My letter to guest relations

phorsenuf

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I was debating whether to post this or not but I figured I would.
I wrote Guest relations about some bad experinces we had on our last trip. Here's what I wrote (it's long) and I'll let you know if I get a reply.

I hope you don't find it petty...but I can take it! ;)


To Whom it may concern,
I am writing this letter to tell you some experiences we had during our visit there from Feb 20-28. While we did have many wonderful times during our stay I can't help but write to tell you of some very bad incidences that occurred that really did taint things.
On Saturday, Feb 21, we went to Trails End for lunch. We absolutely love this place and is a must do every time we go. We were sitting at a table in front of the swinging doors that I believe lead into a beverage area (they are not the doors by the buffet). A server dropped a tray right in front of those doors and glass went flying. My son (who's back was to the door) then informed us that the glass that was sticking into his back was uncomfortable (he's 14 with a very wry sense of humor). I jumped up and went to look and sure enough there was glass. I brushed it off him and his chair and checked for any cuts. Thankfully there was nothing more than a little pin prick. The thing that really bothers me about the whole incident was nobody said anything to us. No "I'm sorrys, "are you OK", nothing. They just swept up the glass and went on. They knew he had been hit by the flying glass because a server asked if he had been hit when they saw me checking him out and brushing off his chair. Now I realize accidents happen, but I do believe a little more compassion should have been expressed. At the very least, a manager coming over to apologize.
Then on the 24th of Feb, I had PS's for the California Grill. I had called a week or so earlier because our party went from 5 to 3 so I wanted to give them a heads up about it. It turned out due to illness we were unable to go that night after all. I called first thing in the morning to inform them and when I did they told me my PS had already been canceled by me a couple weeks earlier! It appears that when I called to make the change in the number of people, they canceled it instead. Thank goodness we didn't end up going because if we had and there was no PS, I would have been very angry.
We stayed at All Star Movies (2 rooms) which was a nice place in all but I was rather disappointed in the cleanliness of the room. Upon arrival we found a glove in the corner of the room in the closet area. There were crumbs on the floor and under the beds and cobwebs on the ceiling. The dispenser leaked body wash into the tub and every time we came back to our room the drain was closed in the tub causing it to fill up. One day we came back and it was 1/2 full!
My biggest problem however was the problems I had being there being disabled. When I go there I use an ECV that I bring with me. I was so upset this trip by situations I encountered that made getting around and doing things difficult. One night we had to go from the Magic Kingdom to Wilderness lodge for my sons' birthday. When we went to the boat dock they informed us we would have to wait for a certain boat because there was only one that would accommodate us. They said it would be 15 minutes or so. I said no, I don't want to wait so we'll just take the bus. So we leave the boat dock and head to the busses only to then discover there are no busses. So back to the boat dock we go and wait. It would have been nice if the CM had told me there were no busses! Well, I got onto the boat and the CM told me and my MIL where to go with our ECV's (she had one too). We got on and in position and then we had to move because some lady with a fully extended double stroller (with nobody in it) couldn't turn the corner without hitting her front wheel. (for some reason she just couldn't lift her stroller up and over a bit). Since there was very little room and all the passengers were now on (there was no preloading) I got jammed in a corner and then a CM kept telling me I couldn't park there but I explained I was stuck and there was nowhere for me to go and after a few mumbles under her breath she just said "fine, stay there then". Ya, that made me feel "magical" with everyone now looking at me. So we get to the wilderness lodge and guess what.......the dock is almost a foot higher then the boat. Isn't this nice, now what? So some guys had to lift the ECV up out of the boat and onto the dock. I will never stay at the Wilderness Lodge because of this.
I had 3 bus drivers that did not want to deal with getting me onto the bus so I had to wait for other busses. I had Cm's at ride lines giving me no guidance. I pulled up to Peter Pan, the CM watched me park and then I stood for 30 agonizing minutes waiting to get on this rides only to see a wheelchair entrance after we got off. The CM at Winnie the Pooh told me I also had to wait in the mainstream line, not informing me I could transfer into a wheelchair instead of standing for over 45 minutes for that one. Why did I wait in pain like that you wonder...because of my children. I am not going to let them down because I have a disability. Now maybe to you these disability issues may sound silly, but they are frustrating and humiliating to endure. These are not the only issues I had, they were very many more that I noticed on this trip that were so different from our other 2 trips earlier in the year.
We are annual passholders that live in New Hampshire so as you can imagine we are huge Disney fans and will come the distance to experience the magic. Unfortunately this was a less than magical trip. We pay a pretty penny for our 5 annual passes and the lodging and meals while we are there and this trip has made me waver on renewing our passes. Now I realize that our measly 3 vacations a year doesn't even register a blip on your bottom line, but it sure does to us!
It's really very disheartening to have such problems in a place that is supposed to be so special. It also made us think a little more too about buying into DVC as we planned to do. If this is the direction things are going, I don't know if I want to make that kind of financial investment. As of right now, I have no trip planned to return and usually those plans are in the works before we have even left there from the time before.
I'm sorry if I have rambled on but I want someone to understand that there are problems and some of them are serious, at least they are to us.
Thanks you for taking the time for reading this and I hope it will be somewhat enlightening.
 
Wow, I'm sorry to hear you had such problems on your trip. I would hope someone would respond to you in a timely fashion. Just an FYI, in the future, always get a specific person's name when writing a letter. The response will be quicker and most likely something will definetly be done to take care of the problems you experienced.

Enjoy your next stay, it can't possibly be as bad as this one.
 
I can see why you're upset! It sounds like you encountered some pretty thoughtless CM's along your trip. I'm sorry you had such bad experiences, and I hope Disney offerers you something-even just an apology.
 
It was definatly one of those murphys law trip...and to top it off I was travelling with my MIL!!:crazy2:
 

Sorry if I am mistaken, but weren't you one that ridiculed me for emailing guest relations?
 
Yikes, I repeat the Murphy's Law statement.

I had a pretty unhappy experience with Disney some years ago and they replied with a letter and a call. I thought that was very kind of them and showed that they really cared. I hope you receive an appropriate response. I think they'd like to know about the CMs who didn't help you, my son was in a wheelchair once at Universal and everyone fell over themselves to help us. That's the experience you should've had.

God bless,

Robinrs
 
Originally posted by Lewski709
Sorry if I am mistaken, but weren't you one that ridiculed me for emailing guest relations?

no, sorry, you have the wrong person :)


After I posted this I thought I should just double check but I don't recall ever ridiculing someone. I did find a post from you about a postcard rate and this was a response I wrote further into the discusion. I don't think it is ridiculing at all. I certainly didn't have a problem with you emailing them at all. I took issue with something later in the post. In fact my first post in that thread was very friendly....

So, I apologize if I hurt your feelings, but I was responding to an attitude, not a situation.
 
How awful. You spend all that money for lousey service, that stinks!!

Is there any one else that you could cc on the letter just to get a few others involved in making the proper changes??? Just a thought.

I hope it works out for you!!
 
No problem, no hurt feelings. I think you should let someone know when something happens you don't feel is right. They need to know about the good and the bad in order to fix things and continue to do things that are pleasurable. IMO, talking to a manager when the problems occured may have provided more satisfaction. Did you mention anything at the hotel? Don't let it keep you from going back. You'll have a better experience next time. They will respond too.

I think the ridiculing is here, where you are clapping at someone elses response. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=487717&highlight=+postcard++rate
 
Originally posted by Lewski709
Sorry if I am mistaken, but weren't you one that ridiculed me for emailing guest relations?

I just read her "ridicule" and question your definition of the word. I saw no ridicule there.

I think most of us can see the difference between your complaining to Disney because you didn't get a random postcard rate and the OP's complaint because she was left waiting for buses or couldn't get off a boat because she was in a wheelchair, or having to stand in line (in pain) instead of being taken through the wheelchair line.

Her complaints seemed quite valid where as yours, at least to me, seemed to be childish whining about how Disney isn't fair. Big difference.
 
Originally posted by Lewski709
Sorry if I am mistaken, but weren't you one that ridiculed me for emailing guest relations?

If you are referring to the one where you complained about not getting a postcard then that would have been me ridiculing you. :D
 
I think the clap was a more than appropriate response to tell you the truth. IMO, you were the one who seemed to be more than just a little rude on that thread.


It sounds to me, that unlike your complaint, the op had some serious issues that WDW should address. I have no doubt they'll be hearing from them soon. Waiting until you get home to voice those complaints is completely understandable and I doubt will have any negative effect on what action they decide to take.
 
My Mom rented an ECV for the first time and had the same issue. One night a bus driver was very rude to them, hem and hawwed and announced to the entire bus -- sorry for the delay but we had to load on of "them" on. My Mom is really hard of hearing, lucky for him. But for the rest of the week they refused to take the ECV anywhere they had to get on transportation (we were at the Beach Club). I would have to walk with Mom to MGM and meet everyone else there. They just skipped MK all together. Also many CM's seemed to be confused. We had the Maelstrom CM tell us to take it to the front of the line. Then my Mom had to walk back through the line and drive "against" traffic to get it out of there. We started just leaving it at the front of lines and sending the kids around to drive it back where my Mom was. You would think each CM at each ride would know the proper protocol. I don't blame you for complaining. All your issues sound valid to me.
 
Geez people, you are everywhere but on the subject. I said:
No problem, no hurt feelings. I think you should let someone know when something happens you don't feel is right. They need to know about the good and the bad in order to fix things and continue to do things that are pleasurable. IMO, talking to a manager when the problems occured may have provided more satisfaction. Did you mention anything at the hotel? Don't let it keep you from going back. You'll have a better experience next time. They will respond too.
I hope she gets a response. Everyone deserves recognition if they take the time to complain or compliment. I hope they do something to resolve the issue.

I think most of us can see the difference between your complaining to Disney because you didn't get a random postcard rate and the OP's complaint because she was left waiting for buses or couldn't get off a boat because she was in a wheelchair, or having to stand in line (in pain) instead of being taken through the wheelchair line.
I don't think I ever said she didn't have a valid complaint.

Her complaints seemed quite valid where as yours, at least to me, seemed to be childish whining about how Disney isn't fair. Big difference.
You can call it whatever you like, but it's pretty rude. Since you were not on the receiving end of the email, you have no clue (equally as rude as calling my post childish whining).

A lot of you love to fight!

Again, phorsenuf....I know you will get a response and don't let it stop you from returning. You'll want to know that they cared enough to make changes (and they will). :)
 
Lewski709, I was originally going to link to your post in question when I apologized about possible hurt feelings but I didn't because I didn't want to open a can of worms since the original thread got locked. If you don't mind me asking, why did you go back and edit your response with the link to that thread? There was no ******* until people went back to read the link.

I'm sure I'll get a response and I hope I do because I feel I have some very valid complaints.
 
You know your one-line reply of: "Sorry if I am mistaken, but weren't you one that ridiculed me for emailing guest relations?" was just a thinly veiled dig at the poster. If that hadn't been brought into the discussion I would have never gone to look at your previous thread on Disney postcard codes and would have remained blissfully ignorant of that thread.

Originally posted by Lewski709

A lot of you love to fight!

If you want to appear innocent in all this, be my guest, but I doubt most people are buying that passive-aggresive act.

You say we love to fight. Have you noticed that many of the threads you participate in end up being locked? Did you ever wonder why that happens? Just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Just unlucky? If one person claims you are rude, then possibly they misjudged your post. If it happens continually, maybe it's time to review your posting style. Just a friendly suggestion.
 
Did they take anything off of your meal at Trail's End? We don't use glass at our restaurant but I'd like to think that if something like that happened, we would take something off of the bill.
 
I linked it because that's where the ridicule re: emailing guest relations was from. As I said before, maybe I was mistaken, but it sure seemed that way to me.

The simple fact of "a lot of you love to fight" was NO WHERE directed at you, phosen.

It's quite funny that I don't visit the Resort Boards anymore for those reasons. The CB is much more relaxed and we discuss a lot here.

Phantom, I've been involved in about 5 posts that were locked. Your friendly suggestion isn't all that friendly. I guess you knew that though.

I think I have gotten more laughs today than ever. The fact is if everyone agreed with me or anyone else, what a dull place this would be, that is what opinions are all about, but they don't have to be nasty.
 
Lewski, I think plenty of us ridiculed you on the first postcard rate rant thread you had on the resort board. I also don't think there are too many people out there that actually believe Disney compensated you for not recieving a postcard. ::yes::
 
Someone at the parks should have refered you to Guest Services to get a Guidebook for Guests with Disabilities. THere is one for each park. They are not extremely detailed, but do have information about which rides have lines that are totally accessible. They used to have more specific instructions about where to go, like for most rides "Proceed thru the Mainstream queue. The CM will direct you when you get to the boarding area," or for a few rides" Proceed to the exit and wait for a CM at the gate marked with the wheelchair symbol." Now it's more "advertizing" IMHO rather than information. That's OK if you have enough CMs to make sure people get the help they need, but numbers of CMs for each ride are pretty much at the bare minimum.
Here's what the online Guidebook says for Peter Pan:
Sail away aboard a flying galleon and follow Peter Pan on a whimsical journey into Never Land. Refuse to grow up as you navigate by the second star on the right to float above the glittering lights of moonlit London. Glide above mermaids, Indians and by Hook as he tries to escape the snapping jaws of an alligator. "Come on everybody, here we go!"
Location: Fantasyland®
Guests must transfer from their wheelchair/ECV to the attraction/ride vehicle.

Not too helpful For anyone who wants the info, here's a link to the official Disney page about touring with mobility disabilities. The links at the top of each page take you to the guidebooks for each park.
 










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