My boys want to quit Tae Kwon Do! **More Info**

I also couldn't help but wonder if it was because of the instructor and maybe having to adjust to a new class. But if he is really miserable then I wouldn't make him stay, after all he's just 9. There will be time for him to go back if the passion comes back to him.

My DS started TKD in June for a summer session, we wanted to make sure he liked it before we made the commitment. He loved the summer program, so I signed him up. He still loves it but I told him this is year long commitment and he's not allowed to quit and he did agree to it. We'll re-evaluate each year but unless there is a great reason he'll complete that year.
 
My 10 y.o. has been in TKD for two years and he quit this month. He simply didn't like going anymore. At all. We even took a summer break (which is unusual with our program) hoping that being away for a while would recharge his batteries and warm him to the idea of going in the fall. That break didn't make any difference. It wasn't worth making him go anymore because he was not enjoying it one bit, plus he has other things on his plate (speech therapy twice/week) that he also has to do that are not fun for him--why pile TKD on top of that? TKD was not worth the battle.

You might want to give it a couple of more months just to see if the instructor clicks better. If nothing improves by then, perhaps it's time to move on and try some other activities.
 
Well, that is the thing. Once they are at TKD, they have a fine time. My problem is really with the instructor. I feel like there is no ryhme or reason to the class. They are in the advanced class and lately, he has my boys go in a separate room to train with another instructor b/c he is spending his time with the demo team. There are only 3 out of 15 kids in the advanced class that are not part of the demo team, and mine are two of them. They have never even been asked if they want to be a part of the demo team. Or even work towards being on the team.

The black belt test is 6.5 hours long and yes, my son is terrified. I don't think he is ready and they want him to test in December! He needs to know all the forms, but they never do forms in class :confused3 . They only do forms on Saturday morning, and we usually can't make it at that time. The instructor said I should sign him up for private lessons before the black belt test, more $$$.

My DH used to go to class with them. In MD (where we used to live) there was one class in the afternoon for both adults and kids. The boys really liked that. Here, it is separated. But my DH had to stop going b/c of time constraints with his job (Navy Pilot) and the fact that he is deploying in a month. So, my DH used to help them practice. My boys NEVER practice. They just want to be outside playing football with their friends. They want to play basketball this winter and maybe swim lessons.

Part of me wants him to keep going and get his black belt, but I just don't think it is in him. They enjoy the game of dodgeball at the end of class more than the class. Ugh, why do I feel like I am quiting???

Help. Thanks for all the advice and keep it coming.
 
Kids get burned out, and you really have to be careful of that. Push them now, and they may end up never doing it again in their lives (believe me, I've seen it happen to sooooooooo many kids in other sports).

My policy was to make them do something (so if they quit one thing they had to try another) and never quit in the middle of a session (don't quit in the middle of something you've paid for - and maybe before they'd finish the session they'd be more into it.)
 

Narnian_Princess said:
Wow, there was one there this past weekend? I went to the US Open, but I didn't know that other tournaments were held there!

Yup, there was an ATA (American Tae Kwon Do Association) tournament there at the Wide World Of Sports this past weekend... DS got home at 12:30 this morning :)

I also wanted to mention to the OP, that while DS has slowed down his number of classes, we've also allowed him to try the different sports that he's interested in & he spends a lot of time doing those things as well... it really has made all the difference for him...
 
Mickey Fliers said:
Part of me wants him to keep going and get his black belt, but I just don't think it is in him. They enjoy the game of dodgeball at the end of class more than the class. Ugh, why do I feel like I am quiting???

Help. Thanks for all the advice and keep it coming.

My son is in Tae Kwon Do. He just got his red belt. He now has to go for his bo black belt. Then will be the intensive testing for black belt.

As you well know, the testing for black belt is a much different preparation than for all of the other belts. I truly believe that in order to test for black belt, your heart really should be in it and you should really want it. You should also feel that your instructor(s) are behind you 100%.

It sounds like there are a few things going on here--mainly the new instructor. I think it makes all the difference in the world in inspiring your son. I also think your son might feel some "fear" because he isn't getting confidence at his new dojo.

These are some hard things to think about because it is tough to quit all this time. But, remember, your son will lose nothing but time if he quits now. He will ALWAYS remain at his current belt level and if he wants to return later he can pick right up again. He is only 9--maybe he really isn't ready for the black belt. I know where I am that there are very young black belts. I'm not sure I agree with that but what do I know?
 
A 6.5 hour test for a nine year old. That is ridiculous. If he isn't comfortable doing it, there is no way I would force it. Is the black belt for him or for you?
 
Why do you feel like you are quitting?

My guess is because the process already started when your dh schedule changed, you moved, and cannot go on Saturday's & they don't practice.
On top of that they sound like they do not "fit" with the place they are at and they don't want to do it.

Too many "con's".

I guess you really need to list the "Pros" for us because it just doesn't look good from this standpoint, KWIM?
 
Perhaps they can find interest in another martial art, like kung fu or karate?

Personally, my dd's take breaks twice a year plus vacations to avoid burnout. After all, they are just kids. ;)
 
My son took karate (tung soo do) for several years and also lost interest when he was just about to get his black belt. I didn't want to push, so he stopped going. He's now 17 and he regrets quitting, and I get angry when he once in a while says that I "let him quit". :confused3
 
DisneyBlonde said:
My son took karate (tung soo do) for several years and also lost interest when he was just about to get his black belt. I didn't want to push, so he stopped going. He's now 17 and he regrets quitting, and I get angry when he once in a while says that I "let him quit". :confused3

Awww...{hugs}...trust me, we can only take so much as mom's.:lmao:

My 15yo wants to play the violin now, she plays Sax in the Marching Band in HS.
She says to me..."why didn't you make me play the violin?"
I say.."I asked you, but you didn't want to do it."

I tell her she can take up the violin, she turns 16 in April and if she gets a job and pays for it...no problem.:lmao:
 
mom2boys said:
That's what we'd do to our kids too. One belt away from black belt is too close to quit. He's come too far. At 9 he doesn't fully comprehend what an accomplishment that.
I agree.

We went through almost the exact same thing as the OP. This is our experience, but as kids are all different, take it for what it is worth.

My son went through a period of hating TKD between his brown belt and his conditional black. He was 10. Screamed, cried, didn't want to go.

We also had similar problems with the sensei. My son was not on the competition team and because he was quiet, he was often "forgotten." I gloss over it now, but I remember being rather angry and having many conversations with the sensei. He was an organizational mess, but was phenominal when he taught. The problem was getting him to also focus on working with the "non-competition" kids.

As for being behind on the forms, we actually hired one of the other older black belt students to help him out. Lots less money and our son enjoyed being helped by a peer rather than the teacher.

I struggled with the decision of letting him quit. I was also wondering about whether we should do this at his age. Are we burning him out? Who is this belt really for? But he had already put 4 years in and only had a year left. If he quit, I knew he would never go back because he would immediately drop several belts. It wouldn't be the same group of kids. It just wouldn't be the same.

So, we decided to make him stick it through at least to the next belt. He had made a goal of black belt, and we thought one more year (after 4) wouldn't be so bad. And then, because of his attitude, he failed his conditional black belt test. He was so bummed he wouldn't be getting his black belt with many of his friends. But the sensei had a talk with him and allowed him to put in extra time to make up and do a retest. He did stick with it, got the conditional, was back on track with his friends and his attitude/love for the sport changed back to enjoyment between conditional black and black. The black belt ceremony was beautiful.

Almost 7 years later, as an honor student in high school, that black belt is his most important possession. He tells us constantly that he is so glad we forced him to stick with it. He tells us he learned so much more than just kicks and punches in that class. He learned perseverence. He learned disappointment. He learned respect. And most of all, he learned he could do it.

He tells us all the time that when things get hard and tough for him now, all he has to do is look at that framed certificate and the black belt hanging next to it. He says that it reminds him that if he toughs it out he knows it will get better and the reward will be sweet.

Not all kids are the same, so our approach wouldn't work for all kids. And I felt like the most horrible mother when we made him keep going, when he clearly hated it. But even as a kid, life isn't always easy. For our family, it worked out for the best that we wouldn't let him trash 4 years of hard work. And I just have to hear the thanks our kid gives us to know we made the right decision.
 
Mickey Fliers said:
Well, that is the thing. Once they are at TKD, they have a fine time. My problem is really with the instructor. I feel like there is no ryhme or reason to the class. They are in the advanced class and lately, he has my boys go in a separate room to train with another instructor b/c he is spending his time with the demo team. There are only 3 out of 15 kids in the advanced class that are not part of the demo team, and mine are two of them. They have never even been asked if they want to be a part of the demo team. Or even work towards being on the team.

The black belt test is 6.5 hours long and yes, my son is terrified. I don't think he is ready and they want him to test in December! He needs to know all the forms, but they never do forms in class :confused3 . They only do forms on Saturday morning, and we usually can't make it at that time. The instructor said I should sign him up for private lessons before the black belt test, more $$$.

My DH used to go to class with them. In MD (where we used to live) there was one class in the afternoon for both adults and kids. The boys really liked that. Here, it is separated. But my DH had to stop going b/c of time constraints with his job (Navy Pilot) and the fact that he is deploying in a month. So, my DH used to help them practice. My boys NEVER practice. They just want to be outside playing football with their friends. They want to play basketball this winter and maybe swim lessons.

Part of me wants him to keep going and get his black belt, but I just don't think it is in him. They enjoy the game of dodgeball at the end of class more than the class. Ugh, why do I feel like I am quiting???

Help. Thanks for all the advice and keep it coming.

Wow, it sounds like your instructor has issues. First of all, ALL classes need to have structure. One thing I do as an assistant instructor is focus either on one type of skill per class, or touch on each type of skill. At my school we also have a SEPARATE class at a separate time for our demo team. Shoving kids off to the side during a regular class because they're not on the demo team is wrong.

6.5 hours for a black belt test? :scared: That is terrifying! We have our tests broken up into three more manageable parts; a 2-mile run one day, a kata (forms) pre-test on another day, then the actual 3 hour test. It's tough for our kids to make it through that; I can't imagine how scared your son must be.

Private lessons with a black belt instructor should cost some money (we charge $20 for a half-hour session) but there should be leadership team members who give free private lessons. Even if there's a student at your son's rank who actually knows the forms, that student should be able to 'tutor' your son in forms and not get paid.

I think maybe you should switch to another school with the same (or similar) style of martial arts. It may just be the format and instructor that is bothering your DS's. I know that we get people in who quit other schools and want to try something new. We let them keep their belts until they get up to speed with what their belt color is in our style, then we let them progress. No schools should have problems doing that. If they want your kids to go back to a white belt, leave.

Anyway, the point of this dramatically long post is that I don't think your DS's are getting the best training. Try putting them in a slightly different style in a new school. It won't take them too long to catch up, and they may like it so much better that they'll want not only black belts but 2nd and 3rd degrees as well.

Good luck, and I hope you find a course of action that is best for everyone.
 
Independent, your post brought tears to my eyes. What a touching story. As a parent you hope to make the right decisions. It's nice to find out when you do! :)

Lots of life lessons. Glad it all worked out.
 


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