NCL goes All Inclusive on one ship. Cruise competition heating up?

NCL just announced via email that one of their older ships, the Sky, is going All Inclusive when it comes to drinks. Everyone over 18 on board automatically gets the free alcoholic drink package. Could be interesting to see the cruise industry get into a "perk war".

http://www.ncl.com/cruise-ship/sky?...O_EML_hero_EML_SHIPSKY_SKY092915_NA#inclusive

Ahh that makes more sense...this is from NCL's All Inclusive FAQ:

"
Is beer and wine included for guests between the ages of 18 and 20?
Yes. Young adults between the ages of 18 and 20 can consume wine and beer only while onboard and with the consent of an accompanying parent.
"

Hmm, free booze isn't my idea of all-inclusive. I want inclusive internet, specialty coffee and specialty dining too. As it stands, that just sounds like a huge booze cruise. :)

EXACTLY!!! Sounds more like a nightmare than a vacation! Especially adding on that 18 to 20 year olds are going to be able to drink too???!!!! Great!! Said no one ever!!
 
EXACTLY!!! Sounds more like a nightmare than a vacation! Especially adding on that 18 to 20 year olds are going to be able to drink too???!!!! Great!! Said no one ever!!
On NCL a parent or guardian(read: NOT a friend, cousin, etc.) can sign a form allowing their 18-20 yro to be served wine and beer. It's not exactly an underage drinking free-for-all. ((FYI-DCL offers a similar option for European sailings....not to mention that both my son & niece were offered cocktails at the Captain's Reception on the Fantasy at 16/17 yrs old)) "Great! Said no one ever!" Not true. Great! <--I said that. My sons said that, too. Yet another thing to be super excited about for our b2b NCL Escape cruises in May. ;)
 
EXACTLY!!! Sounds more like a nightmare than a vacation! Especially adding on that 18 to 20 year olds are going to be able to drink too???!!!! Great!! Said no one ever!!

Not every country has the antiquated alcohol laws of the US. In Canada, some provinces the drinking age is 18, and the highest in any province is 19. For me, I'd like see them lift the "beer and wine only" restriction.
 
Not every country has the antiquated alcohol laws of the US. In Canada, some provinces the drinking age is 18, and the highest in any province is 19. For me, I'd like see them lift the "beer and wine only" restriction.
Agree. You can get married, vote, and join the military but you're not old enough to enjoy alcohol. It doesn't make sense.

I also wouldn't have an issue with them lifting the beer and wine only restriction. Since you have to have a parent or guardian on the cruise to allow it, I don't see a problem!
 

Agree. You can get married, vote, and join the military but you're not old enough to enjoy alcohol. It doesn't make sense.

I also wouldn't have an issue with them lifting the beer and wine only restriction. Since you have to have a parent or guardian on the cruise to allow it, I don't see a problem!
Well, also there's the fact that an 18-20 yro cannot be booked at all in a room that doesn't have a person 21 yrs old booked with them. Totally irritating when booking our 18 & 20 yro sons in an inside stateroom near our balcony room.
 
On NCL a parent or guardian(read: NOT a friend, cousin, etc.) can sign a form allowing their 18-20 yro to be served wine and beer. It's not exactly an underage drinking free-for-all. ((FYI-DCL offers a similar option for European sailings....not to mention that both my son & niece were offered cocktails at the Captain's Reception on the Fantasy at 16/17 yrs old)) "Great! Said no one ever!" Not true. Great! <--I said that. My sons said that, too. Yet another thing to be super excited about for our b2b NCL Escape cruises in May. ;)
I wasn't there when your son and niece were offered cocktails but I do know that they have NON alcoholic options that they offer at the Captain's Gala. Maybe that is what they were offered but they were unaware that there were nonalcoholic varieties? Maybe...maybe not. As I said I wasn't there. But I do know that they have nonalcoholic drinks at the Captain's Gala, so *I* would not assume they were offered alcohol. Disney is pretty careful about that stuff.
 
I wasn't there when your son and niece were offered cocktails but I do know that they have NON alcoholic options that they offer at the Captain's Gala. Maybe that is what they were offered but they were unaware that there were nonalcoholic varieties? Maybe...maybe not. As I said I wasn't there. But I do know that they have nonalcoholic drinks at the Captain's Gala, so *I* would not assume they were offered alcohol. Disney is pretty careful about that stuff.
Nope. I was standing with them along with my husband & brother. We asked what was there and all accepted drinks. Only drinks on the tray were the leaded variety. The server moved the tray in front of them waiting for them to take one or decline. They declined. We found it pretty surprising. And funny.
 
It is interesting that you contently come here to point this out and have no first hand experience cruising on NCL only a few negative things that you read posted on CC.

You and a few others refer to this as "cut backs" while others would say that they(NCL) are redefining what you have to pay to cruise and what you want to pay for as an "upcharge". DCL offers Palo and Remi and NCL offers 5 -count them "upcharge" options in dining while charging a way lower base cruise fare.
absolutely true about the upcharge restaurants, but I've actually sailed on NCL and that ship (Jade) is about the same size as the Magic and Wonder and had 13 upcharge restaurants. And you had to use those because that was the only place on the ship that they had this thing call "SERVICE". It was non existent EVERYWHERE else on the ship unless you were pay NCL more money. And it's true that the price of the base cruise is way less than DCL - and you get what you don't pay for!!

We have found the staff on NCL to be just as friendly/good as DCL ( yes we have 13 DCL cruises under our belt),
The ONLY person we could make eye contact with on the 14 nights on NCL was the Cruise Director. Everyone else would advert their eyes and would do their best NOT to talk to any of us ( and IMHO - we're not that bad looking, and we brush our teeth at least twice a day, and wear clean, laundered cloths). The hostesses on NCL at the MDR's would take the 3 of us (one of is 6 foot 6 inches - and is hard to miss unless he turns sideways - skinny kid!) and tell us to stand an wait in the middle of the room and just leave us and never come back. 5 minutes later someone would ask us what we were doing there in their way (how dare us!) and then lead us to a table where 20 - 30 minutes later we MIGHT get some bread and/or water. Service = Nope and the food wasn't that good (DCL's MDR's is much better) those two things drove us to the upcharge restaurants.

the ships to be clean and well maintained.
Agreed - but I did notice that NOT ONE Chair, Couch or bench that I sat on during my NCL cruise was comfortable. And it appears to me that DCL actually has more Yellow Jumpsuit guys (and other colors) the Scrape, Paint and Varnish people working. Same for the Maintenance team: more on DCL and friendlier.


Both of our NCL cruises sailed full and all rooms sold out so with that being said it sure looks like NCL is doing something RIGHT.
Not for us. I would have loved to cruise the Hawaiian Islands with them but they were so bad that I don't think that we will be back

I will add one last thing ....We cruised with many families ( from our cruise meets group) that have cruised with DCL and ALL found that NCL offered a comparable experience/cruise.
WOW I didn't think that I could give NCL enough money to bring the experience up to what I get on DCL (and I am getting disappointed in DCL on many fronts, but not enough to go back to NCL).
 
The ONLY person we could make eye contact with on the 14 nights on NCL was the Cruise Director. Everyone else would advert their eyes and would do their best NOT to talk to any of us ( and IMHO - we're not that bad looking, and we brush our teeth at least twice a day, and wear clean, laundered cloths). The hostesses on NCL at the MDR's would take the 3 of us (one of is 6 foot 6 inches - and is hard to miss unless he turns sideways - skinny kid!) and tell us to stand an wait in the middle of the room and just leave us and never come back. 5 minutes later someone would ask us what we were doing there in their way (how dare us!) and then lead us to a table where 20 - 30 minutes later we MIGHT get some bread and/or water. Service = Nope and the food wasn't that good (DCL's MDR's is much better) those two things drove us to the upcharge restaurants.


Your service nightmare sounds about like what we experienced on the Wonder a year ago. It was straight up bad. It's the only time we didn't tip our servers additional. It does happen on Disney, too. Problem was that if we didn't go to our assigned dining time then our alternative options for dinner were extremely limited, especially when I was making efforts to eat lighter.

Sorry you had such a lousy experience. We just sailed the Getaway and our experience with service overall was on-par with the overall level we've had on Disney. Not discounting what you say. It's just bad experiences aren't limited to NCL. We've had horrible table service, indifferent/rude crew interactions, unclean or poorly kept rooms, etc. on Disney, too. And at Disney parks & resorts. None are perfect.
 
On NCL a parent or guardian(read: NOT a friend, cousin, etc.) can sign a form allowing their 18-20 yro to be served wine and beer. It's not exactly an underage drinking free-for-all. ((FYI-DCL offers a similar option for European sailings....not to mention that both my son & niece were offered cocktails at the Captain's Reception on the Fantasy at 16/17 yrs old)) "Great! Said no one ever!" Not true. Great! <--I said that. My sons said that, too. Yet another thing to be super excited about for our b2b NCL Escape cruises in May. ;)


That is ok as long as the 18-20 year old only drinks while with a parent or guardian but you don't see many wanting to hang around with their parents.

My daughter was asked for ID on the Magic in August...............she is 29! :rolleyes1
 
That is ok as long as the 18-20 year old only drinks while with a parent or guardian but you don't see many wanting to hang around with their parents.

My daughter was asked for ID on the Magic in August...............she is 29! :rolleyes1
Maybe an alternative for Disney would be allowing parents to buy drinks and give them to their young adults. That way parents/guardians are present.
 
We cruised with NcL this summer and I really felt "nickeled and dimed" this time. Everything seemed to be an "up charge" and it put me off cruising for a while!
 
(So in other words, I think this is a move in the right direction)
 
Ok, I've been trying and trying to figure out why there was no active thread about this on CC, and I almost started one until I took a close look at the date on that press release; it seems this news is from April.

Interesting! I didn't notice that - only posted it now as NCL put out an email announcement.
 
Not every country has the antiquated alcohol laws of the US. In Canada, some provinces the drinking age is 18, and the highest in any province is 19. For me, I'd like see them lift the "beer and wine only" restriction.

Laws vary greatly even within the US. Although the legal age is universally 21, the details vary. For example, in Texas, minors can be served alcohol (beer, wine, or liquor) by their parents, either in the home or even in a bar or restaurant. So allowing a beer/wine waiver for those 18-20 years old is not a relaxation of the rules, but is actually more restrictive in several ways, for people from Texas. There are many other states that have some form of allowing parents to serve their kids alcohol.
 
Laws vary greatly even within the US. Although the legal age is universally 21, the details vary. For example, in Texas, minors can be served alcohol (beer, wine, or liquor) by their parents, either in the home or even in a bar or restaurant. So allowing a beer/wine waiver for those 18-20 years old is not a relaxation of the rules, but is actually more restrictive in several ways, for people from Texas. There are many other states that have some form of allowing parents to serve their kids alcohol.

i lived in texas for 9 years and never heard of this
 
Laws vary greatly even within the US. Although the legal age is universally 21, the details vary. For example, in Texas, minors can be served alcohol (beer, wine, or liquor) by their parents, either in the home or even in a bar or restaurant. So allowing a beer/wine waiver for those 18-20 years old is not a relaxation of the rules, but is actually more restrictive in several ways, for people from Texas. There are many other states that have some form of allowing parents to serve their kids alcohol.
Yep. We live in Texas.
 
i lived in texas for 9 years and never heard of this
It's true. I got married when I was 19 yrs old. A veeeeeeeeery long time ago....... :scared: Even then, my husband who was 21 could serve me alcohol in bars & restaurants as long as I was with him. The servers could not. He had to give the drinks to me. We had margaritas or beer with dinner a few times before I was 21. Never really did bars. We have ordered and served our sons a few times at dinner. Some places really frown upon it and it is their right to discourage it. But, at home when we cook out or on special occasions our sons are allowed some drinks if they want it. My youngest rarely asks. Either way, they're supervised and learning to conduct themselves responsibly.
 
It's true. I got married when I was 19 yrs old. A veeeeeeeeery long time ago....... :scared: Even then, my husband who was 21 could serve me alcohol in bars & restaurants as long as I was with him. The servers could not. He had to give the drinks to me. We had margaritas or beer with dinner a few times before I was 21. Never really did bars. We have ordered and served our sons a few times at dinner. Some places really frown upon it and it is their right to discourage it. But, at home when we cook out or on special occasions our sons are allowed some drinks if they want it. My youngest rarely asks. Either way, they're supervised and learning to conduct themselves responsibly.

could it be a county thing? I lived in Houston and honestly never heard or saw this. not saying it didn't happen but just wondering if it was a state law or county thing?
 
could it be a county thing? I lived in Houston and honestly never heard or saw this. not saying it didn't happen but just wondering if it was a state law or county thing?
It's my understanding from lifelong resident relatives that it's a state thing but establishments are free to ask guests not to. I've lived in Harris & Galveston counties, both were fine. We recently discussed with some friends who are TX DPS (troopers) that currently live in the Austin area and they didn't say it wasn't so up there. I think it's a state thing. Pretty sure. I'll look it up.
 

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