Need some tips for haggling prices on a new car

Dopey Sharon

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I've never bought a brand new car and I'm seriously considering buying a new Toyota Corolla.

Our local dealership is having a sale, tomorrow. Is the end of the month a good time to buy a car? Would the end of the year be a better time?

I need some tips on how to go about getting the best deal I can.

Thanks!
 
Try www.carbuyingtips.com for some tips. I haven't bought a car on my own, but here's some of the advice I've heard ...

- Find out the true invoice price, so you know how much the dealer is paying for the car.
- Find out about any incentives or holdbacks on the car, so you can ask the dealer to apply those
- If the dealer says they can't go any lower, get up as if to leave ... they can usually go a bit lower than what they say is their "lowest offer".
- If all else fails, mention a competitor ... for example, the Corolla is in the same class as the Honda Civic. Just mention "Well, I was also thinking about the Honda Civic, and it seems a little more affordable. Can you do anything about that?"
- Shop for total price, not monthly payments
- Take a friend with you that's experienced in car buying. (if possible)

End of the month is a pretty good time to go car shopping, the end of the year may be slightly better, but you should be able to get a pretty good deal at the end of the month.
 
Try www.edmunds.com. DH and I use that site every time we go to buy a new car. It hasn't failed us yet. We bought both our cars at rock bottom prices.
 
What I've done is find out all of the pricing for the precise car I want...this should be dealer cost. Then I add a couple hundred cor comission and tell them that I will buy that car at that price. If they don't like it, I leave. I' haven't ever left a dealrship without a car for my price while using this tactic. When Beetles were new, I payed 17k for mine while others were paying around 20k for the same thing.
 

Sometimes it is good just to walk away for a few days, and see if they'll call you with a better price.

A lot of dealers have their cars online and you could browse through Toyota Corollas by their invoice number. It's also good to look at their competitor's web sites, and maybe you can find a better deal there or tell your salesman that a lower price can be found at this other dealership.

End of the month seems like a good time, because some car rebates expire. Corolla is a nice car. Been driving my Geo Prism (sister of the Corolla) for 12 years and 205,000 miles.

SC
 
I bought a new car via emails to dealers and paid about $3000 less than nayone else was paying. Look at Edmunds, in the Town Hall Forums. There should be a discussion group for your specific model. You'll see there what prices people are paying.
 
I agree that Edmunds.com is the place to look. I got great hints there and was able to find the invoice price of my new car and get a great deal. I would check with several dealers if I was you. It helps to have several offers.
Best of luck. I almost bought a Toyota Camry but decided on the Honda Accord instead (its a GREAT car!).
 
All this information is excellent, but I have one more thing to add. We just bought our new SUV, and I had three different (4 including a dealer in NJ!) outbidding eachother. What I did was send them an email equipped with the information that I found on the lists above. Most car dealers have internet sales departments now, and you don't even have to work with them in person (perhaps on the phone a few times!)

We ended up getting our car for almost $3,000 BELOW INVOICE!!!

Good luck!!
 
Another thing to check dealers for the same car in a town close by. My parents found that driving 30 minutes away saved them a lot of money on their cars. We have had corollas and camrys for years and they are great cars.

My DH is the car haggler in our family. I won't go with him any more. We joke and say he can't go back to the Nisan place in town anymore. He dealed with them for four hours and they wouldn't come to his price so he left without buying. Our van that we bought was with a dealer that was offering $200 below invoice and he didn't enjoy buying it because he couldn't haggle with them. It took the fun out of it. It is now time to buy again and I will go and look but when it is time to buy he is on his own.
 
I did that years ago when I bought my Escort wagon. Walked in with the check, said I will give you this amt and not a penny over. Still had to do some haggling, but in the end got it for my price. The sales manager chased us down as we were leaving and said the car is yours.


Originally posted by treesinger
What I've done is find out all of the pricing for the precise car I want...this should be dealer cost. Then I add a couple hundred cor comission and tell them that I will buy that car at that price. If they don't like it, I leave. I' haven't ever left a dealrship without a car for my price while using this tactic. When Beetles were new, I payed 17k for mine while others were paying around 20k for the same thing.
 
Great sites and tips, all of these. Another to check, similar to Edmunds, is Kelley Blue Book, sort of a standard, as is Edmunds. Do not get hassle nor influenced by extras the dealer wants to add on...sealants, 'gold' packages, pin striping, etc. Tell them you will not pay for them, you want a car without them or if already on, no charge, their loss.

Good pricing example. My MIL is geting a Hyundai Elantra. List price is $14,639, invoice is $13,513, there is a $2,000 rebate, selling price is $11,650, plus tax.
 
Also, if you're a member of AAA, you can go to their website and find AAA approved car dealers and supposedly they don't give you a hard time like typical car salespeople! Good luck!!
 
Thanks, guys! I just spent over three hours reading the site carbuyingtips and learned quite a bit! I copied, printed out and took notes...I'm all set to go shopping now! :D
 
Remember that a dealer rarely rarely RARELY buys the car at invoice, some people THINK they bought the car at invoice or below, but I promise you that 99% of the time they really didn't. A dealer NEVER pays invoice, because they buy in lots of more than one car. A Corolla is a very popular car, therefore, they buy tons of them and pay WELL below invoice on them. However, if you can get them as low as what invoice is listed at, you'll get a pretty good deal - but don't be fooled into thinking they're not making any money off of it.

- never talk payments... that's what they want to talk, because they get you there. ONLY talk sticker price.

- if you can, obtain financing from an outside source before hand. If you deal with financing AND the bottom line, they will get you in there somewhere. THe only way you really know you got a good deal, or have the upper hand, is when you walk in financing in hand, only to talk about the sticker price. Though many dealerships offer really low interest rates, it's often not worth saving that extra point from your local bank or credit union because they will get you somewhere in between to make up for that low rate.

- never deal with a trade in. NOT worth it. Again, just another way they get you...

- be prepared to walk away. If they know you're prepared to do that, and WILL, they often will keep going down. Often they will call you the next day or so and offer you a better deal

- End of the year is better to buy... once they get the new year models out, they are itching to clear their lot of the 2004's and will wheel and deal. I bought 2 cars in October, and got 7-8k off the sticker on both of them. Just because I bought when my car was sitting next to the next year models car... they wanted to get rid of mine. If you can afford to wait, you'll often find yourself getting a better deal in the fall. But if you can't, you can wait until end of the month

- I have never found the big sales that car lots advertise to be real sales at all. There is usually a catch... don't let an advertised sale force you into making a visit if you aren't ready. It's usually a gimmick to get people there in droves... plus you dont get as good of service when there are mobs of people.

- bring someone exp'd with you. Believe me, they know who has done this before and who hasn't. It's best to have someone there to speak for you and understand what they're saying... I think they talk in riddles very quickly to hope you dont catch everything =)

- dont buy into the extra packages and junk. Those options are a big way dealers earn extra money. If you dont want it on the car, refuse to buy it... if they refuse to get you one without, then tell them they can remove it from the pricing, or you'll go elsewhere. My sis dealt with this with a HOnda place that stuck a $900 package on EVERY car that came off the truck - they told her she didn't have a choice, even went so far as to tell her that Honda was making them do it! YEAH RIGHT! Thankfully, I went with her and told her that was a load of bull and to walk away until we did more research. On our way to WDW couple of weeks ago, we stopped at several Honda places on the way and in Orlando and told them the story we were told... they all laughed in our face! Told us that is NOT Honda mandated, and the dealer was hoping we had stupid written on our head. Needless to say, she's NOT buying from them, regardless of what they were offering her. SHe didn't even like the package!

- try to act like you can take or leave the car. Too many people get stuck on a car, and its written all over your face... try to hold back your excitement and act as if you still arent sure about it, and you arent that taken with it... Make them know they're gonna have to really fight for your sale.

You'll know pretty quickly whether or not the dealership wants to sell cars. If they do, they'll offer you something pretty good right off the bat. If they dont, they'll offer you a stinky first offer. Toyota dealerships are found everywhere, dont stay iwth a dealership that seems to not care about selling you a car. Drive up the road to another one - and let them know you're going to do that. DOn't be afraid to be upfront and somewhat aggressive. Certainly not rude, just firm and confident. Another reason why to bring an exp car buyer with you... they will often know which things are BS and which arent. Car dealers are SMOOTH talkers.

I wish you MUCH LUCK in your buying exp, and hope its a good one. Let us know how it all goes!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well, I just got back. I bought a 2004 Corolla. I got it below invoice and at 2.9% financing. The cheapest financing I could find was online at Capitol One and they were 3.85%. I ended up leaving the first dealership. In the middle of negotiating, my salesman leaned over, looked out the window and said, "That sign out there doesn't have Goodwill on it, it says Toyota"! I just looked at him, looked at my daughter and got up and walked out. The sales manager saw us leaving and asked how everything was going. I told him he should have a meeting with his salespeople and what not to say to customers who come in there to buy a car. I told him what the salesman said to me and that I didn't appreciate being talked to that way...etc. He sat down with us and continued talking, but there was no way I was buying a car from them. I went to another dealership, they matched the price and he was very nice.

I pick it up tomorrow. I ended up trading in my car. I know I could have gotten more for it, selling it myself, but this way it's done and over with.

I can't believe I just bought a new car! :Pinkbounc
 
Congratulations! I'm sure you will love your new car.
 
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!

I'm so glad you had the guts to walk out of there like that! I wish more people would do that when a car dealer became obnoxious. I hope he learned his lesson =)

I hope you love it!
 
Sharon,
first, Congratulations!!! Second, hey-- you bought a car on my birthday! I was just at the Toyota dealer on Saturday. I think our "local" Toyota and Honda dealers get so much business that they don't care whether or not we buy a car from them (as crazy as THAT sounds!)
I've been reading Edmunds.com for months. I hope it helps when I'm finally ready to deal!:yo-yo:
 
Dopey Sharon,

I walked out on a guy who was really arrogant one time too. On my way out he said, "don't be embarassed to come back." I said, this will be the last place I buy from and left. I never went back. :)

Good for you and enjoy!
 





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