Need help from Professors of DDP

Honeymo78:

I can't believe it! :yay: What good news. I thought all character meals were "signature" dining experiences.

Thank you so much! That helps so much.

Terri
 
The only character meal that I can think of that is signature is CRT with the princesses. Maybe the norway one is too but I might be wrong there.

Now you'd only have to pay for 3 people OOP at Crystal Palace and still be able to pay with credits at Kona. Although Kona might end up cheaper per person than CP. If you think each person will spend less than $20 before tax and tip at Kona you might end up with a better deal if you pay for all 5 people with credits at CP and then pay for 3 meals at Kona OOP, especially if you have some people in your party who might not eat as much. Probably the difference won't end up being much so maybe just do whatever is easiest for you. But I'm glad we got that cleared up in advance :)
 
Dori's Twin ~ I feel for you. It took me over 3 weeks to peruse thru menus, note prices and decide whether DDP is a savings for us!

We too have a teen who eats adult amount but not neccessarily has adult taste in food so the TS credit vs OOP cost was a real pain in the neck.

However, what was a real factor for us was our "touring and eating style".
We all like big breakfast but DH & I never eat early, unlike DD who needs food immediately upon rising. But most buffets are Character meals which are not a draw for us.
We also plan on being at every EMH to take advantage of getting the big rides in before general public. That decision alone kind of eliminated the TS breakfasts for us (and since cheapest of TS meals also reaped more value from DDP)
So we decided on doing only ONE buffet character breakfast and breakfast at Kona (MUST have Tonga Toast!), paying both OOP. Both are scheduled at 11 am allowing us to get a few EMH rides in beforehand. Eating late will probably eliminate need for lunch so we will use snack credits to hold us over and I scheduled early dinner those nights.

What we're doing with the CS credits: DD is using 1 CS to get her full breakfast and we will use 2 snack credits just to throw something in our stomache with our usual mucho coffee consumption.
Then at lunch (for our family of 3) we have 2 CS + 1 snack left. We made note of the many places that seem to serve large portions to assure we have enough to share.
This also matches our touring style because we tend to park hop and can spontaneously choose where & when to feed around our ride schedule.

As far as dinner - again we chose according to which park we would be in and themes our family would enjoy rather than $$ value. We too chose Prime Time and a World Showcase restaurant then we saved up credits for Hoop Dee Doo (2TS each) by eating one dinner @ CS the night prior (we have those extra CS from days we skipped lunch).

So just wanted to illustrate how important it is to consider what you will be DOING and WHEN as part of your DDP consideration. We didn't want to get so focused on the $$ savings that it changed our theme park activities.
Of course, with such a large family you have a much bigger task figuring that out than I did! Best of luck. :goodvibes
 
GoodoldPal:

Very well said! It is initially a lot of work but the planning is great for me because I won't be wondering if I'm using the credits right.

I think I've got the swing of it now.

Did you go through all the menus and project what your family would eat?
Well I did, my kids are predictable. That is how I know that Kona Cafe is probably a little more expensive than Crystal Palace. But I figured in the Kona pressed coffee.($7+)

One character breakfast is enough for us. This time we're traveling with
my DB and SIL and their 7 & 8 year olds who have never been to Disney.
Our character breakfast is scheduled for opening so we'll get into the park before the others. I'm hoping we'll finish in time. It's worked in the past.

But one of these days my DD and I are going to have breakfast in the castle!

Off topic a little:
I have a question on the refillable mugs? Angelmav mentioned them.
They can only be used in the hotel right? Are they considered a snack item?
Can you refill them any where other than the hotel. I did a search but everyone seemed to be talking about whether you can use them again on a future trip to the same hotel.

Thanks again everyone for the thoughtful input.

Terri
 

The mugs are only good at your hotel and cost about $12 so you can't use a snack credit on them. They make great coffee, water, or whatever mugs once you get home.
 
<sigh> After my long post re: pros, cons, DDE vs DDP, I realized I misread the DDE info. I mistakenly thought that Counter service was included, but it is not. :confused3 So....

Scratch plans for DDE, and go with DDP! :thumbsup2 Looks like dessert for breakfast for a couple of days! :cool1:

I like GOODoldPAL's suggestion about using the occasional snack credit for a breakfast item. That would be all I'd need, really, for breakfast, and DD could use a CS credit to have her beloved Mickey waffles. Then we could use 'my' CS credits to split some lunches, like at the food court at the Land. *HUGE* portions for sandwiches.

Now I don't have to worry about waiting the 6 weeks for the DDE card to arrive (especially since we're 7 weeks out!).
 
kgkmom said:
Scratch plans for DDE, and go with DDP! :thumbsup2 Looks like dessert for breakfast for a couple of days! :cool1:
I like GOODoldPAL's suggestion about using the occasional snack credit for a breakfast item. That would be all I'd need, really, for breakfast, and DD could use a CS credit to have her beloved Mickey waffles. Then we could use 'my' CS credits to split some lunches, like at the food court at the Land. *HUGE* portions for sandwiches.

Check out the threads for "using snack credits for breakfast" - I started one and so did someone else. Our fellow DISsers were extremely helpful (as usual) in suggesting breakfast type foods.
We are staying at POP and they have a great snack credit selection like cinammon rolls, muffins, box of donuts etc.

There are also a few threads on meal portions and sharing food that include CS choices.
So thank you but I share the credit for the good idea with all the peep who helped me make the decision on how to best use our DDP. :grouphug:

BTW ~ We love good food and look forward to trying stuff @ World Showcase and our TS ressies. But realistically, we'll be logging alot of miles over 10 days in WDW so mostly, we just want decent tasting food that will keep us fueled!
:car:
 
Just a couple of notes. I don't think I saw answers to a few of the questions you asked. Also, some unsolicited advise.

First, no one's going to ping you for posting your actual cost estimates. That's not a violation of board rules or ettiquete. In fact, it's helpful to see other's math on these things when making your own decisions. (It also helps others to see if there's a flaw in your calculations and make recommendations.)

You mentioned that some of your party want to be on the plan and others don't. This will only work if everyone who wants to be on the plan is on one reservation (in the same room) and everyone who doesn't want to be on the plan is on another reservation (in other room(s)). Disney's DDP rules state that everyone on a package reservation must have the exact same package. If selecting the DDP, it must be for every person on the reservation for every night of the reservation. Also keep in mind that the DDP is accessed using your Key to the Kingdom. This has your room key, DDP, park ticket, and room charging (if selected at check-in) all on the same card. Each person gets one and they have the name printed on them.

Just want to make sure you understand the flexibility of the DDP. While you receive one TS, one CS, and one snack for every night of your reservation, you can use those credits any way you choose from the time you check in until midnight on the day you check out. You don't have to use them one each day.

You also don't have to use your credits so that each person uses their exact number of credits. If someone in your party gets hungry faster than someone else, let them use an extra snack credit or an extra CS credit.

Believe me, we're not kidding when we say the DDP is a lot of food. I'm a big, big eater. Even so, we had trouble using all our credits by the end of the trip. Many others will tell you they've had similar experiences. TS are easy to plan because you have to make the ADRs. CS and snacks can build up. (We'd usually split a CS meal between us because we were still so full from a TS meal. That left us with an extra CS to split as a late night snack or as a breakfast. Even so, after two weeks on the DDP, we had 8 CS credits and 10 snack credits to try to use between us in the last three days.

You asked about room service. Room service is now available with the DDP, but ony if you're staying in a deluxe resort. Room service costs two TS credits. (Ouch!)

A snack can go a long way. The resort gift shops have already been mentioned. At Saratoga Springs Resort, there was a little grocery area. A bag of 6 bagels, a box of donuts, a family-size bag of chips, were all great uses of a snack credit. They lasted all week. In the parks, french fries or onion rings are often available for a snack credit.

We like the DDP more because it allows (forces) us to try new TS restaurants. If we weren't on the plan, we would probably eat many more CS meals. We also like having everything paid for up front, and not having to worry about running up a bill that will be too much to handle after we get home. Of course, we have a small budget for OOP things, but the majority of the food bill is already covered.

Another benefit of the DDP if you have older kids who will be doing some of the theme parks on their own, is that you can let them use their DDP credits without having to put room charging on their room key or having them carry cash to buy their own meals or snacks.

Keep track of what credits are being used, how many are left, and how you plan to use them. Each time you purchase something on the DDP, your receipt will show how many credits are left -- but only for that type of credit. For example, a TS receipt will only show how many TS credits you have left. Your resort concierge, however, can print you a full listing of where you've used every credit that's been used and how many credits total you have left.

If you're looking at the DDP for purely economical reasons, there's an important thing to keep in mind. The DDP will difinitely save you money if you plan to eat in at least one TS restaurant each day, and if you plan to order the amount of food offered on the plan. For example, the DDP gives you an appetizer, entree, and dessert for each person. If you were going to a restaurant without the plan, would you order an appetizer, entree, and dessert for each person? Would you maybe skips appetizers or share one for the table?

My #1 DDP tip: When ordering a drink at a CS as part of a meal or when using a snack credit to get a drink, always specify the largest size available. If you don't specify a size, they'll usually automatically give you a regular instead of a large. Say, "I'll have a large coke," instead of, "I'll have a coke."

An alternate to the DDP to look at is the Disney Dining Experience (DDE). This is available to Florida residents and annual pass holders only. You have to buy the DDE at $60 for one year. However, it gives you 20% off the entire check (booze and all) at select restaurants. If you're just looking at the DDP for budget purposes instead of the other benefits it offers, DDE is something to check out. It may be the better deal. Only one person in your group needs to have a DDE card (so long as they're going to be present at the meals, you'll be paying on a sigle check, and don't have more than 10 people). Do the math. It would require upgrading one of your park tickets to an annual pass, then buying the DDE card. (You can upgrade the ticket you get as part of your Magic Your Way package to an annual pass by simply paying the difference between the two ticket costs once you get to a theme park.) You can only purchase the DDE by phone is the only wrinkle. I don't know how long after calling it takes before you can pick up your temporary card. See this link for more details on the DDE and a list of restaurants where it's accepted. (We've done DDP twice, and will be trying DDE on our next trip for comparison purposes. Many DISers swear by it.)
 
kgkmom said:
<sigh> After my long post re: pros, cons, DDE vs DDP, I realized I misread the DDE info. I mistakenly thought that Counter service was included, but it is not. :confused3
DDE is accepted only at certain restaurants. It isn't based on TS vs CS. There's a full list here. While these are mostly TS restaurants, there are a few resort food courts (CS on DDP) that accept DDE.
 
Dori's Twin said:
Off topic a little:
I have a question on the refillable mugs? Angelmav mentioned them.
They can only be used in the hotel right? Are they considered a snack item?
Can you refill them any where other than the hotel. I did a search but everyone seemed to be talking about whether you can use them again on a future trip to the same hotel.
You cannot purchase the refillable mugs using DDP credits, they must be purchased OOP. They can only be refilled at your resort, and only for the length of the stay when they were purchased.

If you purchase a CS meal at your resort's food court, it will still come with a drink. We usually got a bottle of soda, juice, or water as part of the CS meal. We'd save that for later (in the parks) and use the refillable mug to get a drink to have with the meal. The mugs are also great when you're hanging out at the pool. (SSR was nice because they have a second refill location at the pool.) It's also great to grab your mug and get a soda when you're coming back in from the parks. (So long as you get back before the food court closes, that is.)
 
BirdsOfPreyDave said:
DDE is accepted only at certain restaurants. It isn't based on TS vs CS. There's a full list here. While these are mostly TS restaurants, there are a few resort food courts (CS on DDP) that accept DDE.

Quite right-although for us, the DDE plan would have been to eat mostly CS type restaurants in the parks, and then TS 1-2 times at EPCOT. None of the quick service places in the parks are on Deb's list. The food courts, yes, but not the parks.

So, we'll do the DDP and try to use some snacks for breakfast, and split some CS credits for lunches. We'll probably still end up with credits left over! I think our last trip left us with 2CS credits.
 
I still feel a little :crazy: :crazy: I have spent four months trying to figure this out :surfweb: and still don't have it down pat. We are a family of 4 and have the following ADRs. We are only doing the DDP during our 5 night stay at SSR. We also have a day at the beginning and a day at the end but chose not to add the DDP to these two ressies. Figured we would have more than enough CS to cover our last ressie and would be cheaper to pay OOP for the first one.

Sat - Chef Mickey's - OOP (this the night we arrive before we start the DDP)
Sun - 1900 Park Fare (1TS)
Mon - Concourse (1TS)
Tues - CRT - before MVMCP (2TS)
Wed - CS saved from previous days to cover lunch and dinner if needed
Thurs - Coral Reef (1TS)
Fri - anything that is left over or OOP as we are not driving home till Saturday

The DDP is costing $625 and with printing out the menus for our ADRs and chosing possibilities, our TS meals come to a total of about $770. Now I have read some reports where people posted things I did not see on the allears menus so we'll have to see. I still think the DDP will be a big plus for us.
 
thedears said:
I still feel a little :crazy: :crazy: I have spent four months trying to figure this out :surfweb: and still don't have it down pat. We are a family of 4 and have the following ADRs. We are only doing the DDP during our 5 night stay at SSR. We also have a day at the beginning and a day at the end but chose not to add the DDP to these two ressies. Figured we would have more than enough CS to cover our last ressie and would be cheaper to pay OOP for the first one.

Sat - Chef Mickey's - OOP (this the night we arrive before we start the DDP)
Sun - 1900 Park Fare (1TS)
Mon - Concourse (1TS)
Tues - CRT - before MVMCP (2TS)
Wed - CS saved from previous days to cover lunch and dinner if needed
Thurs - Coral Reef (1TS)
Fri - anything that is left over or OOP as we are not driving home till Saturday

The DDP is costing $625 and with printing out the menus for our ADRs and chosing possibilities, our TS meals come to a total of about $770. Now I have read some reports where people posted things I did not see on the allears menus so we'll have to see. I still think the DDP will be a big plus for us.

Do you have a room-only reservation for your first & last night?
 
jjohnson said:
Do you have a room-only reservation for your first & last night?


yes, but we have 7 day park hopper tickets. Is it possible to add the DDP to the two extra days?
 
thedears said:
yes, but we have 7 day park hopper tickets. Is it possible to add the DDP to the two extra days?

It is but not worth it, IMHO, if you have to purchase a one day ticket for each guest.

Not to confuse you...but you could add another day at SSR & pay cash. Then have the ressie's linked so you could have the DP and not have to switch resorts.
 
jjohnson said:
It is but not worth it, IMHO, if you have to purchase a one day ticket for each guest.

Not to confuse you...but you could add another day at SSR & pay cash. Then have the ressie's linked so you could have the DP and not have to switch resorts.


we were going to add the first night at SSR but when the one night ressie was half of what we paid for the FIVE night ressie we decided to go value but thanks for the info. Think we'll stick to the OOP for CM on the 9th and take the chance of either left over CS or OOP for the 15th.
 
Thanks Dave for all the great insight!

I hope you saw my question in a seperate post about DDP's and large groups.
I'm concerned about the confusion a large group may cause with keeping track of the credits. We'll all be split up at tables since we can't get us all together at one table. Maybe you can check this post out and give some suggestions.

It's too early in the morning to remember my post title but I think it something like "DDP with a large group."

Best Wishes,
DT
 
thedears said:
we were going to add the first night at SSR but when the one night ressie was half of what we paid for the FIVE night ressie we decided to go value but thanks for the info. Think we'll stick to the OOP for CM on the 9th and take the chance of either left over CS or OOP for the 15th.
Keep in mind that your dining plan credits are good until Midnight on the day you check out. So, you'll be able to use any remaining credits on Friday. But don't save anything for breakfast on Saturday, they'll have expired.
 














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