New $500 Resale DVC Transfer Fee

[mkatsy]

On top of that, there are members who fall into multiple categories. We fall into 2 of them ourselves lol.

Those points can be used here, here and there. The other points, no not those ones, can be used here, there, but not there. If we combine points, they can only be used during high tide there, here and over yonder. Throw in a December UY and, oh no I've gone crossed eyed!

Yes. DVC is quite straightforward . Of course, this is all in good fun. We love DVC and love being part of this wonderful community

true … but when speaking exclusively in the context of a new user entering the system there are only four choices. Direct or resale (each of these is available as restricted or non restricted). Each contract has a use year but that is used exclusively for inventory control, it does not affect your access to a property, nor are there any fees attached to use year. All of the grandfathered contract variations are closed to new members. Points are points, taking into consideration resale restrictions, there are no “loyalty” levels. A comma club member does not have preferential access to the booking calendar. Guaranteed weeks are a small percentage of sales and are only available in a yearly option vs. “floating week” “annual week” and “every other year” that exist in MCV legacy. Keeping restrictions aside, DVC points are considered equal in the exchange. A point from a riviera contract has the same exchange value as a Saratoga point, there is no premier or select qualifier. From what I can understand, when you own a week it has to be assigned a value based on the desirability of your home resort location and the desirability of the week you own. This determines your trading power in the exchange when you want to stay somewhere else. That’s too much for me just give me the DVC. Edited to add: wait! There’s more … I forgot that there are two different kinds of points in the Marriott system. There are the MVC points and then there is an Interval International (owned by Marriott) point system. The Interval point system consists of points that only last for three years. $495 entry fee ~ $2,500 “god knows what” fee ~ 0.4 cents per point ~ 100,000 point minimum buy in. Might as well just light the money on fire at that point

 

[Brian Noble]

TUG is often quoted as the place where to look at for other timeshares. I was briefly interested on the Marriot near DLP so I tried looking at TUG, but I found it difficult even to find a clear starting point.

There isn't one. It's a community, not a tutorial. Some of the larger mini-systems have some tutorial material, but none of them have fan bases as rabid as Disney, so there is less informational collateral out there.

Instead, TUG is a thing you just read. You find a thread, and if it looks interesting you go back to the beginning and start reading. Over time you learn which posters know what they are talking about, which have axes to grind, and so on. Eventually, you build up an understanding of the landscape as if you were recreating one of Seurat's pointilism paintings.



You can also ask questions, but in the beginning you don't really even know the questions to ask. So, just read.

I probably spent a good year reading TUG before buying my first (resale!) timeshare, and went from there. Looking back on it, there were a couple of decisions that were not entirely optimal, but none of them were regrettable. I had tried to make a few regrettable purchasing decisions before that, but thankfully was unsuccessful.

Of course, if you are interested primarily in the DLP Marriott, the easiest way is probably to just buy it as a Getaway. There is pretty good availability for lower-demand seasons, and in the lowest seasons its a downright steal. This might not work if you need high-shoulder to peak, though. The resort is highly seasonal. You can also do it as a DVC exchnage, which might not be terrible.

 

[Brian Noble]

You can also do it as a DVC exchnage, which might not be terrible.

I went back and looked. Right now you can get an exchange for mid-May 2026 for 260 points in a 2BR. That's about $5K depending on how you value your points, but it would be cheaper just to rent it from Marriott. That same week using a Bonvoy 25% discount is about 2,225 Euro, all-in, cancellable up to two weeks before check-in. After that, 50% penalty. At current exchange rates, that's less that $2,700.

I can also see that week with my unbranded trader that I paid change-in-the-couch to buy. Fees on that week are about $1,100/week (maybe less, I forget). Throw in the II exchange fee which is ~$250, and I'd be getting in for about half price, but cancellation is a lot trickier.

Unfortunately, I promised my daughter that we'd go to Tokyo this May to celeberate her Doctorate. That's going to cost a lot more! ;-)

 

[stat]

On top of that, there are members who fall into multiple categories. We fall into 2 of them ourselves lol.

And on top of that, there's now the MMB / DVC-BY split. The matrix of possible combinations is growing

 

[mkatsy]

And on top of that, there's now the MMB / DVC-BY split. The matrix of possible combinations is growing

The MMB & OTU points are only available for use at 7 months. They have no impact on the general membership’s ability to book a room. Marriott “sells” access to the booking calendar. There is a matrix available on the internet, but the highlights are that members of the “chairman’s club - 7,000 points” get open access and flexibility at 13 months. Owners with 3,999 or less points get access at 10 months with the option to purchase 13 month access for a 20% point premium (restricted to a 7 night consecutive stay). ~ no thanks ~

 

[RivShore]

From an average owners standpoint, I think DVC is about as simple as it can get. Booking at 7/11 months, maybe some resale restrictions for a very small subset, and that's about all you have to worry about.

Seems like all the others have lots more things to think about, but maybe those with other experience can chime in...@Brian Noble

 

[Mikey15]

From an average owners standpoint, I think DVC is about as simple as it can get. Booking at 7/11 months, maybe some resale restrictions for a very small subset, and that's about all you have to worry about.

Seems like all the others have lots more things to think about, but maybe those with other experience can chime in...@Brian Noble

I mean I suppose the timeshare my in-laws purchased in the ‘90s was as simple as it got…
They own weeks 44 & 45 in a 2-bedroom in a certain building area.

But while fixed week deeds still exist, everything about (non-DVC) timeshare systems has changed around them. On the plus, those fixed weeks can actually be used pretty much any week at that resort, and there’s no fee to change. But probably close to 20 years ago they stopped selling weeks and went to points. And any “owners update” they try to rope you into is an upsell attempt to try and get you to pay them to convert the weeks to points, which doesn’t even get you any additional time.

The fixed weeks still exchange into RCI without converting to their point system, but RCI weeks vs points I believe is actually separate inventories on the exchange system. As more resorts switch to or are built as points, I’ve noticed a decline in RCI weeks exchange offerings (some resorts will also leave RCI / switch to II like DVC did).

The newer buildings at this resort have come on after the resort switched to points, and certain status perks like resort discounts are only available to certain tiers of point owners (and not legacy week owners).

From a certain point of view, DVC’s started to water down and tier their product too, so enpoopification is just following the industry trend. But it also has some positive flexibilities and none of the high pressure sales tactics on existing owners just trying to enjoy their stay.

 

[Brian Noble]

RCI weeks vs points I believe is actually separate inventories on the exchange system.

Sort of, but it depends on what you mean by "points". There's a much longer answer that isn't really relevant here.

In practice, it almost never matters. There are a small handful of minor differences in RCI inventory, and a few areas (Hilton Head comes to mind, and maybe NYC) where the differences can be more pronounced. I do not have access to RCI Points inventory with my Wyndham points or weeks-based traders, but I would not pay the going rate to acquire it (which is about $2,500 last I checked). There are plenty of good options in straight Weeks, and I don't have enough time to stay everywhere before I die. The rest is just FOMO.

 

[SL6827]

DVC is still most likely the best timeshare company out there. My husband even mentioned the other day about looking into buying a small contract of 50-75 points to just jump back in a bit. I didn’t even mention this new fee now. But, I do believe the direction it is in will place it closer and closer to any other timeshare.

 

[VGCgroupie]

DVC is still most likely the best timeshare company out there. My husband even mentioned the other day about looking into buying a small contract of 50-75 points to just jump back in a bit. I didn’t even mention this new fee now. But, I do believe the direction it is in will place it closer and closer to any other timeshare.

Best choice we ever made in regards to vacationing was buying DVC.

 

[Sandisw]

Best choice we ever made in regards to vacationing was buying DVC.

Us too! All these changes are nothing more than nuances for us.

 

[tx911]

Us too! All these changes are nothing more than nuances for us.

I third that sentiment!

 

[stat]

All these changes are nothing more than nuances for us.

Nuances or nuisances?

 

[Sandisw]

Nuances or nuisances?

Definitely the first one!

 

[Chili327]

DVC is still most likely the best timeshare company out there. My husband even mentioned the other day about looking into buying a small contract of 50-75 points to just jump back in a bit. I didn’t even mention this new fee now. But, I do believe the direction it is in will place it closer and closer to any other timeshare.

Jump back in, just sign & send the contract to ROFR by the end of the year, & avoid the fee.!!

 

[SL6827]

Jump back in, just sign & send the contract to ROFR by the end of the year, & avoid the fee.!!