Membership Magic Beyond

[J-Dog]

Except the TIW card already set the precedent…while that was for AP holders as well, it certainly was a pay for play for a DVC entitlement.

My guess is we will have info this coming week for the specific discounts..
While the AP trade point values has not been officially written, MS is telling owners those amounts…I was just told it this week, so my guess is that will hold true.

No news on the discounted ticket price though…which is why I think the points number of 80/95 are correct.

Okay, that's true. I guess I never thought of TIW as a DVC entitlement because it wasn't just for DVC. And TIW didn't include *part 2* of my problem with this - lounge access priority. TIW didn't let you bump people out of their ADR time so you could sit down.

 

[The Jackal]

Okay, that's true. I guess I never thought of TIW as a DVC entitlement because it wasn't just for DVC. And TIW didn't include *part 2* of my problem with this - lounge access priority. TIW didn't let you bump people out of their ADR time so you could sit

For all the times we went to the Epcot lounge we were put on a waitlist once. While the new MK lounge will be busier and a little smaller than the Epcot lounge. TIW in my opinion was more to get locals to spend money at Disney restaurants over local ones. WDW had a pass for FL residents to enter Epcot after 4 PM. DVC will with no doubt increase the price quickly. I hope the MK lounge is as nice as the Disney Springs lounge. Maybe some year they will bring back the gummy bears.

 

[CookieandOatmeal]

I wonder if there will be any block out dates for the 5 day tix? We are planning a trip for Christmas week and if the math works out, I might just spend the $99 and save my old 5 day PH tixs that are not date based for another trip. I think they are good until 2030. Plus my 5 year old really likes the lounges and we use it for him to relax/decompress from the busy park environment. I can see line jumping being worth it during the holiday season.

 

[tjkraz]

Sure, I agree, but as of now, we don't even know what they are offering right now.

We will in about 10 days.

Just, for me, this sets a precedent of paying more for DVC stuff that I don't like and makes me lose a little bit of faith in this thing that I love. Hopefully I'm just being melodramatic, but that will remain to be seen.

Again, what's the point in worrying about it? I mean, you're literally using two specific things--Galactic Starcruiser and Disney+ fees--as justification for getting worked up over the hypothetical cost of this program five years down the road.

 

[DVCsloth]

I don't see much reason for me to purchase this except for the member lounge. I would probably just put our names on the list and come back when they call. We didn't renew our Pirate passes when they expired and used the Florida resident $59 tickets this summer. If they offered some sort of Fast Pass plus where we could book 3 attractions 60 days out, I might be more interested. The main reason I still prefer the annual pass is the ability to park hop because it allows us more freedom especially for music or dining at Epcot. Still think any extras they offer to members is a good thing though.

 

[davidhr]

We will in about 10 days.


Again, what's the point in worrying about it? I mean, you're literally using two specific things--Galactic Starcruiser and Disney+ fees--as justification for getting worked up over the hypothetical cost of this program five years down the road.

We are like-minded. I could find a hundred things i believe could get worse in 10 years. But why worry about that?

Could MMB get worse and extremely expensive? Yes. But as today, I have zero indications about what’s going to happen in a year. Why make hypothetical scenarios in my head and worry about them today?

 

[eticketplease]

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but Disney Plus more than tripled in just a few years. IF that happens to MMB, then it could cost $1000 a year in less than a decade. That's just a liiiiittttttle faster than inflation.....

I was just joking that it would go up as fast as the rate Disney+ did in 5 years getting tripled as you mentioned it going up "A lot".

This will certainly increase as does everything in life.

Even with the cost rising will always be some perceived sense of value its just whether or not it is valuable to you and your family that will matter.
As this is optional and not required we can make the decision on a yearly basis whether or not it makes sense at that point in time.

 

[J-Dog]

We will in about 10 days.


Again, what's the point in worrying about it? I mean, you're literally using two specific things--Galactic Starcruiser and Disney+ fees--as justification for getting worked up over the hypothetical cost of this program five years down the road.

There's really no point in worrying about it, but I guess my personality is different than yours and I like to consider the future implications. Doesn't make either one of us right or wrong.

 

[Maleficent's Dad]

Except the TIW card already set the precedent…while that was for AP holders as well, it certainly was a pay for play for a DVC entitlement.

While I get what you're saying, comparing the two is a stretch IMO. Yes, we paid for TIW (originally not available to DVC Members unless you had an AP, though it did become a DVC perk), but you were essentially paying for a discount on food and drinks. That's a far cry from MMB seems to be charging for. To me, it's apples and oranges as *some* of the benefits that MMB seem to provide were previously not something that cost me anything. We get AP's so the ticket discount holds no value to us. I've never had to wait for the member lounge in Epcot, and we visit it regularly. I'm afraid that is going to change.

Okay, that's true. I guess I never thought of TIW as a DVC entitlement because it wasn't just for DVC. And TIW didn't include *part 2* of my problem with this - lounge access priority. TIW didn't let you bump people out of their ADR time so you could sit down.

THIS
I never felt TIW was a DVC entitlement either. It was quite a nice program that only frequent visitors could make good use of. It was definitely set up more for AP holders to get locals into the dining establishments. It grew exponentially in popularity, however. And so did the PRICE! WDW definitely doesn't need help filling restaurants any longer. But I digress.

We'll all have to wait and see the details of what Disney rolls out. I am, however, concerned about additional cost items that used to be included.

 

[eticketplease]

While I get what you're saying, comparing the two is a stretch IMO. Yes, we paid for TIW (originally not available to DVC Members unless you had an AP, though it did become a DVC perk), but you were essentially paying for a discount on food and drinks. That's a far cry from MMB seems to be charging for. To me, it's apples and oranges as *some* of the benefits that MMB seem to provide were previously not something that cost me anything. We get AP's so the ticket discount holds no value to us. I've never had to wait for the member lounge in Epcot, and we visit it regularly. I'm afraid that is going to change.

I don’t think it is too much of a stretch.

In the end both provided and will provide discounts after paying a fee.

Everyone’s situation is different and we constantly run out of points and are buying OTUP.

Is your AP the incredipass? If not you are blocked out during XMAS which these discounted weekday tickets may allow you to visit during that time.

I am happy for you that you have never had to wait at Epcot but I don’t think that will be the same in MK once that lounge opens so that might bring more of a benefit later on being able to secure the ILLLAPP (Individual Lightning Lane Lounge Access Premier Pass)

(Had to make that one up )

 

[SL6827]

If enough people purchase this, then you could still potentially have to wait for lounge access even though you are in MM? Right?

 

[Sandisw]

While I get what you're saying, comparing the two is a stretch IMO. Yes, we paid for TIW (originally not available to DVC Members unless you had an AP, though it did become a DVC perk), but you were essentially paying for a discount on food and drinks. That's a far cry from MMB seems to be charging for. To me, it's apples and oranges as *some* of the benefits that MMB seem to provide were previously not something that cost me anything. We get AP's so the ticket discount holds no value to us. I've never had to wait for the member lounge in Epcot, and we visit it regularly. I'm afraid that is going to change.

THIS
I never felt TIW was a DVC entitlement either. It was quite a nice program that only frequent visitors could make good use of. It was definitely set up more for AP holders to get locals into the dining establishments. It grew exponentially in popularity, however. And so did the PRICE! WDW definitely doesn't need help filling restaurants any longer. But I digress.

We'll all have to wait and see the details of what Disney rolls out. I am, however, concerned about additional cost items that used to be included.

It’s not a stretch when you are talking about whether they are charging a fee to unlock discounts.

And that is exactly what TIW did, right? Not trying to compare how people would value the two…but this concept is not different.

You are paying $99 to unlock a $200 savings on MM, a discounts on tickets and to get OTU points half price, not to mention the option to turn your points into the Sorcerer AP.

Obviously, discounts on food and drink might be more popular but the premise is the same… you pay an upfront free in exchange for something you now get discounted.

That was really my point. Disney has set a precedent in offering owners something with an upfront fee that turns into later savings.

 

[Sandisw]

Okay, that's true. I guess I never thought of TIW as a DVC entitlement because it wasn't just for DVC. And TIW didn't include *part 2* of my problem with this - lounge access priority. TIW didn't let you bump people out of their ADR time so you could sit down.

Again, I am not saying that all the aspects of this program are the same…but paying for something up front to unlock discounts is not new and while the TIW was available to others, it was a DVC perk as well since those without an AP could buy it simply because they were DVC.

Just like the Sorcerer Pass…it’s DVC and FL resident…and we consider that a DVC entitlement right?

 

[SL6827]

I personally think the higher prices with direct contracts should more than cover the fee for this. But that's just me. And everyone knows that's beyond unrealistic with Disney.

 

[Sandisw]

If enough people purchase this, then you could still potentially have to wait for lounge access even though you are in MM? Right?

Yes, and I really don’t see that people are going to buy this simply for priority waitlist for the lounges.

I don’t see that being a driving factor for owners.

The piece that sometimes is missing is that the $99 does buy you memory maker which guests pay around $200 for if they do not have an AP.

So, you are actually getting a real product that is for sale…it’s not like the $99 only unlocks discounts and lounge priority waitlist with nothing else.

 

[nalababybear]

Iirc, didn't blue cards have ability to buy ap at a significant discount? Now it's pay $99 to have privilege of using points to buy a full priced ap.

Times have changed.

Will dvc members eat it up? Yeah. We will.

Being out here in dlr, still waiting for table scraps whatever they are

 

[eticketplease]

Iirc, didn't blue cards have ability to buy ap at a significant discount? Now it's pay $99 to have privilege of using points to buy a full priced ap.

That’s incorrect. If you purchased this add-on, you have the option as well to buy the discounted AP with points.

It is the same AP the sorcerer pass so you can pay with cash or with points.

 

[lowlight]

Again, what's the point in worrying about it?

If you know Disney, you know what’s coming, no need for hypotheticals.

 

[Tatebeck]

That’s incorrect. If you purchased this add-on, you have the option as well to buy the discounted AP with points.

It is the same AP the sorcerer pass so you can pay with cash or with points.

I believe in the past there was a discount offered on APs for DVC blue card members (which they may have been referring to since they were using the past tense and referred to how times change) but it is correct that now we only have access to the Sorcerer's pass (a cheaper pass that is otherwise available only to Florida residents) at full price.

 

[eticketplease]

I believe in the past there was a discount offered on APs for DVC blue card members (which they may have been referring to since they were using the past tense?) but now they only have access to the Sorcerer's pass (a cheaper pass that is otherwise available only to Florida residents) at full price

Yes thanks that is true. I still feel that the sorcers pass is a discount since it is only offered to FL Residents.