Monorails to no longer operate during Evening Extra Magic Hours

[TLSnell1981]

I didn't say anybody lacks wisdom, and I'd appreciate not having words put in my mouth. I said, "despite common wisdom..." which advises using WDW transportation to get to/from the Magic Kingdom even if you drive everywhere else, for speed and convenience: board transportation, get delivered to MK, debark, proceed to bag check and turnstiles.
Vs: get in personal vehicle, drive to MK lot, park, board tram, debark tram, approach ferry or any open monorail, traverse Seven Seas Lagoon, debark, proceed to bag check...

Your opinion and preference...period.

 

[asta]

This post is quite mean. If you read my ticker and have read my past posts, I have stayed at the Poly, CR and now own at BLT. We love the BLT and stayed there for an extended stay last month. We have two more trips to BLT next year.

yes, I'm so jealous of those elitists at the monorail resorts.

And BTW, we rent a car anymore to avoid the buses. This was after the worst bus service we had being at the AKL -- another Disney dump that makes me so jealous of those at other resorts.

It is ironic that you see a mean tone after the things that you are posting. My tone is in response to some very mean spirited things you are posting. It doesn't matter where you are staying, your comment about the monorail resort guests deserving to be packed on buses like everyone else can only be explained as jealousy.

 

[sandym718]

The bolded has got to be the funniest thing I've read on this thread.



Wanting your own transportation system is an elitist idea IMO,

well, I'm so glad you got a laugh at my expense. I guess I should have been more clear. What I meant was --- it's not about not wanting to share the monorail with ANY other people, or people from whatever resort, it's about overcrowding. And I really have not heard anyone saying they want their own transportation system. Nearly everyone has discussed restrictions ONLY at very limited times IF overcrowding might warrant it.

And while you may perceive some of us as being elitist, your comments may be leading to some unkind perceptions as well.

 

[sandym718]

It is ironic that you see a mean tone after the things that you are posting.

yep

 

[brunette8706]

Disagree. Walt Disney World purposely built Monorail stations at the Contemporary, Polynesian, and Grand Floridian for the Resort Monorail to stop at those resorts. If you check any of the WDW literature showing the benefits and the "amenities" of each of these resorts, they clearly state the use and convenience of being on the Monorail line. You might not think that "it's an amenity for the guests of those four properties", but WDW surely does.

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Yes, it's an "amenity" for those staying at the monorail resorts, but it also a "benefit" for those staying elsewhere in Orlando. Your ticket price no matter where you stay (motel 6 to the Ritz Carlton, to the values) includes "all WDW transportation"

 

[KSDisneyDad]

well, I'm so glad you got a laugh at my expense. I guess I should have been more clear. What I meant was --- it's not about not wanting to share the monorail with ANY other people, or people from whatever resort, it's about overcrowding. And I really have not heard anyone saying they want their own transportation system. Nearly everyone has discussed restrictions ONLY at very limited times IF overcrowding might warrant it.

And while you may perceive some of us as being elitist, your comments may be leading to some unkind perceptions as well.

How many times do I have to say that I don't believe the poster is elitist, but that the idea of exclusive transportation (even if it's only for three hours a day) comes across as elitist. There is a difference and I'm sorry you cannot separate the two concepts.

This whole tangential debate/argument is becoming quite tedious. I've said many times that we should just agree to disagree, but no one else seems to want to extend the olive branch.

 

[Planogirl]

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Yes, it's an "amenity" for those staying at the monorail resorts, but it also a "benefit" for those staying elsewhere in Orlando. Your ticket price no matter where you stay (motel 6 to the Ritz Carlton, to the values) includes "all WDW transportation"

I agree. I fail to see the logic of arguing over whether something should be reserved for certain people when it clearly is not.

 

[KSDisneyDad]

It is ironic that you see a mean tone after the things that you are posting. My tone is in response to some very mean spirited things you are posting. It doesn't matter where you are staying, your comment about the monorail resort guests deserving to be packed on buses like everyone else can only be explained as jealousy.

It has not been my intent to be mean-spirited. I was just trying to point out the opposite side of your position. You state that it's NOT okay for monorail resort guests to be crowded. The opposite means that it's OKAY for non-monorail resorts to be crowded. But when the flipside is highlighted for you to see, it is somehow mean-spirited. This goes to not only show that perception = reality as I've been saying, but that your point of view greatly affects your perception of other's posts.

As a monorail resort guest myself, I want to express that not everyone who stays at the monorail resorts feels this way.

And Jealousy? I just don't get that "argument" at all unless when I advocate sharing. Perhaps you've ran out of logical points to debate.

If I understand your point, it is that it is okay for everyone else to experience overcrowding, but since you paid for a monorail resort, it's not okay for you. I disagree. Isn't it okay to disagree?

 

[KSDisneyDad]

I agree. I fail to see the logic of arguing over whether something should be reserved for certain people when it clearly is not.

red herring When was the last post on monorails closing during Evening EMH?

 

[sandym718]

How many times do I have to say that I don't believe the poster is elitist, but that the idea of exclusive transportation (even if it's only for three hours a day) comes across as elitist. There is a difference and I'm sorry you cannot separate the two concepts.

This whole tangential debate/argument is becoming quite tedious. I've said many times that we should just agree to disagree, but no one else seems to want to extend the olive branch.

Drop the condescending responses, like this one, and you might have more luck. I for one agree to disagree with you for sure. But you keep name calling and being rude while others are discussing options, ideas, thoughts. *I* am sorry you can't see that. No matter, moving on.....

I still don't know if this overcrowding will really even be a problem. How many, who have been to emh and the parties, unlike myself (yet- kids are getting older so evening emh is in the plans next trip), think the crowds will be heavy at the time discussed? Meaning - after express monorail has stopped but resort is still going, assuming that does happen.

 

[brunette8706]

I agree. I fail to see the logic of arguing over whether something should be reserved for certain people when it clearly is not.

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Hey Planogirl!

LOL! Yeah, this thread is kinda getting on my nerves, but I keep coming back to it, even though I should have been in bed an hour ago! LOL!

 

[TLSnell1981]

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Yes, it's an "amenity" for those staying at the monorail resorts, but it also a "benefit" for those staying elsewhere in Orlando. Your ticket price no matter where you stay (motel 6 to the Ritz Carlton, to the values) includes "all WDW transportation"

Okay, Disney is closing the Express Monorail, one hour, after regular park hours. The Resort Monorail is open, until 11p (maybe, exclusively for MK resort guests..???). Disney is offering bus or ferries to resorts/TTC...EEMH and possibly parties. So, they may not offer the same mode for every guest...but every guest receives WDW transportation. Although, this won't work? Imagine if, all guests, are able to access, the Resort Monorail..? Holy Moly!! That will be a nightmare.

We're back to where we started..no monorail service, one hour, after regular park hours?

 

[brunette8706]

Drop the condescending responses, like this one, and you might have more luck. I for one agree to disagree with you for sure. But you keep name calling and being rude while others are discussing options, ideas, thoughts. *I* am sorry you can't see that. No matter, moving on.....

I still don't know if this overcrowding will really even be a problem. How many, who have been to emh and the parties, unlike myself (yet- kids are getting older so evening emh is in the plans next trip), think the crowds will be heavy at the time discussed? Meaning - after express monorail has stopped but resort is still going, assuming that does happen.

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Hi! Yes, I think they will be heavy. The crowds will be even heavier during the peak holidays for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Eve. Personally, I don't think Disney really gives a flying fig about how crowded the crowds are. They just want to get people on the monorail (Express and Resort), bus and or boat, and get them out of the parks safely.

 

[brunette8706]

Okay, Disney is closing the Express Monorail, one hour, after regular park hours. The Resort Monorail is open, until 11p (maybe, exclusively for MK resort guests..???). Disney is offering bus or ferries to resorts/TTC...EEMH and possibly parties. So, they may not offer the same mode for every guest...but every guest receives WDW transportation. Although, this won't work? Imagine if, all guests, are able to access, the Resort Monorail..? Holy Moly!! That will be a nightmare.

We're back to where we started..no monorail service, one hour, after regular park hours?

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Okay, it's late. LOL! Why am I confused!????????? Doesn't it state on your ticket and brochures that the price of your ticket includes all of WDW transportation?

 

[KSDisneyDad]

Drop the condescending responses, like this one, and you might have more luck. I for one agree to disagree with you for sure. But you keep name calling and being rude while others are discussing options, ideas, thoughts. *I* am sorry you can't see that. No matter, moving on.....

I still don't know if this overcrowding will really even be a problem. How many, who have been to emh and the parties, unlike myself (yet- kids are getting older so evening emh is in the plans next trip), think the crowds will be heavy at the time discussed? Meaning - after express monorail has stopped but resort is still going, assuming that does happen.

I know we disagree on this, but I am trying my best not to name-call. I have used the word elitist to express how I perceive the idea itself. I can see how that has been misconstrued and I apologize for that. It doesn't change my opinion about the idea itself though.

Hardly anyone on this thread is beyond reproach. There have been some of us who have disagreed with the complaining who have remained thick-skinned enough to continue to point out the flaws in the logic. A discussion does mean discussing both sides.

But I do agree that we should move on.

To answer your real question. I have said many times that I don't believe that this timeframe one-hour after closing to 11:00 pm will be that crowded. The biggest crowds leave right after the fireworks. Two monorails will run at that time. After that until 11:00 pm shouldn't be nearly as bad IMO and from my experience. YMMV

On our trip last month, we returned to the BLT on the resort monorail after the express monorail shut down for the night so the resort monorail was the only one running. We had no problems with crowding despite only one monorail running. And this was while lines at the MK were still 30 to 45 minutes long at the mountains.

 

[KSDisneyDad]

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Hi! Yes, I think they will be heavy. The crowds will be even heavier during the peak holidays for Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Eve. Personally, I don't think Disney really gives a flying fig about how crowded the crowds are. They just want to get people on the monorail (Express and Resort), bus and or boat, and get them out of the parks safely.

I've agreed with most of your recent posts. I did want to point out that during peak times, shouldn't both monorails be running 1 hour past closing time? Thus, at Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years, both monorails should be running very late at night depending on park closing time. I don't know when the park closes, but I would think at least 10:00 pm or later which means both monorails will be going. I think the concern is that during non-peak times, there could be crowds from the time starting one-hour after closing until 11:00 pm.

 

[TLSnell1981]

. Personally, I don't think Disney really gives a flying fig about how crowded the crowds are. They just want to get people on the monorail (Express and Resort), bus and or boat, and get them out of the parks afely.

Sadly, this is probably the truth. I guess, this brings me back to an original question...why are they discontinuing, the Express Monorail service, one hour, after regular park hours? if, this only affects EEMH, is this the end of "free" late nights?

** my iPad is "cutting" text, without my input.**

 

[TLSnell1981]

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Okay, it's late. LOL! Why am I confused!????????? Doesn't it state on your ticket and brochures that the price of your ticket includes all of WDW transportation?

I'm over 40..(okay. 50 ) I can't read, the fine print, OR remember, what it stated..WHEN I COULD (see it)!

 

[asta]

Drop the condescending responses, like this one, and you might have more luck. I for one agree to disagree with you for sure. But you keep name calling and being rude while others are discussing options, ideas, thoughts. *I* am sorry you can't see that. No matter, moving on.....

I still don't know if this overcrowding will really even be a problem. How many, who have been to emh and the parties, unlike myself (yet- kids are getting older so evening emh is in the plans next trip), think the crowds will be heavy at the time discussed? Meaning - after express monorail has stopped but resort is still going, assuming that does happen.

Thank you for very kindly responding to this poster, something I was not able to do. It is usually better to respond to rudeness with kindness but it is sometimes hard to learn that lesson. With emotion clouding this issue, it is time to move on.

As far as overcrowding being an problem, the July EMH that we have attended have been very crowded. Several times the resort monorail on the way to the MK arrived packed in the early evening that everyone could not board at the GF. This is early while the express monorail is still running, I can't imagine how bad it would be if it were the only one running.

 

[brunette8706]

I've agreed with most of your recent posts. I did want to point out that during peak times, shouldn't both monorails be running 1 hour past closing time? Thus, at Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years, both monorails should be running very late at night depending on park closing time. I don't know when the park closes, but I would think at least 10:00 pm or later which means both monorails will be going. I think the concern is that during non-peak times, there could be crowds from the time starting one-hour after closing until 11:00 pm.


Hey there KSDisneyDad-

You seem like a reasonable person. Originally I was thinking the RESORT MONORAIL only stopped at the resorts but it doesn't it does stop at the TTC also! I'm laughing at this now, because none of this really matters, does it? LOL! Anyway, the other EXPRESS monorail stops at the MK and TTC. I didn't realize this originally, my husband set me straight on that one, LOL! Okay, with that said, I agree I would think both monorails should be running late especially during those busy holiday times. Maybe all of this is just a "pilot" or "dry run" to see how things will run. Who knows. I know after a long day in the parks adults and especially children, just want to get back to their hotel/resort. If they stop service at 11 p.m. I think there will be a lot of unhappy campers.