New clause in rumored 4/7 deal stinks for AP holders

[lilstint]

Last year I saved $442 more than AP on my 7 night stay in a garden view room at the Poly. I had to pay about $150 for two one day tickets to book the deal but the $200 gift card more than covered that. This year that savings would be wiped out by having to buy 4 day tickets.

Agreed. The 4/3 deal was better for the highest priced rooms last year.

 

[GetGlowing]

I know, that would've been great!!! Maybe next year (can always dream, right?) .

>sarcasm alert<

If everyone would stop going to WDW for a year, we'd see some GREAT deals. So cancel those 2010 trips everybody.

 

[raven69david]

Right now I have AKL for $938.00 a week (11/29-12/5) with AP room-only. With the 4/3 deal, the same room w/a 1 day ticket would cost me $1535.35 so I'm not sure why anyone would believe that the 4/3 deal is better than an AP rate.

Comparing my current AP rate for ASMo for same dates above, I'm paying $333.60 or $49.20 per night. With the 4/3 deal, the same room would come out to $704.87.

Am I missing something?

If tickets do turn out to be length of stay, then the prices above would be much higher with the savings being less attractive to make me want to even glance at a 4/3 deal vs. my AP rates.

BTW, AKL is room for my family and ASMo is room for in-laws.

 

[mddisneyfamily]

OP here. Here are the numbers I am looking at...

November 13-20 7 nights at the Yacht Club Resort water view

AP rates are $344 per night or $2709 for the 7 nights

Rack rate for that time frame is $465 per night... so if I multiply that by 4 the total is $1860...a savings of close to a thousand dollars. Plus under the old plan I will have to add 1 day passes but it's still a great savings. I don't mind investing in the one day passes but don't want to pay hundreds more right now for 7 day passes I really don't need. Our renewal is not until late July.

 

[VeroBeach]

Rack rate for that time frame is $465 per night... so if I multiply that by 4 the total is $1860...a savings of close to a thousand dollars.

You forgot the tax - makes it $2093.

 

[mddisneyfamily]

You forgot the tax - makes it $2093.

Oops you're right, thanks. Still a $600+ savings.

 

[swald91]

AP holders get discount that Non-AP holders don't.
I can't afford AP because we can only travel once a year--
I don't think that makes me less loyal to Disney.

I agree with you-we are not pass holders but travel to Disney sometimes twice a year-we stay at deluxes & spend alot of $$$-we never get a pin/code-NOTHING-I think that Disney should give out deals to returning guests-both pass holders or just regular guests!!! This 4/3 deal won't work for us-so we probably won't go again this upcoming year....

 

[VeroBeach]

I think that Disney should give out deals to returning guests-both pass holders or just regular guests!

The problem is, an extremely large percentage of Disney guests ARE returning guests!

 

[mamasha]

Right now I have AKL for $938.00 a week (11/29-12/5) with AP room-only.
May I ask what kind of room you booked? Right now I have room-only code SV for 1400 6 nights....don't know if I should upgrade the tix to get an ap for a better rate
thanks

 

[keishashadow]

I think the OP was objecting to being forced to purchase a MYW ticket that matches the length of stay when they already had an AP in hand, rather than being able to opt for a single day base ticket.

But yes, overall AP room-only discounts are roughly the same most of the time as a 4/3 deal. The difference is the 4/3 deal includes discounts on MYW tickets (admittedly, that's just $9 savings), and wasn't dining included in the 4/3 deal as well?

I'd be interested in learning if there is a clause regarding non-expire tickets (which are a much better bargain if you can use them or upgrade them)...

MGM

Mouse (already) Got (your) Money

disney already knows the AP crowd will either stay for a longer trip or come back, they don't need to entice u with another trip.

im sure most peeps are glad disney offers APs, along with frequent AP rates & other benefits.

The current ability to hold onto a tix associated with a reservation for future usage or the ability upgrade even a single day tix toward longer than length of stay or annual pass (in DVCer's case along with their current AP discount) is great; i'd hate to see this eliminated. Not long ago u could use several different tix to upgrade to 1 MYW tix & that didn't last long.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

As someone that just bought AP's I will be very disappointed if the 'you have to buy 7 day MYW rules' applies. BUT since we won't be staying at a special deluxe view room the AP rate if it is as good as it is now for Jan will work for us, as we want to stay at WL. I just hope Disney announces a great deal for both AP and non AP holders for the spring.

 

[mastersd]

Hi, I just had this conversation about buyng tickets when I am a passholder. I said, "What do I do with all of the extra tickets?" She said you can take the value of the tickets and apply it to your next annual pass, save the tickets or use them in california.

 

[swald91]

The problem is, an extremely large percentage of Disney guests ARE returning guests!

And my family loves Disney but honestly really tired of hearing how there are so many pins/codes that people who visit only one or twice receive. I don't think that it's a problem-they know we will return I just wish they would do something for returning guests. And I have also read about discounts up to 55% off deluxe club level-so if these travel agencies can afford to to "sell" these trips why can't Disney offer great discounts to those of us who continue to go there?

 

[Bete]

Will someone explain, please. I thought you got free park tickets, too. You buy a 4 day park ticket and you receive a 3 day park ticket added on for free which nets you a 7 day park ticket for the cost of 4. The OP is implying that you pay for the length of your stay on park tics.

 

[DrmWvr1299]

And my family loves Disney but honestly really tired of hearing how there are so many pins/codes that people who visit only one or twice receive. I don't think that it's a problem-they know we will return I just wish they would do something for returning guests. And I have also read about discounts up to 55% off deluxe club level-so if these travel agencies can afford to to "sell" these trips why can't Disney offer great discounts to those of us who continue to go there?

Yes, I agree completely.

 

[jagruti6]

Will someone explain, please. I thought you got free park tickets, too. You buy a 4 day park ticket and you receive a 3 day park ticket added on for free which nets you a 7 day park ticket for the cost of 4. The OP is implying that you pay for the length of your stay on park tics.

I thought this too. We didn't take advantage of this deal last year,and hope to this year. Does anyone know the rumored dates yet? We are hoping to go in May.

 

[doconeill]

Will someone explain, please. I thought you got free park tickets, too. You buy a 4 day park ticket and you receive a 3 day park ticket added on for free which nets you a 7 day park ticket for the cost of 4. The OP is implying that you pay for the length of your stay on park tics.

Not quite. You could get any length ticket you wanted - you simply paid for three days less for the ticket (I forget if there was a minimum number of days in order to get the 3 free). So you got a single ticket of the appropriate length.

Those with APs opted to pay for a single day ticket to minimize the cost, and use that at a later time for credit to a new ticket/AP/renewal.

Now the rumor is that you will be required to purchase a ticket that matches the length of stay, regardless. This requires paying more up front.

 

[lovesdumbo]

Will someone explain, please. I thought you got free park tickets, too. You buy a 4 day park ticket and you receive a 3 day park ticket added on for free which nets you a 7 day park ticket for the cost of 4. The OP is implying that you pay for the length of your stay on park tics.

Last year you bought a 4 day ticket and they gave you a 7 day ticket. The difference in cost between a 4 day ticket and a 7 day ticket is about $10.

I like many AP holders chose to only buy a 1 day ticket at a cost of about $150 for myself & my DD. This year it sounds like I would have to buy the 4 day ticket (but be given 7 day tickets) at a cost of about $445 with a value of about $465.

Those tickets do not expire if you don't use them so they can be saved for future use. I have already used the 1 day tickets I purchased last year to buy new AP's in July. I would much rather not be out the $445 now to save only $20 on the tickets I'm purchasing.

Plus I have a trip booked in early Dec for free dining which will require the purchase of tickets. I am staying at Pop on a pin code with my friends with the regular DDP so that is a much better deal than 4/3.

I am taking my DD for her 7th birthday in Jan and want to stay CL at AKL so this 4/3 will likely be a much better discount on the room than AP discount. I will likely book the 4/3 deal. My calculations say it will actually cost me about $20 more than an AP discount but I will have the $465 worth of tickets to use in the future. I'm hoping for the gift card again this year!

 

[raven69david]

Right now I have AKL for $938.00 a week (11/29-12/5) with AP room-only. With the 4/3 deal, the same room w/a 1 day ticket would cost me $1535.35

I am taking my DD for her 7th birthday in Jan and want to stay CL at AKL so this 4/3 will likely be a much better discount on the room than AP discount. I will likely book the 4/3 deal. My calculations say it will actually cost me about $20 more than an AP discount but I will have the $465 worth of tickets to use in the future. I'm hoping for the gift card again this year!

It looks like we'll be there at the same time LD. WOOHOO I wanted to know what you calculate AKL CL to come out to with this 4/3 deal? I got a great rate at AKL and may want to upgrade to CL as we got a free upgrade last month at WL from SV to CL. It kinda spoiled us (which I'm sure that was what Disney intended to do) so now we want to try CL at our favorite resort. We're thinking a few extra dollars will be the price of the upgrade to CL if there are lots of CL rooms available, but at this point I can't really tell until I call AKL and find out where they are at capacity wise a little closer to our travel dates.

 

[lovesdumbo]

It looks like we'll be there at the same time LD. WOOHOO I wanted to know what you calculate AKL CL to come out to with this 4/3 deal? I got a great rate at AKL and may want to upgrade to CL as we got a free upgrade last month at WL from SV to CL. It kinda spoiled us (which I'm sure that was what Disney intended to do) so now we want to try CL at our favorite resort. We're thinking a few extra dollars will be the price of the upgrade to CL if there are lots of CL rooms available, but at this point I can't really tell until I call AKL and find out where they are at capacity wise a little closer to our travel dates.

Let me start by saying I am a bit addicted to Disney. My DH doesn't share that problem. He would rather not go to Disney but we have been taking 1 family trip per year since 2004. One trip a year just isn't enough for me so I tend to also take 1 child at a time. I have DD(10), DS(8), DD(6).

When you are there in November I will be at Pop with my DD(10), a friend, and her DH. All 4 of us sharing one room at Pop. We've done that before so I know we'll have a great trip-I just have to bring my iPod so I don't have to listen to my friend's DH snoring. My friend got a pin so we are getting the regular DDP for free. So we are paying $103.50 per night ($82 + $10 extra adult fee + 12.5% tax) but are getting about $160 per night in free dining. No room discount can beat that!!!! We do have to buy tickets to get that deal. We have 4 one day base tickets in the package. The total is about $1,050 so my share is $525 and I'll have about $160 worth of tickets to use in the future.

I also have a trip planned Jan 20th to 27th with my youngest for her 7th birthday. My AKL calculations are based on 2010 rack rate of club level room of $350. You must be booked in a standard view room-2009 value season rack rate of $240. AP discount in December is $101 off so you're paying $139.

I don't think 4/3 deal will work for you because you are only going for 6 nights so you would be getting 2 free nights at rack or $480 + tax rather than 6 nights of AP discount or $606 + tax.

In my case I would get 3 free nights at $350 or $1050 + tax free instead of AP discount of about $700. So the 4/3 deals save me nearly $400 when you add in the tax. That would almost cover the cost of 1 adult and 1 child 4 day ticket if I have to buy those. I know I'll be back so it seem worth the $40 or so investment now for $445 worth of tickets in the future.

I will probably book 4/3 for January trip if I can get AKL CL but I'll still keep my eye out for room only and AP deals.

I enjoyed AKL CL last May when I tried it for the first time. All club level rooms are savanah view. I really LOVED the special sunrise safari that CL guests can take!


Have you considered upgrading to a pool view room at AKL? It would only be about $10 more per night.