Med Cruisers...Let's Discuss Planning!(Updated Tour Info, Links & BCN Info on Page 1)

A large number of vendors located in the city squares waive the VAT if you are non EU on the spot. You can also haggle with the price. My SIL bought a beautiful leather coat in Florence without VAT and at a much lower cost than advertised. Use Euro cash not credit cards. The price of wine is inexpensive though and does help you "swallow" the high VAT tax. Also take note that in food establishments a lot of the time the "tip" is usually included on the bill. Check to see if it is listed so you don't tip twice. They LOVE Americans when that aspect of European life is overlooked.:cool1:

Just like street vendors anywhere. if you pay them in cash it just goes in their pockets and they don't report it. (Or they are paying the taxes but telling you it's "waived" to make you think you got a better deal and relieve them of the hassle of doing the paperwork) At those stalls etc the "advertised" price is the "we need a high price to give you a discount" so bargain hard!

Legally they can't "waive" it.
 
Each country laws down (within certain parameters) what the rate of VAT is and what it applies to. My guess is that we are being subject to Spanish VAT as that is the home port. However, at 20% that is the same as the UK. I guess I'll be coming home with less DCL goodies than usual, especially as hoping to get to Florida in NOvember

Celestine
 
We are on the last sea day of the inaugural Mediterranean cruise to Greece, so I thought I would share some general observations about the cruise and about the excursions we did, either through DCL or on our own. I have been posting some updates from the cruise on our blog in my sig line, but wanted to gear this specifically towards the kind of info I always look for from DISers who sail before us. This is the first time we have been on an inaugural cruise.

Barcelona: what a beautiful, unique city. Definitely worth flying in early or staying a day or two late (or both) to see this place. You don't want to miss the embarkation city as a port stop. There are two HOHO buses. We used Bus Turistic, prepurchased our tix online for a two-day pass so we didn't have to cram it all into one day. We also prepurchased tix to La Sagrada Familia church and after seeing the line around the building, we were glad we did. You get an hour window to enter, much like a Disney Fast Pass. While we didn't do the towers, others we talked to did and said it was fabulous. We took the metro to see the Magic Fountain, very easy to use. If you plan to use the Metro to get around, look into the T10 cards to save some money. Embarkation was easy enough from the terminal. You still get to board thru deck 3 into the atrium.

Villefranche: I don't know if it was because it was a Sunday, but the tendering process took forever. Our excursion meet time was before 8:00 and we didn't board our tour bus until 10:00. The port area is a bit jammed for buses, so that delays getting started as well. I don't know if any non-DCL excursion people got to tender to the shore early or not, so that might make a difference in any independent plans. As I said, I don't know if it was just because it was a Sunday or what was up. Our excursion was Monaco, Monte Carlo, and Eze. Our later departure made it so we were a little rushed in Monaco to be able to see the palace and also the changing of the guard, but it was a nice day. There was time for independent shopping and photos in each of the three stops. Monte Carlo was pretty much closed because it was Sunday, so not much opportunity to do anything there but hang around. We did get seriously expensive gelato (and have since had better and less costly scoops in other places). Eze was fabulous but I wish we had gone there first as we were tired by the end of the day. Here's a note, though... The tourism office in Eze has free wifi and is right by the parking area and the post office.

La Spezia: we did this port on our own taking the train to Cinque Terre, starting with Monterosso and working our way back to the ship. Tendering was super efficient, we were on the tender by 8:45 and walked to the train station in about 20 minutes which had us in line to buy our CT cards by 9:30. There was a bit of a line but still plenty of time to purchase the ticket, validate it, and get to the right platform for the 9:56 am train. This train is an express and was shoulder to shoulder packed, but the rest of the trip there was adequate seating. Civitavecchia: we used Rome in Limo to pick us up at the ship, so we literally walked off the ship and met our driver. On the way to the city, we passed several DCL buses. And while in the city, we saw a few of the groups, but after having had a bit too much free time on our Villefranche excursion, we were glad we had planned our own day so when we were ready to go from one place to the next, we could. We would use RIL again.

Piraeus: we did the DCL excursion to the Acropolis and Archaeological Museum with lunch in Plaka and some free time for shopping. The museum doesn't take a lot of time, but it was good to see it with a guide. It is set up so you can wander off a bit and still hear what the guide is saying in your whisper set but be able to get some pictures without a bajillion other people in them. The Acropolis is amazing, and we had about 45 minutes time to see and take pictures and make our own way down after a guided your to the top. It was seriously windy and dusty at the top, so hang onto your hats, and sunglasses help to protect your eyes from the sun and the dust.

Kusadasi: we did the DCL excursion to Ephesus, Miletus, and Didyma. It made for a long day but we got to see a lot of that part of Turkey. Our meeting time was 7:45, but they had the first group out the door by 7:40 from our meeting place. I know why they were eager to get going... We were the first group at Ephesus and the crowds behind us swelled throughout the morning. It was hot and dusty on this excursion, too. Our guide was very good and informative, kept the group moving but not too fast. Again, you could step ahead for photos and still hear on the whisper set. Miletus has the theater there and that's about it, and we had lunch in Didyma followed by a visit to the Temple of Apollo. There was a little time for souvenir shopping along the way. When we returned to Kusadasi, they dropped us off just outside the port shopping area so we could see a carpet making demonstration. We opted to skip that and return to the ship as that wasn't included in the tour description that I can recall.

Mykonos: we did this port on our own. There was a complimentary shuttle provided to take you to the town center where you could walk the streets of the old town or along the harbor. You can walk up to where fur of their windmills are. And make sure to look for their pelican. This was a lovely day and there is good shopping there, plus loads of cares, restaurants, etc. We bought postage stamps from a shopkeeper and mailed our postcards from the yellow post boxes along the waterfront.

Valletta, Malta: we booked a private driver and guide through DCL for the morning. They organize this very efficiently, taking us off the ship to meet our ride that was waiting for us. We didn't have a plan for the day except to see as much of the area as we could in the four hours time we had, and not do a lot of walking. So our guide suggested a panoramic drive which was perfect. We saw DCL groups at a few of our stops and were again happy to be making our own decisions about how much or little time we had for pictures and shopping. I am glad DCL makes this available, and there were quite a few groups who took them up on this offer. After returning to port, we walked about 15 minute to where the Barracca Lift is to get to the city of Valletta. It costs 1€ to ride and is worth it to not have to take the stairs. The upper gardens are beautiful and are also another free wifi spot. There is shopping and restaurants aplenty in the area, and if you get a chance, try a pastizzi.

DCL had two new menus that we were aware of: Bella Italia and Greek Isles, both of which we enjoyed. The entertainment on board has been ok with the biggest hit of the non Disney shows being Alfred and Seymour comedy that came onboard in Malta. Of course the Disney productions have been excellent as expected. I hope this is helpful to anyone going this season or planning for next.
 
We are on the last sea day of the inaugural Mediterranean cruise to Greece, so I thought I would share some general observations about the cruise and about the excursions we did, either through DCL or on our own. I have been posting some updates from the cruise on our blog in my sig line, but wanted to gear this specifically towards the kind of info I always look for from DISers who sail before us. This is the first time we have been on an inaugural cruise.

Barcelona: what a beautiful, unique city. Definitely worth flying in early or staying a day or two late (or both) to see this place. You don't want to miss the embarkation city as a port stop. There are two HOHO buses. We used Bus Turistic, prepurchased our tix online for a two-day pass so we didn't have to cram it all into one day. We also prepurchased tix to La Sagrada Familia church and after seeing the line around the building, we were glad we did. You get an hour window to enter, much like a Disney Fast Pass. While we didn't do the towers, others we talked to did and said it was fabulous. We took the metro to see the Magic Fountain, very easy to use. If you plan to use the Metro to get around, look into the T10 cards to save some money. Embarkation was easy enough from the terminal. You still get to board thru deck 3 into the atrium.

Villefranche: I don't know if it was because it was a Sunday, but the tendering process took forever. Our excursion meet time was before 8:00 and we didn't board our tour bus until 10:00. The port area is a bit jammed for buses, so that delays getting started as well. I don't know if any non-DCL excursion people got to tender to the shore early or not, so that might make a difference in any independent plans. As I said, I don't know if it was just because it was a Sunday or what was up. Our excursion was Monaco, Monte Carlo, and Eze. Our later departure made it so we were a little rushed in Monaco to be able to see the palace and also the changing of the guard, but it was a nice day. There was time for independent shopping and photos in each of the three stops. Monte Carlo was pretty much closed because it was Sunday, so not much opportunity to do anything there but hang around. We did get seriously expensive gelato (and have since had better and less costly scoops in other places). Eze was fabulous but I wish we had gone there first as we were tired by the end of the day. Here's a note, though... The tourism office in Eze has free wifi and is right by the parking area and the post office.

La Spezia: we did this port on our own taking the train to Cinque Terre, starting with Monterosso and working our way back to the ship. Tendering was super efficient, we were on the tender by 8:45 and walked to the train station in about 20 minutes which had us in line to buy our CT cards by 9:30. There was a bit of a line but still plenty of time to purchase the ticket, validate it, and get to the right platform for the 9:56 am train. This train is an express and was shoulder to shoulder packed, but the rest of the trip there was adequate seating. Civitavecchia: we used Rome in Limo to pick us up at the ship, so we literally walked off the ship and met our driver. On the way to the city, we passed several DCL buses. And while in the city, we saw a few of the groups, but after having had a bit too much free time on our Villefranche excursion, we were glad we had planned our own day so when we were ready to go from one place to the next, we could. We would use RIL again.

Piraeus: we did the DCL excursion to the Acropolis and Archaeological Museum with lunch in Plaka and some free time for shopping. The museum doesn't take a lot of time, but it was good to see it with a guide. It is set up so you can wander off a bit and still hear what the guide is saying in your whisper set but be able to get some pictures without a bajillion other people in them. The Acropolis is amazing, and we had about 45 minutes time to see and take pictures and make our own way down after a guided your to the top. It was seriously windy and dusty at the top, so hang onto your hats, and sunglasses help to protect your eyes from the sun and the dust.

Kusadasi: we did the DCL excursion to Ephesus, Miletus, and Didyma. It made for a long day but we got to see a lot of that part of Turkey. Our meeting time was 7:45, but they had the first group out the door by 7:40 from our meeting place. I know why they were eager to get going... We were the first group at Ephesus and the crowds behind us swelled throughout the morning. It was hot and dusty on this excursion, too. Our guide was very good and informative, kept the group moving but not too fast. Again, you could step ahead for photos and still hear on the whisper set. Miletus has the theater there and that's about it, and we had lunch in Didyma followed by a visit to the Temple of Apollo. There was a little time for souvenir shopping along the way. When we returned to Kusadasi, they dropped us off just outside the port shopping area so we could see a carpet making demonstration. We opted to skip that and return to the ship as that wasn't included in the tour description that I can recall.

Mykonos: we did this port on our own. There was a complimentary shuttle provided to take you to the town center where you could walk the streets of the old town or along the harbor. You can walk up to where fur of their windmills are. And make sure to look for their pelican. This was a lovely day and there is good shopping there, plus loads of cares, restaurants, etc. We bought postage stamps from a shopkeeper and mailed our postcards from the yellow post boxes along the waterfront.

Valletta, Malta: we booked a private driver and guide through DCL for the morning. They organize this very efficiently, taking us off the ship to meet our ride that was waiting for us. We didn't have a plan for the day except to see as much of the area as we could in the four hours time we had, and not do a lot of walking. So our guide suggested a panoramic drive which was perfect. We saw DCL groups at a few of our stops and were again happy to be making our own decisions about how much or little time we had for pictures and shopping. I am glad DCL makes this available, and there were quite a few groups who took them up on this offer. After returning to port, we walked about 15 minute to where the Barracca Lift is to get to the city of Valletta. It costs 1€ to ride and is worth it to not have to take the stairs. The upper gardens are beautiful and are also another free wifi spot. There is shopping and restaurants aplenty in the area, and if you get a chance, try a pastizzi.

DCL had two new menus that we were aware of: Bella Italia and Greek Isles, both of which we enjoyed. The entertainment on board has been ok with the biggest hit of the non Disney shows being Alfred and Seymour comedy that came onboard in Malta. Of course the Disney productions have been excellent as expected. I hope this is helpful to anyone going this season or planning for next.
Thank you so much, this has been so helpful since I am on the next Greece/Turkey sailing in July! I have some more questions if you don't mind:
1) Did they have special Med merchandise specific to this cruise (including Greece/Turkey) or was it just the regular Med stuff that applies to all the normal 7 night itineraries?
2) You said in La Spezia you were on the tender by 8:45. What time did you go to the theater to get tender tickets (so I have an idea of what time to arrive- we are also doing Cinque Terre).
3) How many Cinque Terre towns did you get to see? What train time did you take back to La Spezia?
4) It sounds like on Mykonos day that you docked at the new port, not the tender port? If so that is great that a complimentary shuttle was provided; some cruise lines charged for this.
5) Overall, how was the cruise?

Thanks so much!
 

Cindy,

What nights were the special menus?
Do you remember if they had any location specific entertainment such as the italian opera singer in italy etc?
In Kusadasi, where did you do lunch? Were there good places close to the ship?
 
Cindy,

I loved your summary :thumbsup2 Thanks so much for doing such great descriptions. We're considering going back to the Med next year and this is just great info. It's both helping me re-live our Med trip this year and getting me closer to booking a trip for next year :goodvibes

I really hope you do a full TR when you get back!
 
Just a note on La Spezia. If you are doing the Cinque Terra consider the tourist boat. It left from the port at 9:15. A full day is 25 Euros but we bought a one way fare for 15. it was wonderful. You see beautiful scenery and coming into each port you get amazing views of the town. We then trained between a few cities and back to the port.
 
Just a note on La Spezia. If you are doing the Cinque Terra consider the tourist boat. It left from the port at 9:15. A full day is 25 Euros but we bought a one way fare for 15. it was wonderful. You see beautiful scenery and coming into each port you get amazing views of the town. We then trained between a few cities and back to the port.

The train stations are close to the main areas of Cinque Terre making it easy to hop on/off between towns? Did you do any walks?
 
Having decided to NOT schedule myself into a box, I stood in that horrendous-looking line at the Sagrada Familia, which took about 30 minutes to get through. You can get a 1 euro discount through the Bus Touristic, but you will save a lot of money using the metro instead. We don't have trains where I live, and even I found the system easy to use. SF (and actually many of the other sights) has a decent student discount, so bring the student IDs for your older kids.
 
Thank you so much, this has been so helpful since I am on the next Greece/Turkey sailing in July! I have some more questions if you don't mind:
1) Did they have special Med merchandise specific to this cruise (including Greece/Turkey) or was it just the regular Med stuff that applies to all the normal 7 night itineraries?
2) You said in La Spezia you were on the tender by 8:45. What time did you go to the theater to get tender tickets (so I have an idea of what time to arrive- we are also doing Cinque Terre).
3) How many Cinque Terre towns did you get to see? What train time did you take back to La Spezia?
4) It sounds like on Mykonos day that you docked at the new port, not the tender port? If so that is great that a complimentary shuttle was provided; some cruise lines charged for this.
5) Overall, how was the cruise?

Thanks so much!

Using the last of my minutes now :)
Only Greece, nothing for Turkey
We walked into BVT at 8:30 and didn't even sit down... Handed us a ticket and sent us with the line that was already heading to the forward deck to get on the tender.
We got to all five but corniglia there was only time to climb the steps... If you want to see the town, you will need to plan to catch the 2nd train rather than the first after you get there. Watch the schedule because some don't stop there.
Yes, we docked, not tender in Mykonos.
Fabulous.
 
Cindy,

What nights were the special menus?
Do you remember if they had any location specific entertainment such as the italian opera singer in italy etc?
In Kusadasi, where did you do lunch? Were there good places close to the ship?

Bella Italia was nig 6 because we were laplaplaplap and it was our 2nd night in PC. Greek was next night. There was a Mediterranean menu on Mykonos night. My here is a historian/humanities lecturer on board
We had lunch in Didyma at a prearranged restaurant.
 
Having decided to NOT schedule myself into a box, I stood in that horrendous-looking line at the Sagrada Familia, which took about 30 minutes to get through. You can get a 1 euro discount through the Bus Touristic, but you will save a lot of money using the subway instead. We don't have trains where I live, and even I found the system easy to use.

Prepurchased your tickets for la Sagrada and you don't have to stand in line.
 
I'm on a lot of the same excursions! Tell me about the lunch in Turkey!
 
I'm on a lot of the same excursions! Tell me about the lunch in Turkey!

Cold buffet with local dishes, mostly recognizable food. And fresh fruit and veggies. They served a hot plate of fish or chicken. Then baklava for dessert and hot apple tea.
 
Prepurchased your tickets for la Sagrada and you don't have to stand in line.
Yes, but then I have to be somewhere at a specific time, and I am not in the mood to be regimented that way, especially if I discover something else I knew nothing about or if I want to linger at some other place prior.
 
Hopefully someone from the recent Greece cruise will be able to post how much the Shutters cd with all photos cost on the 12 night cruise. An earlier post mentioned that we can now pre purchase it for $399 without having to pay VAT, but if it costs the same on the cruise I will probably just wait.
 
Yes, but then I have to be somewhere at a specific time, and I am not in the mood to be regimented that way, especially if I discover something else I knew nothing about or if I want to linger at some other place prior.

My mother said that. So we stood in line for half an hour. Get there EARLY if you insist on this plan, but do not miss the inside do to the line. Amazing. And I have seen some of the great cathedrals in Europe and this was one of the best ever
 
Using the last of my minutes now :)
Only Greece, nothing for Turkey
We walked into BVT at 8:30 and didn't even sit down... Handed us a ticket and sent us with the line that was already heading to the forward deck to get on the tender.
We got to all five but corniglia there was only time to climb the steps... If you want to see the town, you will need to plan to catch the 2nd train rather than the first after you get there. Watch the schedule because some don't stop there.
Yes, we docked, not tender in Mykonos.
Fabulous.

Thanks for answering so quickly! Glad you had an amazing cruise!! I forgot another question- did the cruise pretty much stick to the pre-set port arrival/departure times as listed on the itinerary, or did you have any earlier ashore/all-aboard times in any of the ports?
 
Yes, but then I have to be somewhere at a specific time, and I am not in the mood to be regimented that way, especially if I discover something else I knew nothing about or if I want to linger at some other place prior.

I became a friend of La Sagrada Familia to skip the lines yet not be limited to a specific hours. For a family of 4 (potentially 6), it also works out to less money for tickets, not to mention the discounts on the extras such as gift shop and audio guides. Towers are also included, but not guaranteed for any given time as you are assigned first available spot from the moment you request the tickets, which may be hours later. I did it, it is super easy and they either mail the cards / tickets to you or have them waiting for you at the ticket booth. I highly recommend people look into this!:goodvibes
 
I became a friend of La Sagrada Familia to skip the lines yet not be limited to a specific hours. For a family of 4 (potentially 6), it also works out to less money for tickets, not to mention the discounts on the extras such as gift shop and audio guides. Towers are also included, but not guaranteed for any given time as you are assigned first available spot from the moment you request the tickets, which may be hours later. I did it, it is super easy and they either mail the cards / tickets to you or have them waiting for you at the ticket booth. I highly recommend people look into this!:goodvibes

This sounds great. How much was it and is it valid for only a year?
 

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