More on WL Roaring Forks rerurb.

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As was stated they are offering an alternative place to get food, so Disney doesn't owe you anything. I don't think they upgrade every guest just because they are redoing their food court. By the way, I feel sad that you use your daughter as a "tool" to help get a room upgrade. Money is a tool you earn. Why not use that?
 
When we check into the WL in the Spring..I'm gonna have both of my daughters wrapped up gauze..then they can crawl up to the front desk when I'm checking in and cough and drool on the floor and ask if they can see the pool from the room since with all their injuries (remember the gauze from head to toe) they won't be allowed to go into the water...I can see it now...crying CM's at the front desk...we'll be in the Honeymoon suite for sure!! :rotfl:

Just joking of course...if I tried to get my two daughters to ask questions on cue..I'd have to drag them away from the rocking chairs in front of the fire place and give them scripts to read!! Plus pay them in Disney Dollars :rotfl2:
 
Sorry you all feal that way. I have ZERO issues with it. We just happen to make a good team I guess.

Again use what you tools you have.

"If you're not cheatin, you're not trying hard enough"

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Got Quattro? said:
"If you're not cheatin, you're not trying hard enough"

Wow. Remind me to hold you up as an example my students when I get back to school on Monday. Pull up this post when your precious baby is kicked out of college for purchasing her term paper. :rolleyes2


Melissa
 
:confused3 That's the trouble with this country today , too many people think it is perfectly okay to cheat to get "What's owed to them"!!!! Personally, I pay for what I want or politely ask. If I do or don't get an up-grade fine!!!!! Way to go to teach your child it 's okay to cheat!!!! :smooth:
 
Got Quattro? said:
Sorry you all feal that way. I have ZERO issues with it. We just happen to make a good team I guess.

Again use what you tools you have.

"If you're not cheatin, you're not trying hard enough"

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Wow! I certainly hope this is just a joke!
 
I have no problem with Quattro's approach. If you don't ask, you don't get. Besides, if there wasn't a room upgrade available, they wouldn't get it. This isn't any different than looking for a discount code that you knew nothing about until seeing it on this web site, and then using it to get a discount.

I'll take any other tips Quattro has to share.
 
I think there is a distinction, though, between taking advantage of a benefit that the resort is offering, and trying to manipulate the resort into offering you a limited-availability benefit typically intended to compensate guests for actual damages incurred. There are many examples where unsavory tactics used by some guests have invariably forced implementation of policy changes that adversely affect all guests, as well as the resort.

Even before such loop-holes are closed, there are negative ramifications for the general public. The emotional energy needed to deal with the public shouldn't be trivialized and wasted via manipluation. When emotional energy is expended in reaction to the CM being misled in the manner being discussed, it saps some of that CM's ability to provide the same level of quality service for the rest of their shift. So basically, it's a form of unjust enrichment.

Calling manipulation "using tools" does make it seem more palatable, but is really just another subtle deception, making those actions sound more attractive to good folks like you, highlander. It highlights the slippery-slope associated with defending such tactics.

Those are the reasons why so many people react so negatively to advocacy of such tactics. It is a little like the guy hiking through a national forest who doesn't see the harm in littering. After all, since the litter is behind him, it doesn't detract from his personal experience, and since the forest is so isolated, he'll never get caught. Yet, his action affects us all negatively, anyway. There is a big push in this country to safeguard our national standard of personal accountability and integrity, which seems to be declining sharply. While individual actions such as those we are discussing here seem to be only minor contributors to that decline, or even tangential to it, the impact is still significant, when taken together with all such actions.
 
I'm wondering at what age it becomes inappropriate for your daughter to use the "tool" of her looks? And I am hoping at some point you think it is inappropriate. Or will you be pulling the same act when she is 16?
 
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