirl]

DH would tell you brownies trump all because you can eat them lying down watching the game!

 

[JenniBugInPink]

Pete, know that we love you, your boards, and all of your hard work. It's yours and we respect it. Please don't let any disrespectful people keep you from knowing that you are doing a good thing here with these boards. You have made a lot of people happy and created a lot of different freindships with the boards. You have made the world a better place for us. Thank you...

Thanks to The Dis via Pete, John, Kevin, et. al., my husband and I just put a downpayment on a small AKV DVC membership. We took our first vacation in 30 YEARS 2 years ago. We were people that NEVER went on vacation. We had such a good time, thanks to the things I learned here on the boards, that we went again last year. And now, thanks to a bit of money we inherited from FIL, we're making sure that I get to go back to WDW most every year.

None of that would have happened were it not for the boards. I wouldn't have known how to make that first trip to Disney easy. I wouldn't have known that there was a special going on where I could buy only 100 points at AV right now. I wouldn't have known about the incentive that saved us money. I wouldn't have known so many things that have made that one week out of the year that means more to me than you guys can possibly imagine so special and important.

So, THANK YOU!! As far as I'm concerned, you can make any rule you want. And you don't have to follow it if you don't want to, cause this is YOUR board--you're just giving us the opportunity to benefit from it. And you can talk about anything you like on the podcast, too! Just don't ever stop doing them, cause I'd die without them!

 

[wishspirit]

Yum, yum key lime pie.

Yuck! I have to voice my own opinion of grossness on that desert!

Now now folks it is time to get serious

Why must the talk be of cake or pie Rather than puddings let us talk cheese... cheddar or camembert. I say camembert

All cheese is wrong, yuck yuck yuck!!

For those who don't use it, Firefox has a built in spell checker for bad spellers like me. It really is much better than IE. Just say'en

*cough* Google chrome *cough* (although the weird thing with it is, it always highlights google as being spelled wrong!! )

I've always heard that a dual fuel range is best. Gas for the cooktop and electric for the oven. I believe it has to do with the dryer electric heat. I don't know but it is what Alton Brown suggests so that is good enough for me.

Definitely electric fan assisted for ovens and gas or ceramic for stoves, wouldn't have it any other way!

Lets all not get upset about politics on a Disney discussion board (my friends are laughing that this would even be an issue!), I think the main problem is people not knowing where the cut and dry will be. As it has always been, mods have the final decision, and with this new rule they can punish those who ether say horrid things or 'bait' others into saying them. They won't have a go at you if your thread on mickey socks happens to end up in a sticky wicket, however they will obviously punish the person who is making other posters upset or unhappy. The mods here do a good job, and as long as you are respectful and kind, there is no issue.

I understand that people are disappointed, however there are plenty of other places in which these things are be discussed, and don't worry about something you say potentially being political, if it isn't derogatory or 'baiting' it shouldn't be an issue.

What Pete said on the podcast about the use of Tourism dollars in Orlando was exactly that. He is allowed to state his opinion. If he was being rude or nasty to the government or its supporters, it would be a different matter, however he just said it was a waste. If you have an issue with what is being said on the podcast, there are plenty of great podcasts out there to try out instead, which maybe a better fit (heck I listen to others just for the great music they play in the background rather than just harps! )

Everything could be misconstrued in the wrong way, especially in type where intonation isn't always obvious. All we can do it be polite, and trust the mods, who do an outstanding job!

p.s. What's with all this 'rights of American's' stuff? Don't forget the Brits here too!

 

[Tonya2426]

Are we talking home made or storebought? Makes a difference ya know!

Whatever somone prefers!! Just depends on how good the home made is - some sf better than others. Which is the same for store bought. I am a big fan of Edy's right now.

That depends. Is it fat free ice-cream? I just had some fat-free ice-cream that is not agreeing with my tummy.

Fat-free ice cream!?!?!?! What is the point of that? I have given up on those and would just rather go without than go fat-free or low-fat. Just not worth it in the end.

 

[Tonya2426]

Okay, I'm going to make it tough on everyone (and I just had to read 9 PAGES of posts to get to this..)
Boston Cream Pie

Is it pie?

Is it cake?

What about the custard?

Chocolate icing?

The best of all things....

Just because you call it a duck doesn't mean it waddles and quackes. No crust means it is not pie. Therefore it is cake with yummy custard filling.

 

[WaltD4Me]

Quote:
Originally Posted by safetymom
Yum, yum key lime pie.


Yuck! I have to voice my own opinion of grossness on that desert!

Okay, NOW, you have gone TOO far!!!!

Key lime pie gross??? Key lime pie is a fresh summer delight that surpasses many of the other desserts discussed here. I had decided not to say anything about the inferior choices that were being discussed, I was just going to keep my mouth shut comfortable in the knowledge that key lime PIE was of course the best, but you crossed the line, insulting and disparaging such a wonderful confection and since you were not capable of keeping this a civil discussion, I will tell you what IS gross....NUTS of any kind in any dessert! They taste like dirt most of the time and should be banned from all cookies, brownies, pies and any other dessert people put them in. They are just nasty. No offense to any nut lovers out there of course.

 

[wishspirit]

Okay, NOW, you have gone TOO far!!!!

Key lime pie gross??? Key lime pie is a fresh summer delight that surpasses many of the other desserts discussed here. I had decided not to say anything about the inferior choices that were being discussed, I was just going to keep my mouth shut comfortable in the knowledge that key lime PIE was of course the best, but you crossed the line, insulting and disparaging such a wonderful confection and since you were not capable of keeping this a civil discussion, I will tell you what IS gross....NUTS of any kind in any dessert! They taste like dirt most of the time and should be banned from all cookies, brownies, pies and any other dessert people put them in. They are just nasty. No offense to any nut lovers out there of course.

Key Lime pie makes my tongue tingle... in a bad way!

Yuck!