***MyMagic+ & FastPass+ Official Information & FAQ Thread***

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no they don't, we have Darien Lake in upstate NY and unless they added it in the last year or so there's no FP system (used to be a six flags before going private again)

if I went to any other park i'd love to go to, i'd be the WDW rube who has no clue about the ins and outs/not optimizing my time.

I can honestly say our trip to WDW this year will be my 1st park experience anywhere with any sort of FP system. I'm excited to try whatever version is available to me.

The last time I went to WDW there was no FP, of course, they were BUILDING the Tower of Terror back then too ;)

I meant to say the lines at Disney do stay packed all day long.

And that's the point, when I spend 20-30 bucks to go to Six Flags, ok, I stand in some lines. When I am paying Hundreds of dollars a day to go to Disney, I better not be standing in line.
 
The same as I'd feel if I went to any other park in the US without some sort of FP system. We can wait in line or we can try again later. The lines don't stay that long all the way until park close ;)

For Peter Pan they sure do
 
When you only have one day in the park, you have to get it done that day. There is no coming back.

I do think that is a critical difference for many. When you have an AP and get to Disney several times a year (sometimes many more) you are going to have a different perspective from someone who gets one day on a trip once every year or two.
 

I meant to say the lines at Disney do stay packed all day long.

And that's the point, when I spend 20-30 bucks to go to Six Flags, ok, I stand in some lines. When I am paying Hundreds of dollars a day to go to Disney, I better not be standing in line.

ahhh gotcha, i misunderstood.

As for PP specifically, thats why we're RD and grabbing a FP or setting up a FP+ for it (on long wait times all day).

If he wants to go on again but wait is intolerable, then it is what it is I guess ::yes::
 
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I do think that is a critical difference for many. When you have an AP and get to Disney several times a year (sometimes many more) you are going to have a different perspective from someone who gets one day on a trip once every year or two.

Exactly. This is our family. We only to go each park one day and we mostly only go once a year during peak seasons. DH is a high school teacher. But...there are some families that will do each park once and then won't be back for 5 years. If they miss it this trip, there won't be another chance for a LONG time.

It seems like most of the ones that post that they think they are going to love the new system travel to Disney several times a year and during non-peak times. Until you've been in the park on a 8, 9 or 10 crowd day and in 90 degree heat, it is hard to understand how important FPs are.
 
Right up to the point when most typical 4 year olds get so tired the families have to retreat to their resorts.

midday naps FTW :cool1:

As much as I'd love to go full speed all day, I know my DS won't make it. He still naps on normal days :banana:
 
The same as I'd feel if I went to any other park in the US without some sort of FP system. We can wait in line or we can try again later. The lines don't stay that long all the way until park close ;)

when we were there last thanksgiving we missed out on a lot of stuff because the fast passes were out by the middle of the afternoon and there were 90 minute lines up until we were leaving at 10 p.m.

Point taken....guess that is why we have only taken our DS to Disney World even though we can drive from home to a Six Flags or Carowinds in just a few hours. And I have seen the wait times for Peter Pan be 60 to 90 minutes up to 9 or 10 in the evening.

I guess the point I was really making is that you will have no idea what your child is going to love and FP+ could take away some of the freedom of letting them do things like this....pick a favorite and ride it more than once. Like this year when we went to DHS. At RD we went and rode TSM and then picked up a FP to ride later. Our DS loved Star Tours so much this year that he picked riding that again instead of riding TSM. Before the day was over we were able to pick up 3 different sets of FPs for this ride. Last year he loved TSM and wanted to ride it more than once. This year, once was enough and he found something else that he loved. Its hard to know at 60 days out what kids will want to do. Another example is for weeks DS said he was going to ride RnR. The day before we go to DHS, he changed his mind. I know I will have no problem cancelling that FP+ but would there be anything of value for me to get in exchange that close to our park day. When you only have one day in the park, you have to get it done that day. There is no coming back.

I agree with what you're saying. i'm torn over this fp+ thing. it seems like a good idea to have a reserved time, but then again I feel like it's going to ruin just being able to wander around, enjoy the park, ride on what you want when you get there, and ride several times if the mood strikes you. also, for someone like me who gets anxiety about being places on time, I feel like this whole thing would make every day in the park an anxiety attack waiting to happen. I would constantly feel like we would have to get to the next thing and wouldn't enjoy our vacation. I can see the benefits, but I can also see it being a hassle sometimes. pros and cons, pros and cons.....
 
ahhh gotcha, i misunderstood.

As for PP specifically, thats why we're RD and grabbing a FP or setting up a FP+ for it (on long wait times all day).

If he wants to go on again but wait is intolerable, then it is what it is I guess ::yes::

But again, the point I was making is under the current system, you would be there are RD and ride PP. 4 year old loves so you grab a FP for it to ride again later. Under the new system, you still would be there at RD and ride PP but you had no idea how much the 4 year old was going to love it and you pre-booked your FP+s for JC, Pooh, BTMR and a spot for the parade. Now there are no FP+s for PP and the wait for this ride goes up to 60 minutes very quickly. The new system has the potential of taking this flexibility from families.

And yes....it is what it is. Hope all the 4, 5, 6 and so on year olds won't be too disappointed. I'm sure they will understand. ::yes::
 
mom2rtk said:
FWIW..... I probably would have felt the same way with a 4 year old. At that age we would have been skipping a number of headliners and not been trying to do RnR 5 times in a row. And we probably would have opted for shorter park days anyway.

But as your child ages, how are you going to know 60 days out what your child will enjoy most? Right up until the day we walked into DHS my 12 year old SWORE she wasn't doing ToT on that trip. Before the day was over, with the help of FP, she did it 5 times and proclaimed it the highlight of the trip. THAT is what I mean when I talk about giving up spontaneity at Disney. That won't happen again with this new system.

I really think Disney is writing off the teenage population with this new system. They are harder to sell on Disney anyway, and this will just decide it for many. My 18 and 20 year old boys are not huge Disney fans, so no huge deal here with them. But this just sort of seals the deal. I don't stand a chance of getting them to ever try it again. If they come along to Orlando again, we'll likely be swapping to Universal.

Good point .... my dd is 11 and with fp+ think this will be our last disney holiday. Next year I think we will do a three week trip from the uk. 1 week at hard rock she Loves ioa and universal. ... more new rides too... and maybe 2 weeks beach or other parts of orlando.
 
Read it again. It said they were bookable at 60 days out.

That's what I love about this site. I would have totally bailed on all mood strikes without reading the fine print. :thumbsup2
 
Well that is interesting.popcorn::
It will make a huge difference whether the trio of times is grouped closely together or spread far apart. I vote for close together. Then one could book the trio of evening times and do rope drop that am to ride other attractions with no wait...taking a midday rest.[/QUOTE]

Agreed! Spreading them far apart would definitely make things more difficult.
 
Well that is interesting.popcorn::
It will make a huge difference whether the trio of times is grouped closely together or spread far apart. I vote for close together. Then one could book the trio of evening times and do rope drop that am to ride other attractions with no wait...taking a midday rest.

Agreed! Spreading them far apart would definitely make things more difficult.[/QUOTE]

According to the FAQ, Disney will group your FP+ in such a way that even if you are a newbie to the parks, you will be able to make all your reservations. So I am guessing some algorithm exists to take your choices and spread them out or keep them close to maximize park time. Now, I realize this is giving Disney IT a serious amount of credit. I am just going by a particular question in FAQ.
 
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