Mexico is "Enraged" with the proposed U.S wall.

[Chuck S]

Mechanization has a price. While it may be less expensive than human labor, many of the crops have to be "bred" to be less delicate for the picking machines. Bio-engineering the food crops often makes them less flavorful, a tougher texture. It may be a necessary evil in the long run, though.

 

[Nancy]

I think it's a GREAT idea!! I cannot think of a better way to keep the illegal immigrants out of this country. I think the expense of the wall would pay for itself within weeks!

Please don't flame me, but the illegal immigration issue is truly at a climax!! When the majority of my son's school is spanish speaking (79%), I cannot go anywhere without seeing signs in both spanish and english (spanish sometimes 1st!!) and no one speaking english, it drives me insane!!!

Why should I have to learn how to speak spanish??? I should not! LEGAL immigrants should be forced to speak english, just MHO.

The lawmakers in our state are actually trying to propose a bill to offer medicaid and federal aid to illegal immigrant WTH??????

Do you think we can help AMERICAN citizens first before illegals??

Just had to vent, it makes me want to scream!! Flame away

No flames from me, I agree 100%! Build the wall, build 10 walls...Mexico has no say in what we do in OUR country! I have never been to mexico, I have no desire to go legal or otherwise. He could build all the walls he wanyed, I wouldn't care. We could also build a wall with the Canadian border (of which I am very close to) and as long as I could cross the border legally it wouldn't faze me at all. Just using that as an example.

 

[momof2inPA]

Mechanization has a price. While it may be less expensive than human labor, many of the crops have to be "bred" to be less delicate for the picking machines. Bio-engineering the food crops often makes them less flavorful, a tougher texture. It may be a necessary evil in the long run, though.

I wasn't advocating mechanisation, but if it's happening anyway, there is just less need for the migrant workers. So, why are we letting more stream across our borders? And don't tell me it's because Americans are too lazy to work at coffee houses or in restaurants. That just isn't true.

 

[Honu]

I wasn't advocating mechanisation, but if it's happening anyway, there is just less need for the migrant workers. So, why are we letting more stream across our borders? And don't tell me it's because Americans are too lazy to work at coffee houses or in restaurants. That just isn't true.

Maybe there are people to fill those jobs where you live, but it's just not the case in California. We do have unemployment here, but the majority of the people collecting belong to a workforce that isn't willing to do manual or menial labor. The majority of undocumented workers here are undocumented because they are not educated enough to work their way through our ridiculously convoluted system.

 

[disneymom3]

The article quoted by RobinMarie is just astounding to me. This in particular just blows me away, the bolded part is my emphasis

He said many Mexicans felt betrayed by the anti-immigrant sentiment.

"We learned to believe in the United States. We have a binational life," he said of Zacatecas, a state that has been sending migrants north for more than a century. "It isn't just a feeling of rejection. It's against what we see as part of our life, our culture, our territory."


Hellloooooo? I do not think so! The US is NOT their territory. We are a completely separate country. You live here, you have to come legally and then you have to pay taxes. THAT and only that gives you a right to say what is done in the USA. Especially that legal part! I have a dear friend who immigrated here from Kenya. He waited several years AFTER his application was approved to be able to actually come--as I recall, it was three years. His brother just got approved in August and they are hoping we will be allowed to come within the next year and a half. People do this legally all the time. And that is what makes America great, not people illegally entering our country and taking advantage of the benefits there are here.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Do you think you could LIVE on $5 an hour? Especially when it is only seasonal work? And no health insurance or retirement benefits?

First off--we have many of our own "legal citizens" who must do this.

Second off--I should be able to enter your home at any time right...it isn't my home--but you might have things in it that can improve my life. So please remove your property fence and your locks. I be over first thing in the morning.

 

[Chuck S]

First off--we have many of our own "legal citizens" who must do this.

Second off--I should be able to enter your home at any time right...it isn't my home--but you might have things in it that can improve my life. So please remove your property fence and your locks. I be over first thing in the morning.

Well, first off, the Americans working for $5 an hour also have food stamps and medicaid. You must legally be in this country to apply for those, you know. They have to be able to verify income. If they are American seasonal workers, they also get unemployment benefits when they are out of work.

Second off, a private residence is much difference than a 1500 mile land border that has historically been crossed by field laborers, especially between two countries that purport to be friendly nations. A seasonal work force that farmers have come to rely upon is different than a burglar, isn't it?

So much for the Bush Administrations Compassionate Conservatism, huh?

 

[DarkSideMoon]

Compassionate to us who have to foot the bill for their FREE healthcare.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Second off, a private residence is much difference than a 1500 mile land border that has historically been crossed by field laborers, especially between two countries that purport to be friendly nations. A seasonal work force that farmers have come to rely upon is different than a burglar, isn't it?

So much for the Bush Administrations Compassionate Conservatism, huh?

umm--private country, no???

Historically the law has been broken--so we should turn a blind eye?

Umm--no I don't think so!

The resources are being mooched--and mooched big time!

Not doing a job b/c it is "beneath you" (as how I read someone's description of those who collect unemployment rather than do undesirable work)--just isn't a good enough reason to justify breaking the law.

And no--I'm not a burglar---but if going into your home and utilizing your resources helps make my life better--how exactly is that different??? It is illegal and so is crossing the border. It may make their life better--but too bad...it is illegal. You want to make your life better--you go through the proper channels.

 

[chobie]

Compassionate to us who have to foot the bill for their FREE healthcare.

And how have you personally been footing the bill?

 

[Lanshark]

Until we are serious about going after people who hire illegals as well as the illegals themselves I don't think a wall will stop the flow. It is however a good start.

 

[Chuck S]

Compassionate to us who have to foot the bill for their FREE healthcare.

Again, to qualify for medicaid, you MUST be documented so they can verify income. Other than that, the only free medical care illegal immigrants receive is emergency treatment. I would hope no one would be denied life saving treatment, would you?

 

[DarkSideMoon]

Again, to qualify for medicaid, you MUST be documented so they can verify income. Other than that, the only free medical care illegal immigrants receive is emergency treatment. I would hope no one would be denied life saving treatment, would you?

no, but they are not expected to pay it off. people come here just so they can get free medical care.

 

[DarkSideMoon]

And how have you personally been footing the bill?

taxes.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Again, to qualify for medicaid, you MUST be documented so they can verify income. Other than that, the only free medical care illegal immigrants receive is emergency treatment. I would hope no one would be denied life saving treatment, would you?

No one is to be denied medical treatment in an ER if it is necessary to save their lives.

However--nonpaying patients is one of the many reasons for the high cost of health care.

 

[chobie]

taxes.

You pay taxes?

 

[Honu]

I deal with undocumented workers every day. It's impossible not to here. The ones I've met aren't a criminal faction. In fact, they are very religious and very strict with their children. They are hard working people that were dealt a very unfortunate hand and are trying their best to provide for their families. They have the choice of breaking the law or starving. WWYD?

Yes, there are some that cause problems. Yes, there are some that milk the system. So let's change the system. What would be so horrible about instituting a special (easy to obtain) work visa for them? They are not taking jobs that others want. We could tax them, track them and even revoke the visa and deport them, if warranted. I just don't understand the anger/fear here.

 

[Chuck S]

umm--private country, no???

Historically the law has been broken--so we should turn a blind eye?

Umm--no I don't think so!

The resources are being mooched--and mooched big time!

Not doing a job b/c it is "beneath you" (as how I read someone's description of those who collect unemployment rather than do undesirable work)--just isn't a good enough reason to justify breaking the law.

And no--I'm not a burglar---but if going into your home and utilizing your resources helps make my life better--how exactly is that different??? It is illegal and so is crossing the border. It may make their life better--but too bad...it is illegal. You want to make your life better--you go through the proper channels.

Please detail the resources that are being "mooched". Food stamps, medicaid, welfare, none of it is available without verifiable income, which would require you to be here legally. What "resources" are they "utilizing" simply by being here? Someone has to feed and house them, and without them being here legally someone other then the taxpayers is paying for it. Someone is supporting them, or they are surviving on what they earn here. If they are earning money via some sort of laborer job, they are not mooching.

 

[chobie]

Please detail the resources that are being "mooched". Food stamps, medicaid, welfare, none of it is available without verifiable income, which would require you to be here legally. What "resources" are they "utilizing" simply by being here? Someone has to feed and house them, and without them being here legally someone other then the taxpayers is paying for it. Someone is supporting them, or they are surviving on what they earn here. If they are earning money via some sort of laborer job, they are not mooching.

Well, when they show up on the steps of a hospital, half-dead, our bleeding heart doctors take care of them. Awful, isn't it?

 

[shortbun]

That attitude makes me want to bring some bricks and start stacking!
Any opinions?

You still looking for work?