Mission: Space" a centrifuge - get a physical before riding

[Brooknwdw]

The "joke" I suppose is the suggestion that people should get a physical before coming to WDW, as if it were a specifically hazardous thing to do. My understanding is that people are being sarcastic -- that stuff like this happens everywhere and at any time (the mall, the workplace, the car, etc.) -- we only hear about it when it happens someplace wonderful, where media outlets can get great ratings reporting it.

Oh okay, gotcha...and I agree to some extent. Things like that can happen anywhere, even walking down the street.

However, it wasn't suggested that everyone get a physical before going to Disney World, it was suggested that it may be a good idea for some to get a physical before riding attractions such as M:S with all the warning signs.

Some people may have a better time there, not having to worry that they, or their child, may have some rare undiagnosed illness that could be a time bomb waiting to go off. A slight paranoia aggravated by the bad press, perhaps.
I think that is all the OP was suggesting. Do you not think it is advisable in the least? Wouldn't that be an act of taking personal responsibility?

 

[Robo]

Do you not think it is advisable in the least? Wouldn't that be an act of taking personal responsibility?

Well, SURE... except that... are YOU going to do it?

Will the original POSTER do it?

Will ANYBODY do it?

Its kind of amusing to suggest that "everyone" make an appointment to get an examination and ask the doctor (out-of-the-blue), "Please check me to see if I might have a rare unexpected, unnoticed, health imperfection before I go to Disney World."

The idea that everyone MIGHT have a rare unexpected, unnoticed, health imperfection that would flare up at a theme park is the key point.

Consider that fully HALF (statistically speaking)... that's 50%... of those who died following a ride on M:S were under FIVE YEARS OLD.

(One four year old child, and One adult).

The "under 5" age-group would normally expect to have (statistically again) ZERO percent (or so) chance of having a serious health problem riding a theme-park attraction.

"Everyone" should do a LOT of things, but this is kind of low on the priority list of serious concerns.

The deaths are certainly no laughing matter, they are tragic.
But when it comes down to it, we "mortals" often try to "laugh at death"... it keeps us from CRYING.

 

[Brooknwdw]

Points taken Robo....however if you died shortly after experiencing a ride that has these warning signs, from an undiagnosed serious illness (that lets say expediated your death)...I think your family might wish you would have went to a doctor often enough to know you had it.

My post said "SOME PEOPLE" several times, not EVERYONE....

And no I personally would not have a physical before riding these rides. I am a healthy 32 YO woman with no health problems at all. But I do go to the Dr about once a year for a physical in general as everyone should, which is why I know I am healthy.

But I do think it is a good suggestion for SOME people. If you read my first post in this thread, you can see that I have a son with a heart condition. He doesn't ride the ride. Maybe I am a little sensitive on the subject because it hits closer to home for me obviously than some on this thread who DO see it as a laughing matter.

 

[WINTER]

I'm sorry but if you have to get a physical before going to Disney. . . well, there is just something wrong with that. Normal thinking would be, when in doubt, don't ride. It's not the end of the world if you don't ride "Mission: Space". You will still have a great time at WDW!

 

[Brooknwdw]

I'm sorry but if you have to get a physical before going to Disney. . . well, there is just something wrong with that. Normal thinking would be, when in doubt, don't ride. It's not the end of the world if you don't ride "Mission: Space". You will still have a great time at WDW!

I totally agree, if you are unsure of your health condition, don't ride the rides with the BIG BOLD warning signs. If you do, & something happens, don't blame Disney but take responsibilty for yourself either way.

 

[disneyfreakjackie]

yes, thats right....this is really getting blown out of proportion----I mean there are thousands upon thousands of people that have rode this with no problems..........Pre-Existing medical conditions can be triggered by MANY different things, not just MS.

I totally agree!! I am so tired of hearing that "another person died because they rode Mission Space"! Don't think I'm heartless, I feel for the families, but the media is getting so out of control with this!

 

[bicker]

Also keep in mind that some conditions aren't detectable, except with destructive testing (i.e., autopsy).

Sometimes bad things just plain happen.

 

[Kitty-chan]

Also keep in mind that some conditions aren't detectable, except with destructive testing (i.e., autopsy).

Sometimes bad things just plain happen.

This is very sad, and very true.

We can take appropriate, responsible actions, get regular physicals, follow doctors' instructions, etc. That does increase our odds of good health. But nothing's a guarantee.

 

[mrzrich]

Physicals -
for ADULTS should include an EKG, blood pressure test - and possibly a stress test if you have abnormal blood pressure, and general blood tests (Chloresterol, blood sugar level, acidic levels)
Adults should get a full physical every year, and Dental & Eye checkups (for females over 40 get a Mamogram and PAP test)

for CHILDREN - listening to the heart - if not a normal sound then EKG, blood test for chlorestrol level, muscle tone, spinal problems, height/weight ratio, and what ever else your Pediatrician recommends.
Children should have a full physical every year - plus Dental & Eye checkups.

I am an RN in a Cardiac ICU- the test mentioned above, while important, still do not definitively give you a clean bill of health. I have seen patients who passed these tests with flying colors, die. Some people are ticking time bombs with undetected defects....its very unfortunate, and tragic when it happens, but many things can set them off, and there's no way of knowing when or how.

 

[TSR6]

Mission: Space currently generates brief periods of up to 2G during the ride. It is capable of going higher, but they tried about 3G during initial testing and decided to slow it down a little.

NASA and the US military have centrifuge trainers that can generate much higher centifugal force. Fighter pilots routinely endure up to 9G during training, and astronauts usually go into the 5-7G range.

A healthy person will usually start to pass out around 7-9G. Wiuth training and physical conditioning, pilots are able to withstand more.

The paltry 2G that Mission: Space puts on you is completely harmless, unless you have a serious health problem.

Thanks! I knew it wasn't going to be anywhere near - I wanted to point out the difference, and let someone else fill in the facts!

 

[kaytieeldr]

Well, SURE... except that... are YOU going to do it?

Will the original POSTER do it?

Will ANYBODY do it?

Its kind of amusing to suggest that "everyone" make an appointment to get an examination and ask the doctor (out-of-the-blue), "Please check me to see if I might have a rare unexpected, unnoticed, health imperfection before I go to Disney World."

Well, it depends - how far in advance is acceptable? I'm having a physical in June or July and visiting WDW at the end of September. Is that okay? Or do I need to move the appointment closer to my trip? Don't think I can - I had to schedule this appointment six months in advance. And I can't move my trip... guess I'll just have to take personal responsibility

 

[Robo]

Well, it depends - how far in advance is acceptable? I'm having a physical in June or July and visiting WDW at the end of September. Is that okay?

Nope!

Gotta be RIGHT before boarding M:S.

Better take your Doc and staff with you.

 

[brivers222]

Yeah its pretty much common sense... Going to any amusment park without a physical is putting your life in jeopordy. So far from what I have seen and read from the deaths with MS they have all come from people with pre-exsisting condition (whether it be unknown or known they already existed) the people could of died driving in their car or walking down the street given the right stresser presented.

For instance, for the Detroit Red Wings.... Jiri Fischer collapsed on the bench during a game (pretty much died and was brough back by our EXCELLENT medical staff). He can't play hockey anymore and the bad thing about it... The Doctors said Hockey had nothing to do with it... He has just as much chance of dieing sitting on the couch as he did playing hockey....

So I guess yeah common sense would dictate getting a Physical before doing anything stenuous is the smart way to go... Its just a shame that MS is being falted when it is only pointing out that the people ridding it weren't really up on the health of their won body... The ride is not failing in any way... so far it has been the people riding it failing to fully understand their own health.

The deaths are by far tragic and I am taking nothing away from that... But blaming Mission space is about as bad as Blaming Chrysler because so and so died of a heart attack while driving the car.

 

[Poohbear123]

I have High Blood Pressure and I KNOW NOT to ride Mission: SPACE!!! NO NO NO NO NO!

 

[Brooknwdw]

I think very few people are blaming Disney. It is NOT Disney's fault. I feel really bad for the people who ride it unknowingly when if they went to the Doctor every once in a while (and NO not RIGHT before a Disney trip ) they may know that they have something, even HBP that should make them reconsider riding this ride.

To some the whole thing is a big Hoop De Doo while others seem to take it TOO seriously ...there IS a thing called balance.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Nope!

Gotta be RIGHT before boarding M:S.

Better take your Doc and staff with you.

Yeah, okay - I'm 100% positive at least one of the Physician Assistants will come... but she's got a husband and two kids. I'm gonna need TWO rooms... Sheesh, it's cheaper to just not ride M:S Yeah, right - as if that's gonna happen. Nope, I'm riding every attraction at Walt Disney World that I want to ride, and as an intelligent adult, I'm going to accept responsibility for my decisions no matter what the outcome. Except speeding. That's never my fault. I'm always just trying to keep up with traffic

 

[DznyLvr2005]

Bring back HORIZONS!

 

[DznyLvr2005]

" Mission: Space" a centrifuge - get a physical before riding "

...and while your at it, would you please wash your hands before leaving the bathroom!

They should build a little triage area pre-ride just so everyone can get a physical before entering Dr. Mickey!

 

[jann1033]

t?

Its kind of amusing to suggest that "everyone" make an appointment to get an examination and ask the doctor (out-of-the-blue), "Please check me to see if I might have a rare unexpected, unnoticed, health imperfection before I go to Disney World."

just for the sake of argument, what would you say the statistics are of the above Dr telling you to "get thee to a psychiatrist" when asked the above question...75% or greater?

( there really needs to be a smirk smilie)

 

[jann1033]

but the media is getting so out of control with this!

who needs the media when we have the Dis to do the job for them?