Mom is on overload getting ready for our trip!

jenandkids

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Seriously though, I wanted to thank all of the previous posters who have taken time to give recommendations, opinions, thoughts and support in this forum! I have spent days reading, and wanted to tell you that all the information has been very appreciated!

Especially all of the Stroller suggestions. DH thinks our DS does not need to be in a stroller- HAHAHAHAHA. He thinks we do not need to get a double stroller and can just bring our single one for our almost 3 year old. :lmao:

We are going to WDW in 2 weeks for our first time! We went to DL two years ago- and it was ROUGH! We only were there for 2 days (DH was not able to go, so it was just grandparents and my two boys). My DS had not been diagnosed with Asperger's or ADHD at the time (though we figured the ADHD part).

I am really trying to read all that I can to help us make this trip a great success! My DS is now 6 and mom has learned about great things such as the GAC! (OMG, how that would have helped 2 years ago).

We went just last week to see the Disney Christmas Carol Train when it was here in our town. I was reminded just how much my DS can not handle the over stimulation. I was surprised that they did not have a "quiet" place for SN children. It would have really helped (and if mom would have remembered ear plugs).

Now, if anyone has suggestions on how to help my son deal with the "characters"- that would be awesome! He has a fear of them! I have pulled up all of the pictures of the characters to show him, plus we are making our own autograph book with a picture of each character. I am talking it up big time- but still worry about when that first character comes near :scared1:
 
Hey there, and :welcome: to our happy little home :goodvibes! Sounds like you've already got a lot of good information, but I'll add what I can.

CERTAINLY use a stroller for both boys! Even a lot of NT kids use strollers around Disney at the age of 6. If you want to convince hubby, just tell him that the average Guest walks between 6-10 miles a day! Try doing that on legs that are less than two foot long :scared1:.

I know it would be more of a hassle, but you might want to consider taking your stroller for your younger son, and renting a single stroller for your older son. I think that letting each of the boys have their own space would releave a lot of stress. The double strollers don't have a divider between the two kids, so they would be sitting right next to each other. If your older son gets stressed (especially with the heat and humidity), it could lead to fights or meltdowns, which you really don't want to have to deal with.

Also, if your older son has his own space, it can provide a safe haven for him to retreat to when things get overwhelming. You can even get a stamp on the GAC that allows you to take the stroller into lines (stroller as wheelchair), so that he can have a physical barrier between him and the other people in the crowd. Some people find it helps to drape a towel over the stroller canopy when things get too much, to make a completely enclosed 'cacoon' away from everything. Just make sure he has a fan in there to keep cool! He doesn't have to use the stroller all the time; you can park it up in the sroller parking when he needs to burn off some energy.

The Fastpass system is really useful, and will help you miss some of the longest lines. September is a nice quiet time, and a lot of rides will be walk-on (i.e. no line at all :woohoo:). For those that aren't, you can get a Fastpass ticket, go off and play elsewhere in the park, then come back between the allotted times and get on with very little wait! :thumbsup2 You might want to go through this system with your son, before you leave, so he knows what to expect and won't meltdown when you start walking away from the ride without going on it! Oh, and you need a pass for each person who wants to ride, and each person can only hold one Fastpass at a time.

You guys will probably need to be even more careful than most young families about taking regular breaks. Any tired child can get cranky, and if you add that to pre-existing issues, you're not in for a smooth ride :eek:. Go into the air-con at regular intervals, have lots to drink, and try to have your rests in quiet, low-stimulation places. Don't spend too long on Tom Sawyer's Island or at Animal Kingdom in one go, as neither of these place have very much air-conditioning, and the boys might over-heat. You may even decide to go back to the resort during the middle of the day, when it's hottest and busiest, to have a nap, a swim or just watch some cartoons.

Now on to the characters. Firstly, if he really can't handle them, you can just avoid taking him to them. They are often inside specially dedicated buildings, but when outside are off to the sides of walkways. For parades, they may come up to you, but if you give them a little head-shake, they should take the hint.

If you want to try meeting one, I would suggest picking a character from his favourite film, and try and find them in one of the inside spaces. Brief him before-hand, and make sure he knows that he can leave straight away if it gets too much for him. Explain to one of the handlers (the Cast Members that look after the characters) about your son's issues, and they can warn the character to take things slowly with him. It may be that he doesn't feel happy going up to them, but that's fine. Even if he just wants to stand and wave at them from a distance, nobody will mind. That said, I know that some people here have reported their Aspie kids running up to hug characters, when normally they would avoid contact with anyone where possible. Also, if it helps to set his mind at rest, you can tell him that I (supposedly a 'grown up' :rotfl:) am still a bit scared by Mickey (long story).

Try to avoid doing the water parks or Magic Kingdom on a weekend, as this is when a lot of local residents will visit, so they tend to be busier. The water parks are best on slightly over-cast days, as they're cooler and quieter (just warn the boys that you have to get out straight away if there is a thunderstorm warning broadcast over the speaker system).

Be prepared to do the same thing lots of times. I know a lot of Aspie kids love the train, for instance, and have to do three of four turns around the park before they're willing to do anything else. If necessary, you can split the group up sometimes, so that you can do different things; then meet up at a pre-arranged place and time. For instance, your younger one would probably enjoy the Playhouse Disney show, but it might be too stimulating for your older boy (lots of bright colours and music, and seating is just a large carpetted area).

Other than that, take things gently; be flexible with your plans; have some 'coping methods' planned out if things get too much (tell someone that you're feeling stressed, go into the stroller, cover your eyes, put ear-plugs in or listen to music on an MP3 player, get somewhere quiet, etc); make sure everyone has enough food, drink and sleep (a few emergency snacks and drinks might be a good idea); and most of all - have fun!!

You'll be arriving the same day we do, so if you see a couple of mad Brits trundling around, with a blonde woman in a decorated-up blue wheelchair (that would be me) do say hi! :wave:


Wow that was a long post! :eek:
 
We will have to keep an eye out for a blue decorated wheel chair then! That would be fun to run into someone at Disney! :goodvibes

Thank you for your awesome post! I may look on craigslist for a single stroller. My youngest has a deluxe Maclarean stroller-so there maybe fighting over it! lol
My friend has a dual graco stroller- which is tandem style that we can borrow. It is bulky and the front is missing its canopy, but keeping them apart may be very smart!

On a side note- we are currently watching A Bug's Life. I can't remember the last time we have... but my Aspie son just said "remember A Bug's Life" at Disney- you just rode around the place!" (he was still a couple months away from turning 4)..........I just love their memories!
 
My ds used to have trouble with Chucky Cheese and clowns, I think because they kept trying to interact with him (even tho I kept asking that they pass him by). It was so bad that he would actually try to kick or shove them when they turned their backs to leave.
We had to sit him down and explain proper behavior around costumed characters. We told him it was NOT okay to hurt them. It WAS okay to ignore them or turn and walk a safe distance away (but not leave the area).

Think of things like that, that fit your situation, that would work for your son. For example, you could tell your ds he can stand behind you when a character is there.

It's been awhile since we had this problem, but when we did, things went great at WDW. The characters don't force themselves on the kids. My ds would stand back and let his sister greet the characters. By the end of that trip, he would stand next to his sister (but not the character!) for pictures with them. The next trip we had no problems.
Some tips I got here about the character meals:
warn the hostess about the child's fear before being seated, and
if the restaurant has one, ask for a booth and seat the child on the inside of the booth, so that there is an adult between the character and the child. This worked perfectly for us.
I planned our character meal towards the end of our trip so that I had time to decide if it was really workable with my ds and his fear. I planned on cancelling if the characters were too overwhelming for him.
 

Chuck E Cheese is the one he absolutlely hates! lol

We will let them know about his fear- especially for that first character breakfast (Ohana's best friends).

I bet he will be ok... I am hoping! If not, I will get to go say hi with my younger son right!?!? :lmao:
 
Have you ever asked him why he's afraid? He might not be able to articulate it, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Also, are there any times when a mask or not seeing someone's face might have been extra frightening? I have a friend who even as an adult is incredibly afraid of masks on people and character or mascot costumes that cover the head because as a little kid she spent a lot of time in the hospital including some very major surgeries. So for her, not seeing a person's face is a flashback to being 4 when she couldn't see the surgeon's face and she was scared because she was about to have major surgery. Because she knows why, it's also helped her slowly figure out how to fight it. (Ironically she loves Disney although as far as characters go when she's in the park she sticks to the princesses or other characters where the CM isn't wearing anything over his or her face).

Otherwise I'd suggest trying to avoid the characters. It's not the end of the world if he doesn't get to hug Mickey and everyone will have a better trip if he's not being forced into it. If your other son would like to spend some time seeing characters, it may be an reason to split up for a while so that you take one kid and your husband takes the other.
 
A few more tips for the character breakfast:

As Ears said, tell the greeter CM what his problems are and how they can help you, before you get seated. They can then warn the characters to be gentle with him. your son is most certainly not the first child they will have encountered who has problems with the characters, so they'll know what to do. If someone is getting a little too close, you can always say that he's a bit scared, and needs to be treated gently. You might want to see if you can get a table in the corner of the room, so that he doesn't feel 'surrounded' by them. If you decide to go this route, it's best to get that noted in the ADR.

Make sure he knows exactly what's going to happen, before you go. It might help him if you play out some social situations at home, so he can 'practice' how to deal with new things. For instance, you could pretend to be a character walking up to him (no costume or anything, just you telling him what you're pretending to be), and he could have a set phrase or set of actions to follow. For instance a simple "Please don't come too close", should be enough to get them to back off a little. Also, tell him that one of the grown-ups can take him off to the side at any time, if it all gets too much.

If he decides he can cope with the characters, you might want to help him think of something to say, just so he has a starting place for the interaction. Something simple like "I like your film", "you look nice" (probably more for the female characters than the male) or "are you behaving yourself?" for Stitch :goodvibes. Having an autograph book might also be good, as it gives him a nice clear start and end to the interaction.

If he really can't handle it, you may have to ask that the characters not approach your table. You and your younger boy can go around to meet them instead, and keep the table as a 'safe place'. I know it's not an ideal situation, but it's worth having in your back pocket, just in case you need it.


To help with lines, you might want to have something to keep him busy, in the stroller. A few small toys and / or a hand-held game console might help to keep him entertained and distracted while your waiting for rides. There is a Pal Mickey toy you can get (no idea how much it costs), that tells you things about the parks, and plays games. I have no idea how he'd react to it; some kids love it, others really don't. Also, if you got one, you might have to get two, so the boys didn't fight over it :rolleyes:.

He might enjoy looking for Hidden Mickeys. These are little Mickey shapes that the Imagineers (the ones who design the parks) have hidden everywhere around the parks. You can get a book with hints on where to find them fairly cheaply from Amazon, and it can be an interesting thing to keep going throughout the holiday. Also, it might help distract him from some of the more expensive forms of collecting available in Disney, such as pins and pressed pennies!


Woo! We're so close now!! Only 12 days to go! :woohoo:
 
I asked DS why he was afraid of characters- he said "because they are big, and do not look like humans". Fair enough :laughing:
 
I asked DS why he was afraid of characters- he said "because they are big, and do not look like humans". Fair enough :laughing:

Yup, I can understand that! You might want to start him off on some of the human characters, then. The Meet & Greets in the Worldshowcase, EPCOT might suit you guys quite well. They have characters from films set in that country (Mary Poppins for the UK, Belle for France, etc), they're all inside as far as I know (air-con!!), and might be a little calmer than some of the outside Meet & Greets. You should be able to get the times for the week from the regular time sheet, that lists shows and so on. You can also sometimes find Captain Sparrow in Adventureland, Magic Kingdom, if Mary Poppins and Belle are too girly :thumbsup2

I can't remember whether I said this or not, but if you get the 'stroller as wheelchair' GAC, you will also be able to use it in the wheelchair viewing areas for parades. I think this would be a huge help for you guys, as it would mean that your older son could stay in the stroller to watch the parade, without having to worry about people sailing in at the last minute and standing in front of him. They also tend to have some kind of back wall on them, so people can't crowd in from behind you. These areas can fill up fairly quickly, so you might want to have someone staking out the spot, but hopefully you shouldn't have too many problems, as September is nice and quiet. In Magic Kingdom, I'd suggest the viewing area in Liberty Square, as it's not usually as busy as the one by the castle, and is in shade (also, there's a nice wall at the back that the grown-ups can sit on to rest for a bit :thumbsup2).

Good luck with the flight next week, and we'll hopefully see you about at some point!
 
Good luck to you!

As far as the characters go, I would really back off on the whole idea if it were me. My daughter was afraid of them, so we just waved as we walked by them, and kept our distance. If I had suggested getting their autographs, it would have really scared her. I would also avoid any character meals. They come around to the tables, which is cool for many folks, but not for kids who may not be comfortable with it. We actually have never gotten autographs, and my kids have never wanted to anyway.

Hope it's a great trip!
 





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