New attractions coming to HS and MK and height limits

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

It really is a shame. I know Star Wars skews slightly older, but it doesn't have to. Also, having a height-requirement doesn't equal "better" - the best rides actually don't (see Haunted Mansion, POTC for details )! I'd like to see an omnimover style ride that is like the Batuu Museum of Galactic History, where it takes you through animatronic scenes of major events, sort of like an in-universe version of Spaceship Earth. "Then tragedy struck - the Republic falls! Emperor Palpatine exerts an iron grip on the galaxy. But, there is hope...." Okay, you might need to know Star Wars to get that. Still, it would be a dark ride with no height requirement, and a big-time people eater too! It's just what the land needs.

For Monsters, I expect it will be similar to Slinky Dog Dash in height requirement - it won't be a Rock'n Roller Coaster!

Yea I agree, rides can appeal to both adults and children alike. If the ride is well put together, you should be able to follow the story ride just from the ride. Or at least see cool stuff.
Hollywood studios does need some omnimover type ride though

 

[disneygolfer1985]

Not much has really changed at DHS just things added. So if you don't like it now, I can't imagine you liked it before. What exactly were your high capacity rides that were lost to thrill rides?

And as I said, I don't think Disney is building each park so they are equal in what they are offering for the younger, less thrill set. DHS does have way more shows than the other parks to fill that gap. I don't believe DHS will change the direction it is going in, I mean they are taking a PIXAR IP and building a roller coaster. If they ever make the bold move with Marvel I could see part of that park become Marvel "thrill" rides.

I mean DHS had changed completely in the last 10 years. Before there was the backlot and lights motor action and Osborne lights as well. All of those were high capacity and everyone could see those. Those areas were all replaced by rides with height restrictions. Disney is currently taking away rides with higher capacities that everyone can ride and building thrill rides with restrictions. As a parent with little kids it limits what parks we go to.

 

[disneygolfer1985]

I have to disagree with you there. A ton has changed at DHS and they removed many kids things or nonheight things. Backlot tours, honey I shrunk the kids, the lightening McQueen show (could have been better), I guess it’s not that much stuff but backlot tours was at least an hour experience between the actual length of the wait and ride, then honey I shrunk the kids playground was another place to kill an hour

Also don’t forget when there were the Osborne lights that would absorb large crowds of people for 3 months over the holidays.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

I mean DHS had changed completely in the last 10 years. Before there was the backlot and lights motor action and Osborne lights as well. All of those were high capacity and everyone could see those. Those areas were all replaced by rides with height restrictions. Disney is currently taking away rides with higher capacities that everyone can ride and building thrill rides with restrictions. As a parent with little kids it limits what parks we go to.

To add to that, it limits what parks we go to and it sucks because Hollywood studios does offer quite a few options that my kids love such as the Disney junior show, mickeys ride, and frozen show, but it’s hard to really fill a day up and Toy Story land has just one ride without height restriction, it’s kind of a lame land tbh, they could have done so much more, not even a Toy Story playground

Like Hollywood studios and animal kingdom have literally two rides young kids can go on each. That’s nothing and it’s a hike to get to them too. For young kids those parks are just a lot of walking.

 

[disneygolfer1985]

To add to that, it limits what parks we go to and it sucks because Hollywood studios does offer quite a few options that my kids love such as the Disney junior show, mickeys ride, and frozen show, but it’s hard to really fill a day up and Toy Story land has just one ride without height restriction, it’s kind of a lame land tbh, they could have done so much more, not even a Toy Story playground

Like Hollywood studios and animal kingdom have literally two rides young kids can go on each. That’s nothing and it’s a hike to get to them too. For young kids those parks are just a lot of walking.

Ya DHS is a half day park for us. We will do a few of the rides without height restrictions and the frozen singalong. My girls love that. My youngest is not a thrill seeker and the lines are long since there are fewer attractions or many attractions that are higher capacity.

AK is really not that bad for us. We can spend 2 days there and maybe do a ride. My girls enjoy the walking trails and doing the WE adventures. Honestly, my girls love Epcot probably the most.

 

[HopperFan]

I mean DHS had changed completely in the last 10 years. Before there was the backlot and lights motor action and Osborne lights as well. All of those were high capacity and everyone could see those. Those areas were all replaced by rides with height restrictions. Disney is currently taking away rides with higher capacities that everyone can ride and building thrill rides with restrictions. As a parent with little kids it limits what parks we go to.

I wouldn't say completely changed, but somewhat changed, and for the better. Only a few attractions are gone. Backlot Tour (not really a young kids attraction) and Lights Motor took up lots of valuable real estate for two attractions ... and generated zero income for Disney. Galaxy Edge and Toy Story Land are enjoyed by a wide range, have dining and shopping, have character meets and are very busy popular areas of the park. In Disney's eyes I think they would say they made a good decision.

There is plenty to do for all ages in the park BUT I understand that there will be some families who don't enjoy it. To that I don't think it will change and we won't see kiddie rides built. Disney has determined their target audiences, their average ages and what they need to build to compete. It is up to guests to decide if it is for them and if they get value for their dollar. If some don't, it doesn't mean Disney messed up or needs to change their path.

 

[disneygolfer1985]

I wouldn't say completely changed, but somewhat changed, and for the better. Only a few attractions are gone. Backlot Tour (not really a young kids attraction) and Lights Motor took up lots of valuable real estate for two attractions ... and generated zero income for Disney. Galaxy Edge and Toy Story Land are enjoyed by a wide range, have dining and shopping, have character meets and are very busy popular areas of the park. In Disney's eyes I think they would say they made a good decision.

There is plenty to do for all ages in the park BUT I understand that there will be some families who don't enjoy it. To that I don't think it will change and we won't see kiddie rides built. Disney has determined their target audiences, their average ages and what they need to build to compete. It is up to guests to decide if it is for them and if they get value for their dollar. If some don't, it doesn't mean Disney messed up or needs to change their path.

Disney probably is enjoying the changes since they can monetize the new rides. My main gripe is there just aren’t many attractions that have high capacities and can evenly distribute the crowds. Personally, I think it is hurting the guest experience.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Ya DHS is a half day park for us. We will do a few of the rides without height restrictions and the frozen singalong. My girls love that. My youngest is not a thrill seeker and the lines are long since there are fewer attractions or many attractions that are higher capacity.

AK is really not that bad for us. We can spend 2 days there and maybe do a ride. My girls enjoy the walking trails and doing the WE adventures. Honestly, my girls love Epcot probably the most.

Yea AK isn’t bad, it’s fun and everything but we have a zoo back home that is pretty good and well shaded that we go to often. When we were season pass holders we would go to AK, but when paying by the day it’s much harder to justify and we don’t like park hopping, especially since it’s an additional cost. When the new land is built then maybe that could change and also as they get older. The concept of animal kingdom is nice, but it just feels like Disney isn’t maximizing its potential.

HS we could push to be a full day but we will have to cover every single thing it has for them and even then it’s pushing it. When we had annual passes it was actually our 2nd fav park because most of the kids stuff we would do besides Toy Story ride was all pretty close by and we can do it all in like 3-4ish hours

Epcot is the 2nd fav park after MK for us.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

I wouldn't say completely changed, but somewhat changed, and for the better. Only a few attractions are gone. Backlot Tour (not really a young kids attraction) and Lights Motor took up lots of valuable real estate for two attractions ... and generated zero income for Disney. Galaxy Edge and Toy Story Land are enjoyed by a wide range, have dining and shopping, have character meets and are very busy popular areas of the park. In Disney's eyes I think they would say they made a good decision.

There is plenty to do for all ages in the park BUT I understand that there will be some families who don't enjoy it. To that I don't think it will change and we won't see kiddie rides built. Disney has determined their target audiences, their average ages and what they need to build to compete. It is up to guests to decide if it is for them and if they get value for their dollar. If some don't, it doesn't mean Disney messed up or needs to change their path.

is the haunted mansion ride a kiddie ride or jungle cruise? Those are rides enjoyed by all ages and especially lap sitters. Disney was successful because its rides appealed to all ages. Now the latest ride that is open to all ages is some quick lackluster boat ride in animal kingdom.

I’m not saying Disney made the wrong choice but they keep focusing on changing things instead of adding things. Epcot has a giant old pavilion sitting empty that they can add too.

I read a stat that Disneyland has more attractions then all four parks at Disney world combined. Not sure how accurate it is but that park was built much more compact, whereas at Disney world at the slightest space issue they just demolish it and don’t try to work out the space issues.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Disney probably is enjoying the changes since they can monetize the new rides. My main gripe is there just aren’t many attractions that have high capacities and can evenly distribute the crowds. Personally, I think it is hurting the guest experience.

There is a lot hurting the guest experience lol

 

[disneygolfer1985]

Yea AK isn’t bad, it’s fun and everything but we have a zoo back home that is pretty good and well shaded that we go to often. When we were season pass holders we would go to AK, but when paying by the day it’s much harder to justify and we don’t like park hopping, especially since it’s an additional cost. When the new land is built then maybe that could change and also as they get older. The concept of animal kingdom is nice, but it just feels like Disney isn’t maximizing its potential.

HS we could push to be a full day but we will have to cover every single thing it has for them and even then it’s pushing it. When we had annual passes it was actually our 2nd fav park because most of the kids stuff we would do besides Toy Story ride was all pretty close by and we can do it all in like 3-4ish hours

Epcot is the 2nd fav park after MK for us.

Ya my girls are kind of spoiled since they gone to Disney since being really young so our local zoo doesn’t interest them as much. We do park hoppers since we stay at the BWV and typically eat dinner at Epcot and that is a good park to wind down and relax in.

 

[disneygolfer1985]

is the haunted mansion ride a kiddie ride or jungle cruise? Those are rides enjoyed by all ages and especially lap sitters. Disney was successful because its rides appealed to all ages. Now the latest ride that is open to all ages is some quick lackluster boat ride in animal kingdom.

I’m not saying Disney made the wrong choice but they keep focusing on changing things instead of adding things. Epcot has a giant old pavilion sitting empty that they can add too.

I read a stat that Disneyland has more attractions then all four parks at Disney world combined. Not sure how accurate it is but that park was built much more compact, whereas at Disney world at the slightest space issue they just demolish it and don’t try to work out the space issues.

I agree. Disney is taking attractions that everyone can ride and focusing on more thrill rides that they can charge for but not everyone can ride so it is reducing the available attractions that everyone can ride.

 

[HopperFan]

Disney probably is enjoying the changes since they can monetize the new rides. My main gripe is there just aren’t many attractions that have high capacities and can evenly distribute the crowds. Personally, I think it is hurting the guest experience.

I just looked and ...

Light Motor Action and Backlot Tour = @ 2400 guests per hour

Rise & M Falcon and Slinky and Alien Spinner = @ 5800 guests per hour

 

[disneygolfer1985]

I just looked and ...

Light Motor Action and Backlot Tour = @ 2400 guests per hour

Rise & M Falcon and Slinky and Alien Spinner = @ 5800 guests per hour

I would question that since the stands could hold 5000 people and the backlot tour was a continuous show. The attractions were longer so from a guest experience they at least weren’t waiting in lines the whole time. If you also consider the osbornes lights over the holidays that area could handle a huge amount of people that weren’t waiting in lines. I feel like the lines are longer now than they used to be. Doesn’t mean they are it is just my perception

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Ya my girls are kind of spoiled since they gone to Disney since being really young so our local zoo doesn’t interest them as much. We do park hoppers since we stay at the BWV and typically eat dinner at Epcot and that is a good park to wind down and relax in.

That’s true plus how many nights in a row can you eat the same two things from the quick service place at boardwalk

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Light Motor Action and Backlot Tour = @ 2400 guests per hour

Rise & M Falcon and Slinky and Alien Spinner = @ 5800 guests per hour

This kind of proves @disneygolfer1985’s point. But idk where you got your numbers for. Wiki says the show capacity of light motor action is 5000 per show.
But even with that you are seeing two things go away for 4 things and the capacity went down. also the ability for Disney to charge more money went up dramatically as there are now a few rides there that are lightening lanes plus all the spending opportunities in those areas. This proves the point.

I would question that since the stands could hold 5000 people and the backlot tour was a continuous show. The attractions were longer so from a guest experience they at least weren’t waiting in lines the whole time. If you also consider the osbornes lights over the holidays that area could handle a huge amount of people that weren’t waiting in lines. I feel like the lines are longer now than they used to be. Doesn’t mean they are it is just my perception

Beat me to It. It’s hard to judge by lines because of all the changes to the lines since those things went away. the Osborne lights were just at night though?

 

[Minnie1222]

This kind of proves @disneygolfer1985’s point. But idk where you got your numbers for. Wiki says the show capacity of light motor action is 5000 per show.

If I remember correctly, Light Motors Action only had 3 shows per day. Even if it met the maximum capacity per show, it would have served only 15000 people per day. Dividing that by an average 12 hour day and you get 1250 guests/hour, whereas I read that Rise alone can accommodate 1300-1700 guests/hour.

 

[hardcorestitch]

It’s so terrible when a park doesn’t have too much for some guests… it instantly becomes a Not-So-Cool Kid Summer…

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

If I remember correctly, Light Motors Action only had 3 shows per day. Even if it met the maximum capacity per show, it would have served only 15000 people per day. Dividing that by an average 12 hour day and you get 1250 guests/hour, whereas I read that Rise alone can accommodate 1300-1700 guests/hour.

So going with that math of 1,250 for the backlot trams I found out one tram of 200 people left every 4 minutes so 60/4=15 15 trams an hour. 200 times 15=3,000 now add the 1,250 and it’s 4,250, which is much closer to those four attractions listed. Now factor in that the average ride you listed last wayyyyyy less time. I think if you add up all the ride times combined they still equal less time than one of the removed things. But like @disneygolfer1985 said, that’s more opportunity to spend money and charge for lightening lanes.

 

[disneygolfer1985]

This kind of proves @disneygolfer1985’s point. But idk where you got your numbers for. Wiki says the show capacity of light motor action is 5000 per show.
But even with that you are seeing two things go away for 4 things and the capacity went down. also the ability for Disney to charge more money went up dramatically as there are now a few rides there that are lightening lanes plus all the spending opportunities in those areas. This proves the point.


Beat me to It. It’s hard to judge by lines because of all the changes to the lines since those things went away. the Osborne lights were just at night though?

Osborne lights were just at night but the streets of America were packed from 5:30 until park closing so it helped moved the crowds around and you didn’t have to wait in lines. That’s kind of my main point by removing rides that were long rides. Maybe the capacity wasn’t as high based on some research but you were not waiting in a line for an hour and actually doing something. Now all the new rides usually have an hour wait for a max 5 minute ride.