Negative review (sorry!) of the Caribbean

figment82

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Hello,
First, I want to thank everyone on this board for posting great questions and answers - I was able to find so much useful information for my recent trip to Disney that involved my mom, dad, brother, his fiance, her 5 year old son, my husband, and my 87 year old grandfather, who needed an ECV to get around and a handicap-accessible room (my husband and I were sharing with him).
I also want to apologize in advance for posting a negative review - I won't do it on the resort forums because I truly believe everyone's experience is different and just because I had a bad experience at a hotel doesn't mean everyone else will.
However, I waited several weeks to see if I calmed down (like I normally do), and I haven't, so I figured I would post here, where this information is most relevant. Sorry this story is so long - I want to provide all relevant details so anyone else in a similar situation doesn't think (like I did) that they've done everything right, only to have an issue when they get there!

My grandfather CAN walk, sort of, with a cane or his walker, but it is extremely slow and he has problems stepping up and down stairs or standing for long periods of time, etc...so getting him an ECV for the week was a no-brainer. We rented from Walker Scooters, and they were fabulous!
I also reserved a preferred-view room at the Caribbean for him...for those who aren't aware, the Caribbean is HUGE so I wanted to make sure he was as close as possible to the food court and the "main" pool. There is an internal shuttle so this may not have been entirely necessary, but we were worried my grandfather would struggle with getting on and off the buses in an ECV so we decided the extra $15/night for the preferred view was worth it.

Also because the Caribbean has two floors at each building, and no elevators, I specifically went through special needs when reserving the rooms to ensure that we would have the ground floor, and that the room my grandfather was in would be the type 1 (I think?) rooms with the handle bars and the bench so he could shower. We didn't care if the three rooms were adjoining or not, though they listed it as a preference on the reservation. Everything was confirmed, and I called once a week for the two months leading up to the trip just to make sure we would not have any problems.

The 8 of us arrived at the front desk for check-in earlier than expected. Each of the three parties had a different cast member check us in, and pretty much all at the same time we discovered that they had placed us in Trinidad South, the "pirate rooms" at the Caribbean that were as far away from the main food court/pool area as possible. When I immediately told the cast member that wasn't correct, that we had paid for preferred rooms, she got extremely defensive and said the pirate rooms were preferred (they are not - both cost $15/night extra, but they are two separate booking categories). The cast member helping my brother check-in said he would help us all out, but then insisted that there were no rooms available in the preferred section and there was nothing they could do. When I indicated we had paid $15 more per night for the preferred rooms for all 3 of our parties and that this was not a request, but a booking category, he again said there was absolutely nothing that could be done because they had us booked as pirate rooms and all preferred were full.

I carry all of my confirmation numbers with me, but I don't print anything out (I try to save paper and I know they can find things with the confirmation numbers). Luckily for me, my mother had printed out all of the information that she had, including the reservation showing we had booked the preferred room. The cast member once again said he was sorry but there was nothing he could do and we would have to take a different room, at which point I told him that I'm sorry but he would have to move us to a different hotel if my 87 year old grandfather was not going to get what he paid for and have to get on a bus every day just to get to the food court.

At this point, a manager got involved and miraculously "found" us 3 rooms in the same building of the preferred section, though not near each other (like I said, we didn't care about this). When I asked if the room would have the handicapped accessible features I needed for my grandfather, I was told that all first floor rooms at the Caribbean were handicap-accessible. (I knew this was not the correct answer, but at this point we had been in the lobby for close to two hours and my grandfather just didn't care anymore).

Room keys in hand, we went to bell services to retrieve the scooter. Bell services looked through a black box they have with keys, and said they didn't have anything in our name. They sent someone to a back room to check if the scooter was there, and it wasn't. Someone else came out and asked what the problem was and when I told them we were trying to pick up the scooter, they again went to the black box and said there was no key in there for us so it must not have been delivered. We called Walker, who confirmed they had delivered it nearly 3 hours earlier. Bell services claimed they couldn't send someone back to check again, but they would "as soon as they were able to"...nearly 30 minutes later (and close to 2.5 hours after arriving at the Caribbean) someone finally drove up to the lobby with the scooter.

The entire experience soured our first day - we had to rush around to get to our dinner reservation and didn't even have time to look at the hotel room when we checked in.

When we got back, I was unsurprised to realize that there were no benches, handle bars, etc in the room to assist my grandfather in taking a shower. When I called special needs to see what could be done, they confirmed it would be very easy for housekeeping to bring over a bench and a detachable shower head for the shower to make his life easier. Relief! Finally someone willing to help! Until...the housekeeper arrived, with the bench, but with no shower head. When we asked her where it was, she said "oh did you ask for one?" Why yes, I did! She said that they hadn't told her it was needed and that it's possible there were none left and I should call housekeeping to get one delivered. When I called housekeeping, again they asked me if I had asked special needs for one and made it sound like there were none available, but finally, close to an hour later, a maintenance man came and installed it.

The rest of the week wasn't perfect, but it went much better. It was definitely a learning experience being at Disney with someone in an ECV - I'll never get impatient in a bus line while someone is loading again, for sure! But I would suggest to people going in the future to make sure you know your rights, bring print outs of confirmations (and not just confirmation numbers), and don't be afraid to keep pushing until you get what you need.
 
This is typical for Caribbean Beach Resort. They just don't care about special needs. You get this attitude all the time there. I was supposed to be in an accessible room with tub with safety bars. Sorry we don't have it. You have to take what we have. Get to the room and there are no bars in the tub at all and the bed are too high for me to get in except by jumping so we call and ask for a stool so I can safely get into bed. No they can't do that either. Liability. Using a chair to climb in and out of bed is less safe but that is what I ended up having to do. We have never had a good experience at that resort as far as accommodation is concerned.
 
POFQ isn't any better! Half of their automatic door opening buttons don't work. Try sitting outside the door on a scooter waiting on a kind soul to walk by and open the door for you because the button doesn't work. Then being placed in the building farthest from the food court, the pool, the store, etc and on the second floor after requesting a ground floor close to these things because of mobility issues!
 
To the OP, we had a VERY similar experience on our last trip to CBR, and it will certainly prevent us from staying there again because of their dismissal of our family's needs regarding disabilities. (all of which were confirmed in our reservations and talks with the special needs dept on several occasions before our departure) Your experience was almost verbatim what happened to us!! I was hoping we were an isolated experience, but from what you have said...seems a little too similar!! In our 20 some odd trips we were never treated so rudely. Let me follow by saying, I think the resort is beautiful and a great choice for many families, just not those with mobility/accessibility issues! I hope your next trip (and ours) to Disney is a little better!! :goodvibes
 

Thanks - I probably should have asked on this board before booking what resorts are particularly able to handle accessibility issues...I just figured it was Disney so they'd all be fine!
I will say that CBR was BEAUTIFUL. It was too hot for us to fully appreciate the amenities - the one day it was finally cool enough outside to even consider relaxing on a hammock on the beach, it was raining. We made it to the pool once or twice and it was fantastic, and the zero entry was what allowed my grandfather to go in. The overall atmosphere of the resort was gorgeous - it was just spoiled (for me) by the experience with the cast and the struggles in getting around. For my grandfather, who hasn't been to Disney in 15 years and has never stayed on property, every part of the trip was a joy and he would hasve walked up hill both ways if necessary to have the experience!

Speaking of which, he's ready to go back (tomorrow, if possible :rotfl:) so I'm planning our next trip now - what hotels have people had GOOD experiences with where mobility is concerned? We're considering getting a deluxe hotel because, while the drivers were very helpful with getting the ECV on/off the buses, my grandfather really struggled getting it parallel parked into the spot allotted(since he's not used to it - parallel parking is hard!). That makes either the EPCOT (BC/YC/BWI) or Magic Kingdom resorts appealing...but if we can save money by staying at a moderate that's not CBR, we're happy to try that as well.
 
Thanks - I probably should have asked on this board before booking what resorts are particularly able to handle accessibility issues...I just figured it was Disney so they'd all be fine!
I will say that CBR was BEAUTIFUL. It was too hot for us to fully appreciate the amenities - the one day it was finally cool enough outside to even consider relaxing on a hammock on the beach, it was raining. We made it to the pool once or twice and it was fantastic, and the zero entry was what allowed my grandfather to go in. The overall atmosphere of the resort was gorgeous - it was just spoiled (for me) by the experience with the cast and the struggles in getting around. For my grandfather, who hasn't been to Disney in 15 years and has never stayed on property, every part of the trip was a joy and he would hasve walked up hill both ways if necessary to have the experience!

Speaking of which, he's ready to go back (tomorrow, if possible :rotfl:) so I'm planning our next trip now - what hotels have people had GOOD experiences with where mobility is concerned? We're considering getting a deluxe hotel because, while the drivers were very helpful with getting the ECV on/off the buses, my grandfather really struggled getting it parallel parked into the spot allotted(since he's not used to it - parallel parking is hard!). That makes either the EPCOT (BC/YC/BWI) or Magic Kingdom resorts appealing...but if we can save money by staying at a moderate that's not CBR, we're happy to try that as well.

your GF can get off it and get the driver to park it in the spot, we have seen this lots of times its no problem , try BWV our friends stay there a lot and have no trouble.:)
 
Let me ask you....

Is it even remotely possible for y'all to rent a car for the length of your stay to transport your grandfather (and, of course, his scooter) to and from the parks? The reason I ask is that I've had some excellent experiences with mobility equipped hotel rooms on site, but those same hotel rooms had AWFUL bus experiences. To this day, we refuse to use Disney bus services and just put my scooter in our car and drive from the hotel to whatever park(s) we are going to that day. (Caveat - we live in Tampa, so don't fly in)

Anyway, Pop Century has some great rooms near handicap parking that would be right up his alley for the bathroom and shower issues, but not close to bus parking and only moderately close to the food court. With his scooter, though, food court wouldn't be difficult. Remember, when you stay on site, you never have to pay for parking anywhere!

POR is another place that would be great, room-wise. Plenty of room for the scooter inside the room, great accomodations for mobility difficulties, elevator access to all rooms is pretty easy (and the place is big enough for first floor access if needed, let me know if you need to know a specific building to request, I'll give you the info). The pool and food court aren't that far away, especially with the scooter (again, depending on your room and what you tell them). The main drawback will be the buses, and they can be brutal!!!! This was the resort that absolutely set in stone our decision to never use Disney buses again, LOL! We actually put 8 of us, 4 adults and 4 kids plus my scooter in my sister's Pilot for 5 days after 2 days of Disney transportation that week - or more accurately a lack of Disney transportation - and considered it heavenly!
 
"Speaking of which, he's ready to go back (tomorrow, if possible ) so I'm planning our next trip now - what hotels have people had GOOD experiences with where mobility is concerned? We're considering getting a deluxe hotel because, while the drivers were very helpful with getting the ECV on/off the buses, my grandfather really struggled getting it parallel parked into the spot allotted(since he's not used to it - parallel parking is hard!). That makes either the EPCOT (BC/YC/BWI) or Magic Kingdom resorts appealing...but if we can save money by staying at a moderate that's not CBR, we're happy to try that as well."

We have had excellent experiences with the Poly. It is more expensive, but is very accessible, the automatic doors work, etc., and the ability to ride on and off the monorail is priceless for us. I do not, however, need a specially equipped bathroom,as of yet.

You may want to look into Randy's Mobility for ECV rentals as they deliver and pick up right to/from you, so no bell services.

Also, this last trip was the first time I dared brave the buses and really it was not bad, althoug I am very familiar with ECV driving.

hope your next trip is better.
 
Thanks to everyone for your feedback...I'll definitely look into the options you've all recommended!

Renting a vehicle is definitely possible, but how does that work with an ECV? I wouldn't even know where to begin with getting one of those things into a (van?) I know there was one night when we ate at Boma and got done late at night that all I wanted was to pay for a cab back to CBR, but we couldn't have done that with GF. (I'll have to read through this forum some more - the idea never really crossed my mind since I'm so used to Disney's transportation system!)

On a related note, I should never doubt Disney's customer service. We had a bad experience (which was resolved to our liking, albeit after a lot of time) but I emailed them anyways so that hopefully they train their CMs better for future guests...and today I received a phone call back and complimentary 2-day passes for our family as an apology. I totally was not expecting it, and am already trying to figure out how to get in another trip (so of course I can then spend even more money at Disney!)
 
This is typical for Caribbean Beach Resort. They just don't care about special needs. You get this attitude all the time there.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience there, but this statement is not my experience nor opinion about CBR. I've stayed there twice before. The first trip, they literally saved my trip when the airline MAJORLY screwed up, leaving me stuck in my hotelroom with a broken manual wheelchair and a broken charger for my powerchair (also damaged). CBR stepped up, calling for over an hour to get me a charger to rent -which I couldn't rent as a privat person!-, they sent somebody out the get it and bring it back after the trip, they paid the rental for the charger, they offered to have my chairs fixed on their expenses, they offered to rent me an ECV on their expenses, I ended up getting balloons, cards etc. in my room from all kinds of caracters talking about 'we heard about your bad luck', different CM's knew me by name and bent over backwards. I later learned some of them even took 'my story' back home and couldn't let it go. Talk about getting involved, yeiks. :scared1: When all unraffled and things first looked very grimm, I was SO regretting my decision to travel with my powerchair -first trip-, and I vowed never to travel again with the "ratched thing" on a solo trip. And as I need the chair; no more travel. That coming from somebody that goes all around the globe, solo. Not only did the CM's save that specific trip, but it made me see that even if the worst were to happen it'll somehow be OK. I still travel, both with the powerchair and solo. In a way they saved my passion of travel still being consumated.

Trip 2; another airline, again 2 chairs damaged (well, one 'missing' with the airline for a couple of days). We had a good laugh about it with the CM's that knew the story from trip1. Again; the same offer to have it fixed or get a rental in. I was there for 14 days, and ended up sick for 14 of them. Very nice CM's asking my mum how I was all of the time, helping us out with anything we might need, mousekeeper coming back daily on her own time to keep me company :scared1: , and they helped out great on the last day. Still sick, our flight wouldn't leave until late that evening. I turned green just thinking about having to leave the room at 11 am, not going to be on DME until after 5 pm. I informed if it was possible to extend our stay with one day and what it would cost. They checked to make sure the room wasn't needed-wasn't- and let us stay. For free. Both times I had maintance rearrange the room and the doorbars.

While CBR is a lovely resort, it absolutely were/are the CM's there that make it magical for our family. :wizard:


Figment, I'm sorry about your experience! That should not have happened. Maybe I read past it, but did you talk to a manager while there? Don't know all of them, but there are some terrific ones out there. (as long as they don't get placed at another resort, which seems to happen a lot to great CBR CM's :lmao: ) If not, if something like this ever happens again at a resort, politely ask to speak to the manager. Good to read that you communicated your problems back to Disney, a lot more productive than just venting on here. :hug: On to your next trip! Hopefully it'll be soon and great. :thumbsup2
 














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