Monorails to no longer operate during Evening Extra Magic Hours

[Oglet]

Definition of Cut back. Babylon English. cut down on, reduce something, use less of something

Sorry...its a Cutback.... calling it something else might make it sound better...but in the end it is what it is.....

I think the real problem that seems to be escaping many here is that it is not why they are doing this blah blah blah...

BUT rather HOW they allowed the system and the monorail trains to get to this point where they HAVE to make this change. Let us remember that late nights were part of the MK equation before EMH entered the mix..... so Ask the question that needs to be asked: Why did the funds that were clearly needed not injected into the monorail transportation department in the amounts truly needed to allow the transportation department to do the tasks they needed to do..... ??????? We should remember though that the monorail transportation department and its workers have done a super job and that it is not their fault that some bean counter robbed the funds needed to pad profits or whatever.

I honestly believe that they had every intention of replacing the fleet of monorails and did not think this would be a issue, extra hours and a heavier work load concerns were put aside on the assumption the fleet would be replaced around the same age as the originals were.

Now for a variety of reasons its obvious that the trains are not going to be replaced anytime soon so now they need a new plan.

 

[mom2rtk]

Now for a variety of reasons its obvious that the trains are not going to be replaced anytime soon so now they need a new plan.

I think they have their plan. Extra sleep every night.

 

[Sammie]

It allows them extra time during the week to do needed repairs.

 

[Wadecool]

They were referring to private parties. You can now rent out the monorail on EMH nights and ride around WDW, partying. Book yours today!

Giddy up! Let's get a bunch of Disers to chip and rent one of those suckers. You bring the keg and I'll bring the gasoline powered margarita blender.

I'm picturing the party train scene at the end of the movie Trading Places.

 

[Sammie]

Paying customers - although doesn't that include everyone? - need transportation, not necessarily the monorail. Walt Disney World has already replaced the after-10 PM EPCOT monorail with buses to the MK-area resorts and the TTC. I don't read the Trip Report Board, but I haven't seen anything negative on the Transportation Board...and there've already been at least two EMH nights.

The plan at this point is to substitute buses for the monorail trains starting one hour after regular park closing time. I still don't trust the DVC Board rumor. If buses are working to/from Epcot, there's no reason to think they won't work at the Magic Kingdom except, frankly, guest responses.

I also was not able to get anyone at Disney to confirm the DVC board statement. In fact they said it was not accurate.

I guess time will tell.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Giddy up! Let's get a bunch of Disers to chip and rent one of those suckers. You bring the keg and I'll bring the gasoline powered margarita blender.

I'm picturing the party train scene at the end of the movie Trading Places.

I don't think we can bring our own. I think Disney has to cater it

 

[brunette8706]

They were referring to private parties. You can now rent out the monorail on EMH nights and ride around WDW, partying. Book yours today!

 

[brunette8706]

They were referring to private parties. You can now rent out the monorail on EMH nights and ride around WDW, partying. Book yours today!

 

[brunette8706]

Definition of Cut back. Babylon English. cut down on, reduce something, use less of something

Sorry...its a Cutback.... calling it something else might make it sound better...but in the end it is what it is.....

I think the real problem that seems to be escaping many here is that it is not why they are doing this blah blah blah...

BUT rather HOW they allowed the system and the monorail trains to get to this point where they HAVE to make this change. Let us remember that late nights were part of the MK equation before EMH entered the mix..... so Ask the question that needs to be asked: Why did the funds that were clearly needed not injected into the monorail transportation department in the amounts truly needed to allow the transportation department to do the tasks they needed to do..... ??????? We should remember though that the monorail transportation department and its workers have done a super job and that it is not their fault that some bean counter robbed the funds needed to pad profits or whatever.

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You make some valid points!

 

[brunette8706]

Do I really see people arguing about opinions? I don't see too many hard facts here but rather a lot of assumptions and personal opinions.

It sounds like Disney needs to replace the monorails or at least completely rebuild them. Wouldn't it be wise to take one or two offline and completely rebuild them rather than cut back a few hours? I don't see how a few hours helps.

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Hey there Planogirl!

Sound logical to me.

 

[Oglet]

It's been in the works for a long time. First they change the rules to allow booze on the monorail and then they cut back on its hours so it can run as a party train...

 

[nytimez]

It's been in the works for a long time. First they change the rules to allow booze on the monorail and then they cut back on its hours so it can run as a party train...

Sources tell me Disney is working with Don Cornelius on a "Soul Monorail" concept. Stay tuned.

 

[Arnir]

It's been in the works for a long time. First they change the rules to allow booze on the monorail and then they cut back on its hours so it can run as a party train...

Now that's a conspiracy theory that many people can support.

 

[TLSnell1981]

It's been in the works for a long time. First they change the rules to allow booze on the monorail and then they cut back on its hours so it can run as a party train...

Yep. Another mystery solved by DISers! And, it only took, 17 days, 14 hours 27 minutes..140 pages, 2091 posts, AND 472 DISagreements..

 

[Oglet]

Yep. Another mystery solved by DISers! And, it only took, 17 days, 14 hours 27 minutes..140 pages, 2091 posts, AND 472 DISagreements..

And wait for it.... drum roll..... Breaking News.....

It's the real reason Pleasure Island was closed... Think about it!

 

[TLSnell1981]

And wait for it.... drum roll..... Breaking News.....

It's the real reason Pleasure Island was closed... Think about it!

Definitely, an Arsenio Hall "thing", that makes you go..Hmmmm!

 

[Wadecool]

It's been in the works for a long time. First they change the rules to allow booze on the monorail and then they cut back on its hours so it can run as a party train...

Now, there's a party I'd definitely buy tickets for!

 

[Cafeen]

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As you seem to be an expert on my thought process, I see no point continuing a discussion with this subject any further with you. As you also seem to come to the conclusion that anyone that disagrees with your point of view can not be correct in their assessment of what they see, it would be futile to go any further. That being said, in my opinion you have written nothing that shows that I am wrong in my judgement. Further, seeing as you brought it up, there is no more "hyperbole" in my words than they are in yours.

Have A Magical Day

While you said you won't discuss this, I'm still going to respond.

The impasse is that you can't recognize that the monorails may need more maintenance time. While I accept your viewpoint and even incorporate it into mine, you don't accept mine and even acknowledge it's possible. You outright call the thought that they could be getting on there in years and need more time than previous as absurd. You claim that you don't believe a single word of the reasoning released by those who know the system best. You only choose to view it through the eyes of someone so disillusioned that they see bad everywhere they look.

That's disheartening.

If I state that the cutbacks are likely, and I even wholly agree are part of the solution, will you recognize that the maintenance may also be part of it? Whether you truly believe it is or not doesn't matter, but you've been going on as it's not even a possibility. In fact, that it's absurd to even think of it.

I'm not trying to change your view that cutbacks are involved, only that they may only be a piece of the puzzle. The size of that piece is up to individual judgement, but that they're only part of the whole.

In either case, once the closure comes, we'll be able to see for ourselves, as if there's lesser downtime, then they're doing something right. If it's the same, and there's no work done on the beams or the trains, then it is only about cutbacks, and at which point, I'll whole-heartedly agree.

 

[TLSnell1981]

While you said you won't discuss this, I'm still going to respond.

The impasse is that you can't recognize that the monorails may need more maintenance time. While I accept your viewpoint and even incorporate it into mine, you don't accept mine and even acknowledge it's possible. You outright call the thought that they could be getting on there in years and need more time than previous as absurd. You claim that you don't believe a single word of the reasoning released by those who know the system best. You only choose to view it through the eyes of someone so disillusioned that they see bad everywhere they look.

That's disheartening.

If I state that the cutbacks are likely, and I even wholly agree are part of the solution, will you recognize that the maintenance may also be part of it? Whether you truly believe it is or not doesn't matter, but you've been going on as it's not even a possibility. In fact, that it's absurd to even think of it.

I'm not trying to change your view that cutbacks are involved, only that they may only be a piece of the puzzle. The size of that piece is up to individual judgement, but that they're only part of the whole.

In either case, once the closure comes, we'll be able to see for ourselves, as if there's lesser downtime, then they're doing something right. If it's the same, and there's no work done on the beams or the trains, then it is only about cutbacks, and at which point, I'll whole-heartedly agree.

Party pooper.

 

[Arnir]

Will the general public be able to tell if extra monorail maintenance is acutally being done?

I can see Disney doing this for both reduced costs and extra maintenance plus service life extension. They aren't mutually exclusive. But I doubt if we will ever really know for sure why it is being done.