Negative Post Attack

[new_yawka]

Most of us realize that no one, not even a mig, is perfect with the possible exception of new_yawka!

I am truly impressed by the civility of this thread AND the intelligence shown by Colorado Belle (Don't hold it against me, but...are you sitting down?...I'm not actually perfect...Boy, it's good to get that off my chest )

 

[jennz]

I agree with Onemoretry and Tagrel.

Also, the posts that get me are the ones with comments like "I would never stay at that resort it stinks" and "I don't know who would waste their money their" and the "it'll be easier for you to get ressies because don't have to worry about me staying at your resort." I think (and yes this is just my opinion) it's rude (for example: "that resort's not my familiy's favorite because we don't like the food selection and it was too spread out for us".) I'm not saying to withhold negative trip reports but can't it be done without slamming an entire group of owners? Those posts seem to be the ones that provoke negative threads.

 

[TnRobin]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

So far this post has remained civil. I think we are discussing this matter in a appropriate manner. But, please refrain from pointing out specific posting habit of other DIS members. This can be viewed as an attack or an attempt to start something.


thanks

 

[Laurajean1014]

I love my DVC and if/when I have an issue regarding it, I inform DVC not the boards of my issues.

 

[simpilotswife]

You know this type of thing doesn't just happen on the DIS. Go to the CruiseCritic boards and watch the fur fly there. Across the net, people seem to relish signing up to complain about their "experiences".

I think that if the OP had been a poster with several hundred posts their comments would not have received the same kind of treatment.

 

[tinkgrl]

I have been coming to these boards ever since 96 or 97 somewhere around then. At first, it was just one board for everything, but even back then people were attacked for negative posts about WDW in general. I always wondered about those people and why they attack as they do. I never did understand it. But I think I have some understanding why when people dare say anything too negative about DVC on this board there is an attack. I believe people do not want to hear anything negative about their purchase. They do not want to hear anything that would make them think that DVC is not the best buy they ever made. Because of these attacks we never get a true picture of what is really going on at DVC. Why post, if you are going to get flammed about it. Years ago, the Mouse could do no wrong on these boards, now it is DVC. Their favorite saying is "if you don't like it, sell" or what should be is, "we do not want to hear the truth" and the truth you will never get on these boards because of this situation. The most recent negative post was locked down probably because of the attacks. I for one want to hear everyone's opinion negative or positive.

Pam,

I totally agree!!! I feel bad for people who don't have a satitifactory time. I had a bad experience as well. I always want to hear both sides.

Ms. Sparrow aka Allison

 

[JimMIA]

My only concern is when you see people willing to make very important decisions based upon the opinions of complete nameless, faceless strangers via the internet. How many times have we seen people respond "I'm not going to stay at XXXXX resort now" or "I am questioning whever this was a good investment now" based solely on negative posts.

You just have to let that go. There is nothing you or I can do to help people who make decisions like that -- and you're right, there are a bunch of them.

 

[JimMIA]

With regard to the original post, I agree we need to be civil.

Sure, there are silly posts over trivial matters. But a wise man once told me, "You can tell the size of a person by the size of the thing that makes them mad." I think that old saw applies both to the nitpicking posts, and to the flaming-response posts.

It's tempting sometimes to respond to goofy people, and I've been guilty a time or two myself. But it's much easier (and less stressful) to look at an unimportant post and just let it go.

Besides, if you think the poster is goofy...just imagine what the flamers are thinking! They'll get them, so we can all just ask ourselves, in the words of the immortal philosopher, "Can't we all just get along?"

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

I have no problem with negative posts, some of them can be very humorous to see what cheeses people off. My only concern is when you see people willing to make very important decisions based upon the opinions of complete nameless, faceless strangers via the internet. How many times have we seen people respond "I'm not going to stay at XXXXX resort now" or "I am questioning whever this was a good investment now" based solely on negative posts.

I think for every negative post, there is a positive post to offset it to a certain degree. If there is a restaurant that has food that is kinda a little lower in quality to the average consumer, it may have a few more negative posts, or it may go the other way too. I really haven't read as many negative posts on here for the California Grill (with a UG reader response of 81% positive) vs. the Sci-Fi Dine-in with (39%). If someone is willing to make important decisions based on the opinions of strangers on the internet, and only on their opinions, I think maybe they have bigger issues in their life to deal with than which DVC resort is the best.

 

[MJTinNH]

... allowing others to have a different opinion without name calling and rudeness. Its all about respect.

Personally, I would like ALL information - both good and bad. If there is a negative trend, its much better to catch it early. The power of the internet lies in its ability to let people share experiences and compare. If people are afraid to share, then that power is lost. One bad post followed by 50 great experiences has little power. One bad post followed by 50 others agreeing, shows a problem that should most likely be addressed.

I agree with Tagel. All information can be valuable. If we get to the point where no one feels that they can honestly express themselves, we all lose.

 

[sgtpet]

I couldn't agree more with the thoughts of this thread.

Its ironic that some people that appreciate the other point of view on this thread have had some heated battles with me when I have been perceived as being "negative".

 

[Disneyjosh229]

Im not a DVC owner, but came to these boards to check it out. I think DVC is PERFECT if you love to go to Disney. Don't get me wrong, Disney is wonderfull, but I dont allways want to go there on vacation. Please dont flame me, im just sharing my honest opinon!!

 

[manning]

There is one disadvantage to the written word or phrase. It lacks reflection.

An exact spoken phrase can be taken several different ways depending on the tone it was expressed.

 

[Jamesbyr]

Did anyone ever do a survey of who posts the most negative reports? I mean is it the daytime stay-at-home Moms, or the notorious DVC owners (ike me),or the people who try to do the family gettogether thing, or the ones who come in the summer!!! Who??

We came in April. These boards were FILLED with specualation about crowd expectations. DISers posted charts to predict crowd sizes! NO ONE calculated school groups. There were groups of 40 kids, with nice T-shirts, in line for STICH! They were all over the MK that day.

The Boards are not always right. Some of them are just people obsessed with their own issues, who do not care who is is front of them in that check-in line. They want that view, and they will do what they can to get it. Including whining here.

The rest of us go with the flow.

 

[SoCalKDG]

I believe its the tone of negative posts that bother many people. Two of the tones that occasionally tempt me to come back with a snide remark are the "holier than thou" people and the "entitlement" people. When I see something negative from posters that are usually positive(and vice-versa), that is written well, I take an extra interest in the post.

 

[Disney Doll]

I agree with the OP that I don't mind hearing negatives. I don't expect the DVC to be perfect, and I like to go in being "aware" of what's happening with the program. Thus far, my personal experience has been very good overall...I have had very few truly negative experiences. I do still like to know what others have experienced and how their diffculty transpired. Gives me the opportunity to be able to nip something in the bud if I see a situation that I am involved in starting down that same negative road that another DISer has experienced.

That being said, I also think that there are folks who always have a negative experience because they have unrealistic expectations. I find those folks annoying. They are the folks who complain that there was a small spot on their couch. Hello! You can think it's your home away from home but the bottom line is that it is a hotel room where 55,000 other people have stayed, not all of them as fastidious as you, and there is going to be wear and tear. Unless you want your dues to be $100,00/year, don't expect a couch to be replaced when there is a spot on it.
They are the people who say "I paid a lot of money for DVC and I expect..." Newsflash...we all paid a lot of money for DVC. The folks that say "I didn't know that you lost points
if you didn't use them or bank them. No one told me." Well, you signed a contract which you should have read.

Those are the folks that are annoying, and they are usually the ones that get attacked.

 

[dianeschlicht]

(snip) I also think that there are folks who always have a negative experience because they have unrealistic expectations. I find those folks annoying. They are the folks who complain that there was a small spot on their couch. Hello! You can think it's your home away from home but the bottom line is that it is a hotel room where 55,000 other people have stayed, not all of them as fastidious as you, and there is going to be wear and tear. Unless you want your dues to be $100,00/year, don't expect a couch to be replaced when there is a spot on it.
They are the people who say "I paid a lot of money for DVC and I expect..." Newsflash...we all paid a lot of money for DVC. The folks that say "I didn't know that you lost points
if you didn't use them or bank them. No one told me." Well, you signed a contract which you should have read.

Those are the folks that are annoying, and they are usually the ones that get attacked.

I agree Disney Doll.

 

[Cruelladeville]

Puleeze! You are all so sweet this morning that my back teeth are aching. Seriously, I am enjoying all the nice negative posts about negative posters I have to say that I get irritated about the people who flame DVC because the coffee table in the living room had a scratch on it OK, it was a long scratch, but, still, that's over the top for me. Nevertheless, the posters have the right to say it--I won't be inviting those people over to my house,though, they would notice my cobwebs, I'm sure. Some things that are said are still necessary and valuable if you want to give a balanced picture of DVC to those who want info. I love my DVC to death so I am not unbiased enough to give both sides to owning. The negative posters do give the opposite view of ownership (even if I feel like hitting them )

 

[lllovell]

It depends on the "negative" comments in the original post IMHO. If someone truly doesn't like a resort and the reasons are purely about taste, then say so and don't act as though DVC has done you a dis-service by building a resort that isn't to your liking. They build them all differently for a reason!

I am still a "new" owner (only one official DVC trip under my belt) and I will tell you that after I bought into SSR, I found these boards (and one other on yahoo) and they made me physically ILL!!! All I saw were posts about how awful it was and how you couldn't get around and how how it was too spread out and how the restaurant/pool/boat (you name it) are NEVER EVER going to be able to handle peak crowds. UGH! After several days of reading, I finally QUIT READING anything to do with SSR until hubby and I could get down there and take the tour (we bought in sight unseen). OMG - its beautiful! Are we maybe a "less formal" family than the feel of SSR, maybe. Will it effect our trips there in the future? LMAO NOT IN A MILLION YEARS! We have stayed at OKW (took our first trip there to be with friends and family instead of "going home") but I can't wait until my first trip "home" in December.

Would it shock you to know that even after buying into DVC, that I have never even laid eyes on VWL or BCV and have only been to the boardwalk area ONCE (which was on our first trip down)? I can't wait for a chance to try out all the different hotels, but if SSR changes the balance (as many fear it will - simply based on speculation not any know facts) and I can never get a ressie anywhere else but SSR, then I am one happy camper!

So, the negative posts show me that there are realistic sides to DVC (which I never thought there weren't). We have rented houses for YEARS in Florida for annual vacations, and some are nicer than others, some years the same house will be in need of repairs, some years its newly renovated. However, if I had found these boards BEFORE I bought into SSR, I might have NEVER made that purchase. That is the price of negative posting to me. I do call someone out if they are "bashing" ANY resort. I would also call you out for saying things about someone here or in the real world. I don't believe in not speaking my mind. I can also handle it if you don't agree with me. I am a big girl!

 

[Granny]

I have indicated many times before that I like to hear the good, the bad, the ugly and the magical about DVC. These boards have improved my ownership experience so much as people share their experiences and tips, and also pitfalls. I am forever grateful to those who helped me when I was considering membership a few years ago.

As for the negative posts, I think there are some buzz words that will get people's hackles up every time.

To describe a place as a dump, or second rate will clearly bring responses. Also, to question why people would ever want to own at a resort is going to bring a lot of people who will tell you exactly why they want to own there.

In general, I find the threads here to be informative and interesting. Those that aren't are not very difficult to skip over!