Men are such fools.

[jemgumby]

I never said anything about half of marriages or 3 out of 4, or anything of the kind. I don't know what the marriage/divorce statistics are, so I wouldn't post it. Even if I did know or look up the correct numbers, I don't know the reason why most divorces occur, and unlike you seem to be doing on this thread, I wouldn't make up a reason and try to use it to bolster my arguments.

The young lady in the OP is 28--far past the point of becoming a pregnant teen. When my children become adults, I expect them to have experiences (physical and otherwise) that help choose a life mate that they will be happy with and achieve true intimacy with.

I was responding to another poster when I was speaking of teen pregnancy because she wanted her son to not just have one sexual partner. It was slamminjanice I believe. Anywho, I'm done. Talk amongst yourselves......

 

[Jennasis]

Sorry have no idea what your talking about and think we may on completely different "pages" so to speak. You basically said that you think people should not have just one sexual partner. I said with thinking like that it leads to unwanted pregnancies, sexually transmitted diseases, etc. Also you basically felt it was fine for relationships to be built on just a sexual attraction and I strongly disagree with that. With that attitude no wonder half of all marriages end in divorce. Sex, looks, money, etc. don't make a marriage last. They are just superficial things..

Anyway, this topic is boring now. I've said all I am gong to say. You can only beat a dead horse for so long. Moving on to other things. Have a nice evening everybody!

G'night.

 

[JerseyJanice]

You sound just like my mom. I'm proud to say that I made responsible, educated decisions and am now preparing for medical school. She must have done something right!

(Done tooting my own horn now )

Best of luck to you in medical school, Shannon.

I think "saving yourself for marriage" is a quaint idea that may have worked for some pre-women's lib. In the society that we live in, it's just not practical.

 

[Plannin'Shannon]

Have you watched Teen Mom on MTV? There is a couple on their (can't think of their names) that gave their baby up for adoption. After all they went through being a pregnant teenage couple and giving up a baby for adoption do you know they had unprotected sex after the baby was born? Now you know they are educated on what makes a baby since they already made one!!! It showed her at her followup OBGN check and the doc specifically asked her if she had sex and she said NO. Her boyfriend later called her out and said why did you lie and she said it was because she was afraid she wouldn't get the birth control. I am not a prude and believe sex education is very important. MY DD is 9 and I've talked about sex with her. It's just not education cause if that was the case then this teenage couple who already gave up one kid wouldn't be having unprotected sex would they? It is about self respect and making good choices. I had a young girl about 19 just confide in me that she had sex and I could tell she really regreted it. I wasn't going to set there and add salt in the wound so I said well all you can do now is move forward and not make the same mistakes again. To really avoid unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted disease abstitence is really the only way. That is the truth and a fact!

You really...missed...the entire point of my post. Took it in a totally different direction.

Regardless, I'm sure there's no point in discussing this much further. I've asked the same question twice and have gotten no reply, so I think I'll step aside now.

 

[Boxley]

Jemgumby,I think your basis of argument shows that you are bringing in aspects that have no point in this debate. The woman in question is 28 and yet you are constantly bringing up teenage pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. If the young woman got pregnant with this man (let me give a brief moment for you to go through your adolescent screeching bit) she would not be a case of teenage pregnancy. As far as sexually transmitted diseases go, a spouse can receive one from their significant others. It's not like the infection/disease doesn't care if you are married. You can throw yourself a ticker tape parade because you were a virgin when you married but then again, it doesn't keep you safe from the statistics of divorce. You may think that just because you waited to have sex that you are protected from divorce, it doesn't work that way.

By the way, have you seen the 55year old guy naked? (once again I will pause until you stop screeching eww) maybe he still works out, maybe he physically looks better then oh...the 35year olds you know.

 

[Plannin'Shannon]

Best of luck to you in medical school, Shannon.

Thank you very much.

 

[jemgumby]

Best of luck to you in medical school, Shannon.

I think "saving yourself for marriage" is a quaint idea that may have worked for some pre-women's lib. In the society that we live in, it's just not practical.

I am all for women's lib. Let's not confuse saving oneself for marriage as equating with believing women are subsurveant. I believe not just women but men should save themselves for their spouse. About the teen pregnancy I was replying to shannon (sorry shannon called you janice) because you said you wanted your son to have different sexual experiences. Anyways, this time I am really done. G'night everybody!

 

[FireDancer]

Well, I went back and read the whole thread and wow, I can tell who is and isn't jaded in life.

Oh and if the majority of you think I am so off base by being disgusted by older men lusting after younger women/girls then why do you think child prostitution is able to flourish? Especially in other countries little girls are sold into prostitution and they are kept in business by much older men. DISGUSTING!!!! As one older male comedian said "Of course I want to have sex with young girls that is why there are laws against it!"

Child prostitution has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. No one has said it was ok to sleep with minors but if one adult wants to do so with a much younger but consenting other adult than go for it.

Have you been burned before? Your opinion is very shallow.

Everyone deserves someone who is attractive. A person who has gained 50 pounds and lets themselves go MAY not be attractive to their spouse any longer. A person who has no life except the family MAY not be interesting to their spouse any more.

I think people are free to be with anyone they want. And you know what? Good for them.

. So often people completely let themselves go either physically, emotionally, or mentally and they wonder why their spouse isn't attracted to them anymore. People also stop trying after they have been in a relationship too long and it just gets boring. People need to keep excitement in their lives.

So there you go you admitted the truth that older men do lust after younger woman, which is my point.

I think you are confusing lust and love. Of course the hot chick with the great body is someone I would lust after but the relationship would be very short lived, perhaps limited to a couple of hours, if they had no substance beyond that. That is why I think that love at first site is a myth, you can't love someone you don't know anything about. Lust after them, yes. Love them, no.

I don't think any relationship will last long term if both parties aren't physically attracted to each other. I also don't think a relationship will last long term if both parties are only physically attracted to each other. Sometimes all you want is an evening of fun, sometimes you are looking for a relationship. There is plenty of room for the former while you are looking for the latter

 

[LuvOrlando]

Best of luck to you in medical school, Shannon.

I think "saving yourself for marriage" is a quaint idea that may have worked for some pre-women's lib. In the society that we live in, it's just not practical.

What kind of thing is that to say?

Women's lib is about being free to make choices on our own. It's not about going from letting one group tell us what to do to letting another group tell us what to do. I bet my Grandmother, an old school suffragette is rolling over in her grave.

 

[John VN]

Yes, I am well acquainted with B&W bakery. They changed hands a few years ago, and it was looking a little shaky there for a while, but fortunately, the new owners got back on track and are now selling that wonderful crumb cake and their meltaway Danish rings.

Thanks for the update. 3 of the few things I really miss from when we lived back north in Paramus and Teaneck would be the warm, just out of the oven Crumb Cake from B&W and the warm Hard and Soft Rolls from Lodi Bakery.

Sorry to all about the divergence from the hot topic at hand.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

I'm guessing I don't need to explain why this one is closed