My Disney Rant

[johnsonet]

Yawn. Big deal. The poster wasn't a decent person then. But her comment was spot on.

The poster didn't make the "lardbutt" comment. And making fun of people for their weight is not "spot on".

 

[New England Mickey]

I think you're right! People seem to think they deserve everything they want, and right now, just because they spent a lot of money.



I think this is true, too, and very well said.



Unfortunately, I think this kind of concession is contributing to the problem. We make exceptions because we want to be compassionate in certain circumstances, but it grows and grows to encompass more and more circumstances until far too many people think "Oh, it's OK this time, because..." - and pretty soon the exception becomes the new normal.

That true, but I was talking about how it would be fine if he hit someone with a stroller if they weren't waiting for people to get off busses and elevators, and were being exceptionally rude.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

I religiously hold the door open and try to spell like-minded gentlemen who have been stuck holding the door for an endless stream that has developed by the time I get there. I'd say the number of thank-yous run right at about 50%. It's nice to hear, but the way I was raised it isn't really a voluntary action for me, so I'm not really disheartened if I don't hear a "thank you". It's more about what I feel is my obligation, so I'd actually rather hold the door for a woman who completely ignores me while walking through than to have a very polite woman decline to allow me to hold the door for her.

So in a sense, it's kinda all about me - so I might be part of the problem.

On a side note, the one custom I finally broke myself of is standing whenever a woman stands to leave the table - or returns. For quite some time, I was the only one following that custom and the awkwardness of it made me stop doing it. However, I do still make sure all the women order first before the men order - despite many waiters/waitresses wanting to take orders in order of seating.

It's easier to take orders in order of seating. That's the way you are supposed to put it in the computer "seat one" "seat two" or "guest one" guest two". It makes it easier to remember where the food goes.

 

[Hrhpd]

We have been coming to WDW for over 30 years multiple times a year, with friends and family and have stayed in all levels of Disney resorts. We are also DVC members since 96.

Each trip has been unique and magical in its own way, and we have always found new and wonderful things to see, experience, or share with friends and family traveling with us.

Many changes have occurred throughout WDW over the years; some great, some good, and some not so good. Throughout the years we have always experienced great cast member interaction, even if there were issues( hardly any, and all minor).

Sadly though,what we have noticed is an increase in rude, inconsiderate guests, with a sense of entitlement, that I can't comprehend.
Families don't pick up after themselves at the pools, or fast food restaurants.
Strollers and ECVs have been weaponized in that people go so fast, we've been run into too many times to count.
Why can't people wait for those on busses and elevators to get OFF before they try to push their way in?
I won't even begin to talk about the parents who like to "share" with the world when their kid has a tantrum for whatever reason.
Or a parent who won't deal with a child who is misbehaving and infringing on someone else's experience.
And yes I am a parent.

This is not unique to Disney, but seems more prevalent because we choose to vacation here.
Our choice I know, and if we don't like it we don't have to vacation here.

I am just stunned at the lack of consideration people have for others.

Ok rant over.

Are you sure it is Disney that is changing or that after 30 years, you are just getting older and less tolerant?

We all get a bit more crotchety as we age. Everything you posted was a problem 30 years ago too, especially in a large, hot vacation destination packed with all sorts of different people.

 

[Praying Colonel]

On our first family trip, we saw 2 guys square off and almost start throwing punches over who was going to get to sit on a little piece of curb in the hub before Spectromagic*. I haven't seen anything worse than that on any of our subsequent trips, so I guess I'm glad (in a way) that I got something that bad out of the way early on.




*--Lesson learned early: find someplace else other than the hub to watch a parade. Things can get hairy in there.

 

[AJ1983]

I have noticed the behavior for a few years. The first was the brat chasing the ducks around the Beach Club pool while the parent smiled. The ducks got wise and hid under my or my sister's chair. And I am not shy about telling people to leave wildlife alone. Over the years I have seen kids by the fountain in the Poly ripping out the flowers and flinging them around, while the parents ignored them. I've also seen kids throwing balls into the flowers by the Crystal Palace, and then climb into the flower beds to go get the ball, and repeat and repeat.

What seems to be on the increase are adults not wanting to parent their kids. Or, as the father who told his child to leave the paper he dropped in the walkway, parents who think they can be slobs as long as they are on vacation and someone else has to clean up behind them.

You are like my husband. Kids were trying to catch tiny baby ducks at DHS and DH says "if you touch them the mom wont take them back". And the parents just stared at him and did nothing as the kids continued to chase the ducks (and im talking 8-12 year olds)

 

[Shmily1]

It's a lack of respect and it is rampant in the world today. No one respects anyone and gets their little feelings hurt when they don't get their way.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

The poster didn't make the "lardbutt" comment. And making fun of people for their weight is not "spot on".

Meh, once you make a giant *** of yourself, all bets are off.

 

[Adelle Dazeem]

You are like my husband. Kids were trying to catch tiny baby ducks at DHS and DH says "if you touch them the mom wont take them back". And the parents just stared at him and did nothing as the kids continued to chase the ducks (and im talking 8-12 year olds)

I would never would have been able to keep my mouth shut if I saw this. I am so tired of seeing animals harassed by stupid kids and their moronic parents who do nothing, or even worse, encourage it.

 

[anneboleyn]

And I am not shy about telling people to leave wildlife alone..

I can put up with a lot, including screaming children, people who use their ECV's as battering rams, and various other forms of unpleasant behavior. But people who are mean to the animals send me in to a blind rage. I am usually a very calm and happy individual, but as soon as I see some poor duck or other animal getting tormented, I go OFF.

 

[NYDisGuy]

I can put up with a lot, including screaming children, people who use their ECV's as battering rams, and various other forms of unpleasant behavior. But people who are mean to the animals send me in to a blind rage. I am usually a very calm and happy individual, but as soon as I see some poor duck or other animal getting tormented, I go OFF.

Agreed, I almost hate how the birds are so used to the people where they approach tables. I went up to a few people and told them I would call security if they didn't stop, won't get into what they did.

 

[Dancind]

Started going to WDW multiple times a year in 1999, bought DVC, last trip was 2012. Every year the parks became more and more crowded, with more scooters, strollers, and half crazed people. Half crazed because no one really deals well with crowds like that, all day, especially when it's hot.

There's also the fact that my tolerance has decreased. I used to be able to get into Ninja mode at the parks, as we zipped around in single file, knowing where to zig and zag. I just don't see it happening now.

But I've been talked into planning a family trip for October 2017. So I will hope for the best, and hope it isn't too hot though I know it will be crowded as always.

We made our first trip to Europe this year. When we were in areas that were pretty much tourist-free, I really noticed that Europeans have taught their kids to use "inside voices". Everywhere, restaurants, train stations. We were at an airport gate in Frankfurt and it was as quiet as a library, until an American family arrived. It was so very nice. I'd like to see that make a comeback in the US!

 

[cornflkgrl]

Idk I think as we get older we also get grumpier and tend to see bad manners more. I don't think things have changed all that much. People in the 70s littered so much we needed a massive Keep America Clean program, until a few years ago people threw cigarette butts everywhere, I used to see people treat wait staff more like servants and that doesn't seem as bad anymore, my high school had fights all the time that would be an expulsion in my son's school today, Very sadly my grandparents generation was downright ugly to people of different races in way that would never stand at the parks today.

Since cavemen came out of the cave people have been saying what is wrong with kids today. I just really don't see a huge difference in manners only my tolerance for the lack of them.

^^^^^^THIS.

 

[Sue M]

The one thing I've been seeing a lot of is people with strollers purposely running into the person in front of them instead of saying excuse me.. Especially those with the 3 wheel ones. I now stop and turn around, if it looks like this is what happens, I take their photo with my phone. never needed to send it to guest relations or call them out on social media and they change really fast when you have evidence to report them to security

The one thing that really really really bugs me is someone who requires a wheelchair having the grandkids pushing them through the parks (maybe not grandkids but multiple younger children pushing it). they can't steer it and there is no way that can stop it moving forward if there is a sudden need to. My daughter got very hurt by this situation and I spent the next couple days having to push her around in a wheelchair as walking even from resort room to bus was near impossible. I'm a grown able responsible adult and she's a grown adult so not exactly lightweight and there was times I had trouble getting her stopped in time for someone, there is no way kids push grandma have any chance of being safe with any type of crowd....

The last thing I hate is YOUR WIDER WITH A BACKPACK ON, STOP TURNING IN CIRCLES IN A CROWD your almost hitting me walking next to you.

Never thought of taking a photo!

 

[Sue M]

When we stayed at CBR (and it has nothing to do with that resort, just the trip) I saw a punches thrown brawl getting on the bus. A woman in her mid-40s, a dead ringer for Momma June on Honey BooBoo, came flying up on her ECV and cut off an elderly couple that were trying to get on the bus. I didn't hear what the gentleman said but Momma June turned and snarled "do you think I rented this thing to stand in line behind you??? I don't think so!!!" Another woman in her 40s heard enough rudeness and said "I assumed you rented it because you could waddle your lardbutt through the parks all day." Momma June hopped of her ECV and ran like Usan Bolt up to the other woman and slapped her in the face --- the other woman reciprocated before we could get them separated. The happiest place on earth -- unless you don't want it to be!

Tom

Yikes Tom! That is just plain scary! Did security come? If I was that bus driver I wouldn't have let either of those woman on the bus. Dangerous if they decided to carry on while bus was moving, to others. Imagine Momma June careening into your lap!

 

[B4DlandOpened]

We made our first trip to Europe this year. When we were in areas that were pretty much tourist-free, I really noticed that Europeans have taught their kids to use "inside voices". Everywhere, restaurants, train stations. We were at an airport gate in Frankfurt and it was as quiet as a library, until an American family arrived. It was so very nice. I'd like to see that make a comeback in the US!

We noticed the same think during our trips. Isn't it great to be able to eat a meal without blaring music (that's designed to "turn" the tables quickly) and without having to hear loud conversations or screaming and wandering kids?

 

[cornflkgrl]

We noticed the same think during our trips. Isn't it great to be able to eat a meal without blaring music (that's designed to "turn" the tables quickly) and without having to hear loud conversations or screaming and wandering kids?

Lived in Germany for 6 years (3 in Frankfurt/3 in a village near Kaiserslautern.) Agree everyone is quieter in Germany (as a society..but it is a cultural thing). But restaurants (NOT bars!) being quieter or people talking quieter over there -- part of the reason people are loud in American restaurants is that one has to yell in American restaurants to be heard above the music being played. The difference is not necessarily the children. It is the fact that you aren't listening to Pour Some Sugar on Me at 110 decibals while trying to eat or order food ....or have a conversation with your dinner companion.

 

[sam_gordon]

It is the fact that you aren't listening to Pour Some Sugar on Me at 110 decimals while trying to eat or order food ....or have a conversation with your dinner companion.

What restaurants are you guys going to? I've spent a lot of time in restaurants recently and haven't had a problem conversing with people at the other end of the table.

 

[cornflkgrl]

What restaurants are you guys going to? I've spent a lot of time in restaurants recently and haven't had a problem conversing with people at the other end of the table.

Typically, bar and grill type places/ "family" restaurants do it. I haven't been to a nice fancy dining establishment in awhile, but last time I did, this wasn't a problem.

 

[KonaKaiTom]

Yikes Tom! That is just plain scary! Did security come? If I was that bus driver I wouldn't have let either of those woman on the bus. Dangerous if they decided to carry on while bus was moving, to others. Imagine Momma June careening into your lap!

Security was there in less than 2 minutes....I'm sure the bus driver called them -- several of us stepped in between t

Yikes Tom! That is just plain scary! Did security come? If I was that bus driver I wouldn't have let either of those woman on the bus. Dangerous if they decided to carry on while bus was moving, to others. Imagine Momma June careening into your lap!

I'm pretty sure security was there in less than 2 minutes -- several of us stepped in between them to keep the matter from getting worse. I believe I heard security saying that the sheriff's department had already been called and both woman were going to be arrested -- the driver had radioed everything into Disney security.

Tom