Moussaoui Gets Life

[Disney1fan2002]

Can a judge order life in prison, with no contact to the outside? I would hate to think, that he will have visitor's and phone call's so he can help plan another big attack.

Life in Solitary sounds good, but then the other prisoner's couldn't get to him.

 

[Microcell]

I am happy that he got life in prison. They say he will have minimal human contact. Let him rot in there! I am sure they can't put him even near the general population - someone will kill him in there!

I was sort of hoping they would put him with general population. they would have taken care of him inside of a week.

 

[Chuck S]

Can a judge order life in prison, with no contact to the outside? I would hate to think, that he will have visitor's and phone call's so he can help plan another big attack.

Life in Solitary sounds good, but then the other prisoner's couldn't get to him.

From what I've seen on TV the jury didn't believe this guy was really capable of planning that sort of thing, more like he was a bit player. He is certainly an enthusiastic fundamentalist, but he evidently isn't too bright, and certainly not as bright as he thinks he is. Remember, the jury saw him in person, all of his remarks, testimony and body language all through the trial. They must have seen something that the general public/casual observer wouldn't see.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

frankly, I think he got exactly what he deserved. if he'd gottent he death penalty he would have been a martyr for the cause, a "hero" in his own eyes and that of the other members of Al Queada.

giving him life makes him just another petty criminal in a jail cell. one who'll be forgotten after a while -- does anyone remember the names of the terrrorists who were convicted in the 1993 Trade Center bombing?

I agree totally. Let the man rot in jail

 

[mickeyfan2]

frankly, I think he got exactly what he deserved. if he'd gottent he death penalty he would have been a martyr for the cause, a "hero" in his own eyes and that of the other members of Al Queada.

giving him life makes him just another petty criminal in a jail cell. one who'll be forgotten after a while -- does anyone remember the names of the terrrorists who were convicted in the 1993 Trade Center bombing?

This is my opinion too. I did not want us to make him a martyr.

 

[mickeyfan2]

I hope he makes lots of "friends" (named Bubba)

I second this.

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

Keep him in a cell with Bubba. He will get what is comming to him. Heck put him in a cell with Scott Peterson. Bet that would make wonderful reality T.V.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Also isn't seeing another male naked a sin in Islam?

 

[mickeyfan2]

if I were god I'd make him do 3,000,000 years of community service!!

This with your other posts makes me .

 

[mickeyfan2]

Is Bush going to free him? whats that all about?

Now I am even more .

 

[dianeschlicht]

How did they ever find the OJ jury for this trial? Listening to the roll call of what the jury found him responsible for and they still gave him life. Really, I just don't get it.

Now we can wait for the nut cases to hijack a plane or blow up a embassy somewhere demanding for him to be released.

As others have said, it is the PERFECT sentence for him. He WANTED to die, because it would make him a martyr, and that is what his society admires. We would be doing him a favor if we killed him. This was indeed the best way.

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

I have only read part of the post but I agreed with the verdict. At first I thought he should be put to death than I realized that is what he wants. Now I hope he lives to be an old man living in a cell. Let him deal with all the men in prison. I hope they welcome him with open arms!

 

[cactus]

I rember he had his friends want to pollute the water supplies here in Canton.

idiots.

 

[Big Dude]

They do not allow inmates to co-mingle at the facility he is going to. As a matter of fact, the 1 hour recreation period per day is hardly used because they are led to another cell that is just a little bigger than their own 12 X 7 surroundings. Even if they are to use the rec hour, they do so alone. According to the website for Supermax here are the answers to a couple of survey questions:

Supermax Inmate SurveyHow often do you yourself go to rec?

Never. (40)
"Every blue moon."
"Hardly ever."
"Not that much."
"I have gone to the outdoors 'closet' once in the 8 months I've been here at SMCI."
"I came here and stopped going to rec and now they don't even ask no-one if they want to go so no-one goes."
Maybe once every few months.
Twice in eight months.
Once since arrival four months ago. (2)
Once since arrival; won't go back.
Went a few times since arrival but do not go anymore.
Once a month. (2)
Have gone about 10 times in four months.
Have gone 5 times in three months.
Went once, 8 months ago. ( 2)
Once in nine months.
"Out of nine months, six times total. It's very depressing. It's like being in a bigger cell."
"What rec?"
Three times a week. (2)
"I go to rec three times a week but I should be able to go five times a week."
"SMCI rules state four hours per week, but in fact we on Foxtrot Unit are only allowed three hours per week."
"Cundo estos Guardias le dan la gana despues que tu ponga forma pidendo recreo." (When these guards feel like it after you formally request rec.)
(Several answered how often they're allowed to go, not how often they themselves actually go.)

Supermax Inmate SurveyReasons for not going to rec (volunteered)

"I don't call that rec. I need air."
Lack of ventilation. (several mentioned)
"I will not go to rec in a glorified dog cage."
"It's like a tiger being placed in a brick cage. I'd rather stay in my cell all day."
Forced to choose between the law library and recreation. (4)
Fear of being assaulted by staff. (2)
"I have never been to the kennel. Another part of degrading us."
No exercise equipment. (several mentioned) ("They have just recently informed us that upon reaching level four, we would be provided with 'limited equipment'. I have asked the staff upon this unit what this consisted of, and was informed it was to be a ball.")
Searches, confiscation of property, including legal material, while out of cell. "I'm tired of having to clean up my cell following a search, each time you step out of your cell."
No different from cell, just another room with camera.
The rec cage has nothing inside -- no toilet, sink, no distress button to alert staff if a medical emergency should occur, you are not allowed to bring water container to drink from, the cage is not larger than my cell and the ventilation is very poor. In effect, this is no rec being offered because the conditions are worse than the cell, so rec is not an option.
No hat/gloves/thermal underwear in winter.
Can't see the outside.
"I'm not walking around in a garage."
"We have more recreation options in our cells."
"They could at least have a chin-up bar or something to get somebody motivated."
"I might as well just walk in circles in my cell. It's all I'd do there."
"Not worth it."
"I haven't fought in no one's war. So I see no reason to go to rec in a dog cage, or little room. I could exercise in my own room-cell and go wash up right after I do so."
"There is nothing but four walls there. I can't see or talk to anyone and can't do anything else at rec that I can also do in my cell."
"That isn't rec, you go out to a bare room with nothing in it, no toilet, no sink for water, no ball, you can't run because of the way the floor is leveled."
"I went to recreation one time and I refuse to go again since it is nothing but a room with a small hole in a wall. There's no sunshine, blue skies, green grass, birds, or recreation equipment. I was a very active person, I worked at recreation at two different prisons and participated in all of the sports. As far as I'm concerned SMCI has no rec."
"I became so depressed with the environ of the rec and concerned for my health there that I have not been there since 4 months. The environ in rec made me feel as if I had been thrown in an abandoned dry well. All cement, grey, with the only opening coming from a small vent at the top. The room smelled so vile from old urine and there were hundreds of gobs of spit all over the wall and floor because inmates have no other place to dispose of that waste. It is very unhealthy. There is no exercise equipment, no sunlight, etc. I lasted 10 minutes in there before I started to scream to be removed."
"I'm not allowed to go to rec since I can not get back in security chair." (uses wheelchair).

Adam aka Big Dude

 

[MouseWorshipin]

They do not allow inmates to co-mingle at the facility he is going to.

They do have guards, right? American guards?

 

[Big Dude]

They do have guards, right? American guards?

Yep, but a lot of things changed after a 2005 inmate murder (he was murdered by other inmates). Then, prisoners were allowed to co-mingle now, not so. I'm sure the corrections officers will treat him "fairly" but chances are slim that he will be dealt with ala Geoffrey Dahmer. That would just bring accusations against a guard.

Discovery Channel is re-airing its show about Supermax on May 26th at 7:00 am EST and again at 2:00 am the next morning. It is pretty interesting and a good watch.


Adam aka Big Dude

 

[scubamouse]

If he were martyred he'd get 72 virgins, I think a better punishment is 72 Bubbas!

 

[Gonz Of Lancashire]

Apparently, he was only a bit-part player in 9/11, and seems rather puffed-up on his own importance. Whilst I understand people wanting the death penalty (and believe me, I totally support the notion), it was not the right thing in this case. Muslim extremists thrive on this sort of thing, and executing him would help recruit even more impressionable youngsters. Leave him jail, treat him like the s**t that he is, and hope he gets a good kicking every once in a while. He'll be forgotten before too long, and that will really p*ss him off, rather than revelling in the glory of being on Death Row.

 

[nuke]

This guy is a nothing. He failed as a terrorist and he failed at becoming a martyr by getting life in prison. The sentence is perfect for him.

 

[CathrynRose]

If he were martyred he'd get 72 virgins, I think a better punishment is 72 Bubbas!

Hehehehe - nice way of putting it!