NAACP and Vick

[Rozzie]

Guess it was a matter of time. I am trying very hard to respect his opinion, but don't agree with it, and never will. The biggest problem I have is where White doesn't see what the big fuss is over dog fighting. I just have this doesn't turn into a race thing bigger than it is. I personally think his career is all but over....

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html

 

[java]

"In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative press than if he would've killed a human being," White said. "The way he is being persecuted, he wouldn't have been persecuted that much had he killed somebody."

Um yes he would have. And let's not say well see he isn't so bad he could have killed a person. Disgusting all around.

 

[Rozzie]

"In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative press than if he would've killed a human being," White said. "The way he is being persecuted, he wouldn't have been persecuted that much had he killed somebody."

Um yes he would have. And let's not say well see he isn't so bad he could have killed a person. Disgusting all around.

Yeah, that was a pretty pitiful statement. What is so shocking, some people have no concern over the malicious intent Vick used toward these dogs. One thing is to get a gun and put a dog out of it's misery, another whole game to inflict pain and long suffering to another living thing.

Disgusting.

 

[flipflop]

"White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable"

Seriously?



In the future, should everyone be judged against the "he/she have been more persecuted than if he/she had killed someone" standard?

Laughable.

 

[Firedog]

I think the NAACP's R.L. White might be even more whacked than Vick is. Some of his statements included:

"At this point, you're not looking at guilt or innocence," White said, referring to the possible harsher sentence Vick could have received had he taken his case to trial and been found guilty. "You're thinking, 'What I better do is cut my losses and take a plea.' But if he saw this as the best thing to do at this point for his future, then I think he made the correct choice."

Um, excuse me, yes it is guilty or innocent. Is either right or wrong, black or white, yes or no. Don't try to water down the basic facts!

and also:

"White said he does not support dogfighting and that he considers it as bad as hunting. "

Comparing dog fighting to hunting? I don't think so, and you might have a few hundred thousand hunters agreeing with me.

I have always believed the NAACP does more harm than good.

 

[chyam]

The man is in the public eye, no matter if he killed a dog, or a human it would have been all over the news any which way. In his position he should have known that if the press got hold of it it would be major news! He can't be that damn stupid. And oh I do believe that the NAACP will stick their nose into it, no matter what they tend to always make a race issue out of anything, if it would have been Brett Farve it would have been all over the news too.........it is ILLEGAL and it is cruel. I am so sick of people trying to make race issues out of issues that are illegal no matter what color or what position in life you are.

 

[Youarehere]

"White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable."

Oh my. What an idiot. How do people with such limited thought proccesses get to be president of anything? I am embarrassed for the NAACP.

 

[chyam]

I think the NAACP's R.L. White might be even more whacked than Vick is. Some of his statements included:

"At this point, you're not looking at guilt or innocence," White said, referring to the possible harsher sentence Vick could have received had he taken his case to trial and been found guilty. "You're thinking, 'What I better do is cut my losses and take a plea.' But if he saw this as the best thing to do at this point for his future, then I think he made the correct choice."

Um, excuse me, yes it is guilty or innocent. Is either right or wrong, black or white, yes or no. Don't try to water down the basic facts!

and also:

"White said he does not support dogfighting and that he considers it as bad as hunting. "

Comparing dog fighting to hunting? I don't think so, and you might have a few hundred thousand hunters agreeing with me.

I have always believed the NAACP does more harm than good.

The thing is hunting is legal, it is regulated by the states (not that I totally agree with it) but it is done to keep the population of wildlife down, otherwise many would starve in the winter, and another thing killing with a gun or an arrow is usually quick, not torture like this man and his cohorts did to those dogs! I am a firm believer that he should have to endure the same sort of pain some of those dogs did...........not that I care all that much for pitbulls, but I do believe that animals have feelings and feel pain just like we do..........Some idiot at work said dog fighting is no worse than boxing.......duh, boxing requires two humans with brains who put themselves in the ring, no one is forcing them in there, and if they are stupid enough to allow themselves to be knocked senseless than that is THEIR choice, those dogs had no choice, either way win or lose sooner or later they lose their life.

 

[cardaway]

Did people think this was over just because he said he was guilty?

Just wait until he isn't allowed back in the league (if that is the way it goes down). That's when the crap will really hit the fan.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

"In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative press than if he would've killed a human being," White said. "The way he is being persecuted, he wouldn't have been persecuted that much had he killed somebody."

Um yes he would have. And let's not say well see he isn't so bad he could have killed a person. Disgusting all around.

I'll agree with him with this regard. If Vick had been out partying and got drunk, been in a car accident, and the result was the death of a human, I don't think the outcry would have been as bad. A lot of people have driven in this country when they know they shouldn't. There would have been a lot of people who instead of pointing fingers would be saying they're glad it wasn't them driving the car and feeling a little bad for what he was going through.

The thing that I believe makes this so shocking is it was premeditated in a clear frame of mind over years. These dogs that lost were not just humanely destroyed, but tortured as a form of entertainment it seems.

If anyone thinks Vick could have treated little kids for example the way he tortured these dogs and the backlash wouldn't have been worse, they seriously need to get their head examined.

 

[Kim&Chris]

"White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable."

Oh my. What an idiot. How do people with such limited thought proccesses get to be president of anything? I am embarrassed for the NAACP.

Ditto.

I knew it was only a matter of time until this became a racial issue. Why the president of the NAACP's opinion is even relevant over a dogfighting issue is a mystery.

 

[km2all]

This all happened near where I live, so it has really been in the news here. The news was interviewing people in the area where Vick's house was...and one guy said he didn't understand what the big deal was...it wasn't like Vick robbed a bank or killed a person. Another winner stated that he didn't see a problem with dog fighting...everyone he knows does it

 

[Fitswimmer]

I don't really understand this notion that somehow Vick's rights would be violated if the NFL decides not to rehire him after he serves his time. My suspicion is that by taking this plea deal and admitting to a crime, he has breached his contract with the Falcons. There has been much discussion on the ESPN family of networks about Vick having to repay all or part of his signing bonus-so that sounds like a breach to me.

Just because you can throw a 90 mph fastball, evade a 300 pound lineman or hit 50 HR's in a season doesn't give you the "right" to be on a professional team. You have the responsibility to act like a professional and at the very least not commit any crimes.

Mike should get a job after he leaves prison-but the NFL should have a choice whether or not they want to hire him.

 

[DISUNC]

I dunno why the NAACP keeps backing this Monster??????
It is so flippen foolish!

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

"White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable."

Oh my. What an idiot. How do people with such limited thought proccesses get to be president of anything? I am embarrassed for the NAACP.

Agreed.

Talk about putting you own organization in a bad light. What a dufuss!!

 

[Golf4food]

I'll agree with him with this regard. If Vick had been out partying and got drunk, been in a car accident, and the result was the death of a human, I don't think the outcry would have been as bad. A lot of people have driven in this country when they know they shouldn't. There would have been a lot of people who instead of pointing fingers would be saying they're glad it wasn't them driving the car and feeling a little bad for what he was going through.

Go google the name Leonard Little. He's a defensive lineman for the St. Louis Rams. And a few years ago he did just what you mention - he got drunk, drove his car, and killed a woman. He did about 90 days for vehicular homicide. What is he doing now? You betcha - he's playing football still for St. Louis.

I try to keep this in mind about the NAACP and "Reverend" Al and the gang - if racism ever truly went away they'd all lose their "jobs" and the undeserved wealth they have built from them... it is in their best interest to keep racism alive and well.

As for comparing Vick's actions to hunting - they can use that excuse when he starts eating the dogs. I don't know any hunters who go out, shoot a deer, and bury it in the woods or leave it there to rot. They eat the meat or give it to others who do. Vick didn't have a Vietnamese take-out restaurant on his property did he?

 

[cardaway]

Go google the name Leonard Little. He's a defensive lineman for the St. Louis Rams. And a few years ago he did just what you mention - he got drunk, drove his car, and killed a woman. He did about 90 days for vehicular homicide. What is he doing now? You betcha - he's playing football still for St. Louis.

And why is it that the same number of people are not threatening to boycott the league because Little will be playing on opening day? So much for really caring if there are criminals playing, it's just about what each person chooses to say they care about and overlook the rest.

I'll be happy when all of this dies down for ahwile and the people who couldn't otherwise care les about the NFL go back to whatever they do on Sundays and Monday evenings during the NFL season. That includes most of PETA. I can't still can't beleive anybody is taking PETA seriously.

 

[Miss Jasmine]

And why is it that the same number of people are not threatening to boycott the league because Little will be playing on opening day? So much for really caring if there are criminals playing, it's just about what each person chooses to say they care about and overlook the rest.

I'll be happy when all of this dies down for ahwile and the people who couldn' otherwise care les about the NFL go back to whatever they do on Sundays and Monday evenings during the NFL season. That includes most of PETA. I can't still can't beleive anybody is taking PETA seriously.

 

[Rozzie]

Just because you can throw a 90 mph fastball, evade a 300 pound lineman or hit 50 HR's in a season doesn't give you the "right" to be on a professional team. You have the responsibility to act like a professional and at the very least not commit any crimes.

Mike should get a job after he leaves prison-but the NFL should have a choice whether or not they want to hire him.

This is a very good point.

I am really going to throw up if the NAACP starts the whole race card pressure on the NFL. It's the NFL's job to promote a image, and it should be up to them to decide what do with him. Not up to the NAACP or even PETA. But the NFL should be allowed to make their own business decisions.

I personally would like to see some type of contriteness from Vick. Now it looks like he is just peepeed he got caught.

 

[brerrabbit]

Interestingly enough if Vick does get banned from Football it more than likely won't be because of his involement with the dog fighting and the killing of the dogs that weren't good fighters. It will be because he gambled on the fights. In professional sports as someone else pointed out you can be involved with the death of another human being and still be allowed back. You can get caught using steroids, illeagal drugs, beating people up, raping women etc., but don't ever let them catch you gambling, for pro sports thats the deal breaker.