my judgmental opinion

LuluLovesDisney

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I read so many statements on the DIS like "don't be judgmental", etc. usually when one poster disagrees with something another poster says.

Examples:
Many posters are complaining about teens wearing bikinis in the park, someone posts telling them not to be judgmental.

Many posters are complaining about people filling up nonDisney cups at the fountains, someone posts telling them not to be judgmental.

etc.

"Judgmental" means "depending on judgment/opinion; subjective" A judgment is an opinion. I

Now, I do not advocate "PREjudging" people, groups, or situations etc. which is obviously wrong, but if humans did NOT judge and evaluate their surroundings, we would not survive. I like discussing differing opinions respectfully on the DIS and it confuses me when people are called judgmental as if it were the worst thing in the world simply for expressing their opinion that something is not right to do. Sometimes "judgmental" is used to mean "prejudiced" which is negative, but in many cases, "judgmental" doesn't mean "prejudiced", and can actually be useful.

When we evaluate the friends our children are associating with, we are being judgmental (positive sense).

When we evaluate a potential mate, we are being judgmental (positive again).

When we evaluate houses, schools, etc. we are being judgmental as well.

I wonder if as a society we are becoming too accepting and too afraid of being "judgmental" to take a stand on an issue.

When a child molester goes to court, his defense attorneys state that they are being too judgmental and should take into consideration his childhood, etc. This is what made me think this may be going too far.

There are times when we must be judgmental. Recognizing what we consider to be wrong is an important step in developing personal morals. I don't care how "judgmental" it sounds, I don't think that child molester has the same rights after he became a rapist as he did before. Personally, I would advocate castration. Judgment over. Thanks for listening.
 
So true! People have forgotten what 'judgemental' really means.:)
Of course my favorite is when people use the "Well you need to have an open mind' line. Nope. I believe in having a 'discerning mind'. An 'open mind' gathers all trash that comes along.:) :teeth:
Kim
 
LOL, I think people usually use that 'don't be judgemental' angle to chastise people into keeping their opinions to themselves. I don't think anyone on this earth could realistically call themselves non-judgmental in some way, form or fashion.

Isn't even the phrase 'Don't be judgmental' sort of funny though? I mean, the person saying it is also making a judgement. I dunno, just makes me laugh a little.
 
poohandwendy said:
Isn't even the phrase 'Don't be judgmental' sort of funny though? I mean, the person saying it is also making a judgement. I dunno, just makes me laugh a little.


Didn't even think of that. It's pretty funny!
 

LuvN~Travel said:
So true! People have forgotten what 'judgemental' really means.:)
Of course my favorite is when people use the "Well you need to have an open mind' line. Nope. I believe in having a 'discerning mind'. An 'open mind' gathers all trash that comes along.:) :teeth:
Kim

THAT is an awesome statement. I am going to have to quote you on that!
 
LuLu you've put into words what I have thought too many times while reading these boards! You have to use your "judgement" to tell right from wrong.

Childmolesting is ALWAYS wrong. No matter the circumstances.

Of course not all things are as black and white as that. Or as important. But I do believe that when you accept that someone has the right to use a nonDisney cup at the soda fountain without being "judged" you are one teeny-tiny step closer to letting that molester get away with his crimes without being "judged".

Societal mores are the only thing that keep us from descending into anarchy, so judge away! (except for me cause I'm perfect, and hey, it's none of your business what I do anyway, so just but out, geez):teeth:

I believe in having a 'discerning mind'. An 'open mind' gathers all trash that comes along.:) :teeth:
That's great, can I steal it?
 
ticktock said:
LuLu you've put into words what I have thought too many times while reading these boards! You have to use your "judgement" to tell right from wrong.

Childmolesting is ALWAYS wrong. No matter the circumstances.

Of course not all things are as black and white as that. Or as important. But I do believe that when you accept that someone has the right to use a nonDisney cup at the soda fountain without being "judged" you are one teeny-tiny step closer to letting that molester get away with his crimes without being "judged".

Societal mores are the only thing that keep us from descending into anarchy, so judge away! (except for me cause I'm perfect, and hey, it's none of your business what I do anyway, so just but out, geez):teeth:

That's great, can I steal it?

Sure, I can't even remember where I picked it up from.:)
Kim
 
ITA Many use the "judgemental card" one anybody who does not agree with their stances. IMHO they do this because deep down they know what they did was wrong, but if nobody elses points it out, it can't be wrong.
 
I find people who accuse others of being judgmental often have a double standard. It is OK for them to criticize or make some comment about others, but if I were to make the same comment, I am being 'judgmental'.
 
Everyone knows they are making judgements but they prefer to use different terms.
I think people have equated the word "judgement" with GOD, judges, "The Rapture", bible, police, etc...
I really think it is a matter of being uncomfortable with the word 'judgement' for most people.
 
Oh I can totally relate to this thread!

I can't stand when someone posts a moral question (is it wrong not to buy my 3 year old a ticket, for an example) asking for OPINIONS and then when someone posts a opposing opinion about how it would be wrong, those who have done this and don't think it's wrong (or that its no one's business but their own) come back with "why is everyone so judgemental?", or "I'm not going to judge the OP", or my favorites, "Judge not, lest ye be judged" and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Oh that arguement drives me crazy! :crazy:

We all judge each other every day in so many different ways, it's human nature. :rolleyes:
 
I'll be the disenting opinion here...there is a time and place to be judgmental of other people and IMHO, there are very few times and places. When you are on a jury would be one.

Be judgmental of YOUR choices, by all means...in all the aspects the OP mentioned: choosing a spouse, making decisions for your kids, etc. And really, you can be judgmental about me all you want, thoughts are free and unregulated...BUT, do not SAY judgmental things of MY choice of spouse, decisions about MY kids, how to live MY life, etc. Unless I'm breaking the law or asking for your opinion, well, what purpose is it serving anyone else to say ugly things to me about my choices?
 
Maleficent13 said:
I'll be the disenting opinion here...there is a time and place to be judgmental of other people and IMHO, there are very few times and places. When you are on a jury would be one.

Be judgmental of YOUR choices, by all means...in all the aspects the OP mentioned: choosing a spouse, making decisions for your kids, etc. And really, you can be judgmental about me all you want, thoughts are free and unregulated...BUT, do not SAY judgmental things of MY choice of spouse, decisions about MY kids, how to live MY life, etc. Unless I'm breaking the law or asking for your opinion, well, what purpose is it serving anyone else to say ugly things to me about my choices?
ITA, but I have seen the "judgemental card" played when somebody is breaking the law, not following the rules and when opinions were requested. They pretended to have an open mind, but what they really wanted was for others to validate their indiscretions. If others do it then it must not be wrong.
 
I've seen that too and agree it's someone looking for validation...so if I disagree, I simply don't validate them by even responding. But more often I see threads where someone feels the need to state that all people who do <insert activity here> are wrong. Topics like gay marriages, breastfeeding, natural childbirth, working moms, etc etc.
 


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