Moving Elderly Parents Cross Country

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My father is in failing health. Would like to move my mother and him from Illinois to San Diego. Does anyone know?

1) How much it will cost to hire movers?
They will be leaving most of their things behind. Moving a medical bed, very heavy recliner, large screen tv, 3 other tvs, probably 5 boxes of knick nacks, and some clothes. Not too much.

2) How do transfer medical records?

What else am I forgetting?
 
My father is in failing health. Would like to move my mother and him from Illinois to San Diego. Does anyone know?

1) How much it will cost to hire movers?
They will be leaving most of their things behind. Moving a medical bed, very heavy recliner, large screen tv, 3 other tvs, probably 5 boxes of knick nacks, and some clothes. Not too much.

2) How do transfer medical records?

What else am I forgetting?

Would the pod-type of moving container work for that small amount of goods? They have those boxes they deliver to the old home, you pack it up, and it gets trucked across country, and you unpack it at the new home. You could hire some high school or college boys to do the hard labor if you don't have family members/friends who could do it.

If you already have the new doctors picked out, I would imagine your parents could just ask their current health care providers to send the records, or they could ask the new providers to request the records.

Where will your parents be living? With you or at a separate residence? How will they be getting there?
 
I just moved a few months ago. For my move of 1100 miles, it was about 68 cents per pound to move my stuff. Packing is additional and is charged on a per hour basis. I would imagine that it would be more to move from IL to San Diego. So, consider whether the things that will be moved are worth at least $1 per pound. If not, then toss. I did a lot of getting rid of stuff before I moved. I wish I had done more. TV's will require some packing.

You can request medical records before you leave, but it may be easier to have them transferred after they have a new doctor in San Diego. Do they have medical insurance in San Diego?

Make sure any safety deposit box is cleared out. I forgot.
 
Realizing you are doing this with the best of intentions-have you asked your parents how they feel about it? My brother and i wanted to move my parents from northwest Wyoming to Southern Colorado when my father was ill. We got told-some what rudely-to bugger off-they were adults capable of making their own decisions and while we were welcomed to visit and be involved in end of life care decisions they WERE NOT going to leave thier friends, their church, the community loved and were familiar with and thier home to make our lives easier.
If they have agreed to this move then i would definately explore at containerized shipping system-you can hire someone on the other end to load it-and things will be stored until you have a place to put them.
Is there a home that must be sold or rented? You will need to hire a good property management company to take care of that. Make sure all bank accounts are closed-but if things are direct deposited you will need to leave the existing account open for 90 days to be sure all deposits have cleared before closing it.
 

I just moved a few months ago. For my move of 1100 miles, it was about 68 cents per pound to move my stuff. Packing is additional and is charged on a per hour basis. I would imagine that it would be more to move from IL to San Diego. So, consider whether the things that will be moved are worth at least $1 per pound. If not, then toss. I did a lot of getting rid of stuff before I moved. I wish I had done more. TV's will require some packing.

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I think this is great advice. It may be cheaper to sell the bed, chair, and TVs in Illinois than to pay for moving them. We learned this the hard way. You can re-acquire all those things in San Diego. The knick-knacks are probably more sentimental and your parents will want to keep them. Where are they going to live when they get to San Diego?
 
you have to do what is right for your family, but i just want to give you a heads up on a few issues to take into consideration. i'm saying this as a non elderly person, but one who is retired and moved from one state to another.

1. look to how the move will impact their income. if they get a pension from an illinois entity it might be subject to double state taxing. they might have to pay state tax every year to both illinois and california (and dang, california has high state tax rates-one of the reasons we moved).

2. if they have private insurance as a retiree benefit see if it even offers out of state coverage, and if it does how much it costs.
my former employer was required by law to provide a plan to out of state retirees-i pay 250% more of a monthly premium, for a much lower coverage plan than my fellow retirees from that same employer that live in the state i retired from.

3. if the coverage extends to california DO NOT TRUST the insurance company's list of supposed providers. call them individualy to see if (1) they are still contracted with the company, (2) if they are even taking patients. this is a HUGE issue with us right now, the number of providers has been cut back so drasticly that we are forced to use non contracted which means huge out of pocket expenses.

4. if they have medicare make sure that there are medicare doctors in the area they will live that are even accepting new patients. some doctors don't have a wait list, some may have a 2 year anticipated wait. with a person with existing health care issues this can pose major problems. if they have a medicaid type insurance they will have to file an application for mediCAL in california-it does not transfer like medicare. the eligibiltiy criteria is different from state to state, and a person eligible in one state may not be in another (i administered this program in california-we did have elderly people move in with kids only to find out the benefits they were eligible to in another state they had no eligibility to in california:guilty:)

5. if they have existing wills/trusts check what will need to be changed with the california move, and get anything that needs to be done in the other state taken care of before the move.

we learned about this b/c dh's mom was considering a move to another state. what is an acceptable or executable will in one state may not be in another. what is an acceptable poa in one state may not be in another. one state may have one kind of probate/executing requirement, the state the person lived in may have another. they can conflict and create large expenses to try to execute even at the simplest level.

on medical records we found that we could have them sent to new providers OR if the original provider was techno smart and kept their records on a data base-they transferred them to US, and we could provide a copy to the new doctors (then if doctors changed we could quickly provide the new ones with the info).


on moving expenses-i agree with others that depending on the items it might be less expensive to buy replacements. electronics, depending on the age can be more expensive to move than replace. same with furniture (the exception would be medical equipment that an insurance paid for a portion of and the person is'nt eligible to getting another kick in of the costs-this was the situation w/ my mom's recliner that has a seat lift in it).
 
Wow! Thanks for all the advice. I will go through it all. I love the pod container idea.

To answer some quick questions: My parents do know about the move and can't wait to get back to Calif. Also, they will be living with my husband and I.
 
Realizing you are doing this with the best of intentions-have you asked your parents how they feel about it? My brother and i wanted to move my parents from northwest Wyoming to Southern Colorado when my father was ill. We got told-some what rudely-to bugger off-they were adults capable of making their own decisions and while we were welcomed to visit and be involved in end of life care decisions they WERE NOT going to leave thier friends, their church, the community loved and were familiar with and thier home to make our lives easier.
If they have agreed to this move then i would definately explore at containerized shipping system-you can hire someone on the other end to load it-and things will be stored until you have a place to put them.
Is there a home that must be sold or rented? You will need to hire a good property management company to take care of that. Make sure all bank accounts are closed-but if things are direct deposited you will need to leave the existing account open for 90 days to be sure all deposits have cleared before closing it.

A lot of what you posted was my first thought also. Are they wanting to do this? Sometimes removing them from their surroundings and friends is the worse that can be done at such a time.

Good luck in what ever you decide.
 
2) How do transfer medical records?
They would need to request, in writing, that their current medical providers transfer their medical records to specific new medical providers.
 
I would talk to someone in a tv store about moving the large screen tv. Some items just do not hold up well to moves and if it doesn't work when it arrives, unless it has visible damage, you will pay to replace it. I would probably sell the large screen tv and buy a new one--they are so cheap now. Do they need to move the other 3 tvs?? Those could be sold and then replaced as needed as well.

I, too, would get an estimate on the cost of moving the items then weigh that against selling those items and buying new ones--other than the knick knacks and clothes--in CA.

We moved my mom from one state to another, so do check on pensions and insurance coverage. They will need to redo their will, power of attorney, medical wishes, etc. Check with an Eldercare attorney in your area--they are very helpful and know so much!

Medical records transferring are the least of your worries--there is a form that will be filled out at the new doctor's office. Be aware though, that some offices charge per page to copy medical records.
 





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