ehagerty
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Plan for 2004 Vacation - Cast
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Cast (aliases provided by Cousin Ed at Ohana)
Cousin Mom (ME49) - mere months from the mid-century mark, currently a project manager in a bank, karate black belt
Cousin Dad (DH47) 47, karate school owner and master instructor
Cousin Young Man (DS16) 16, serious, studious, scout leader, Sea Cadet, just finishing sophomore year at Canisius High School
Cousin Dragonball Z (DS14) 14, his own man, loves the wind in his face (biking, skiing, etc.), black belt, heading to Cansius in the Fall
Will the real Aladdin please smile??
Cousin Pikachu (DSF13) Seans best bud, fellow black belt, first time to WDW (once or twice to DL)
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Joining us along the way for short stays, locals:
Kate (44), friend of 30 years, lives near Cape Kennedy, works at Sea World
Her son, Sean (16)
Her daughter, Siobhan (12, going on 30)
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Thoughts on inclusion:
We so enjoy ourselves on our Disney vacations, that we have tried to share that enthusiasm with other friends and family. This has taken different forms, everything from friends joining us for a day at our resort or a park, to family members sharing our room for a portion of the trip. We have learned A LOT about how to do this successfully (with minimal pain and conflict), and continuously learn more, since each new person presents his/her own hidden expectations or personality peccadilloes. The key is PLANNING and EXPECTATION ALIGNMENT. This will not uncover every possibility, but it will lay the groundwork for addressing the unanticipated as efficiently as possible. I could write a book on this (especially since it has several parallels with standard project practices .), but it would only be interesting to those who are thinking about doing this or have already suffered through it! I can say this there are very few people who are truly willing to just go along for the ride and enjoy whatever you plan or participate in the planning so that you can insure that their expectations can be met.
Some shared trip highlights in the past:
Watching my brother (multiple sclerosis) enjoy WHATEVER we do, including almost all the rides, and especially, the pools.
Having my sister along; she, like me, likes it all; has something positive to say about everything; tries new stuff (cirque when it opened) and shares well; is grateful for whatever you do for her.
Videos / Pictures of everything. The occasional stresses and conflicts are forgotten and the memories are great.
Some shared trip lowlights in the past:
Giving (in-law) family members DVC points (with the free park passes associated, prior to 2000) and having to listen to how expensive everything is, how loud the buses are, etc. The irony is, they enjoyed themselves and have asked to return with us. YIKES! It is all relative (literally!).
Standing in the OKW parking lot with DH and promising each other that we will apply electric shocks to the spouse who EVER suggests bringing ANYONE along on a future vacation. Of course, we always forget in the building momentum of planning the next trip ..
Some advice:
Ive learned to preface any invitation with This is OUR vacation and we are willing to SHARE it with you, but there are conditions . Or I am NOT a paid tour guide, but I am willing SHARE our expertise with you, IF .
Have pre-arranged signals and agreements for how to know when to spend time apart. Plan apart time into the itinerary
Require that the guest participate in planning, or agree to go along for the ride completely.
Strongly suggest that guests get in training for the levels of walking that you anticipate. I had a 14 year old boy with us one year and every time I turned around, he was lying on the nearest bench. Even though I warned him the average WDW guest walks 15 miles a day, he still wasnt up for it, especially in the August heat / humidity.
Know your own limitations. For example, I cannot stand whining. I make it clear up front that whining will have to be taken out of earshot .
There WILL be lowlights, have a high level plan to process them.
Coming next - THE PLAN for 2004......
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Cast (aliases provided by Cousin Ed at Ohana)
Cousin Mom (ME49) - mere months from the mid-century mark, currently a project manager in a bank, karate black belt
Cousin Dad (DH47) 47, karate school owner and master instructor
Cousin Young Man (DS16) 16, serious, studious, scout leader, Sea Cadet, just finishing sophomore year at Canisius High School
Cousin Dragonball Z (DS14) 14, his own man, loves the wind in his face (biking, skiing, etc.), black belt, heading to Cansius in the Fall

Will the real Aladdin please smile??
Cousin Pikachu (DSF13) Seans best bud, fellow black belt, first time to WDW (once or twice to DL)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Joining us along the way for short stays, locals:
Kate (44), friend of 30 years, lives near Cape Kennedy, works at Sea World
Her son, Sean (16)
Her daughter, Siobhan (12, going on 30)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Thoughts on inclusion:
We so enjoy ourselves on our Disney vacations, that we have tried to share that enthusiasm with other friends and family. This has taken different forms, everything from friends joining us for a day at our resort or a park, to family members sharing our room for a portion of the trip. We have learned A LOT about how to do this successfully (with minimal pain and conflict), and continuously learn more, since each new person presents his/her own hidden expectations or personality peccadilloes. The key is PLANNING and EXPECTATION ALIGNMENT. This will not uncover every possibility, but it will lay the groundwork for addressing the unanticipated as efficiently as possible. I could write a book on this (especially since it has several parallels with standard project practices .), but it would only be interesting to those who are thinking about doing this or have already suffered through it! I can say this there are very few people who are truly willing to just go along for the ride and enjoy whatever you plan or participate in the planning so that you can insure that their expectations can be met.
Some shared trip highlights in the past:
Watching my brother (multiple sclerosis) enjoy WHATEVER we do, including almost all the rides, and especially, the pools.
Having my sister along; she, like me, likes it all; has something positive to say about everything; tries new stuff (cirque when it opened) and shares well; is grateful for whatever you do for her.
Videos / Pictures of everything. The occasional stresses and conflicts are forgotten and the memories are great.
Some shared trip lowlights in the past:
Giving (in-law) family members DVC points (with the free park passes associated, prior to 2000) and having to listen to how expensive everything is, how loud the buses are, etc. The irony is, they enjoyed themselves and have asked to return with us. YIKES! It is all relative (literally!).
Standing in the OKW parking lot with DH and promising each other that we will apply electric shocks to the spouse who EVER suggests bringing ANYONE along on a future vacation. Of course, we always forget in the building momentum of planning the next trip ..
Some advice:
Ive learned to preface any invitation with This is OUR vacation and we are willing to SHARE it with you, but there are conditions . Or I am NOT a paid tour guide, but I am willing SHARE our expertise with you, IF .
Have pre-arranged signals and agreements for how to know when to spend time apart. Plan apart time into the itinerary
Require that the guest participate in planning, or agree to go along for the ride completely.
Strongly suggest that guests get in training for the levels of walking that you anticipate. I had a 14 year old boy with us one year and every time I turned around, he was lying on the nearest bench. Even though I warned him the average WDW guest walks 15 miles a day, he still wasnt up for it, especially in the August heat / humidity.
Know your own limitations. For example, I cannot stand whining. I make it clear up front that whining will have to be taken out of earshot .
There WILL be lowlights, have a high level plan to process them.
Coming next - THE PLAN for 2004......