Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

[bpmorley]

Frankly, occupancy "rules" asside, the real issue where studios concerned is the type and quality of the bedding. Most DVC studios (with the exception of OKW) have a queen sized real bed and a pull out full size sofa. Very few people other than children are used to sleeping on a full sized bed of any kind, and a sofa sleeper, while technically the same as a double sized bed is more difficult because of the quality of the mattress. I can see 3 adults in one of those where there is a full sized pull out, and even 4 adults who can sleep in pairs at OKW, but beyond that, I don't consider the studios to be appropriate for most groups that have more than 3 adults or 3 children if one is under age 2.

Personally whatever the group using the studio can deal with is fine with me. It's none of my business

 

[dianeschlicht]

Personally whatever the group using the studio can deal with is fine with me. It's none of my business

It's fine with me too. I was merely stating what some uninitiated might not be aware of. Since most who come to this thread are people who are either renting or new owners, it's good to have them know ALL the information...not just the occupancy "rules".

BTW, it seems you are trying very hard to "pick a fight" on this thread the past few pages. It's not necessary. There IS no fight. This is a thread that is necessary for the unitiated to understand both the rules and the physical plant of the various room and villa sizes

 

[dmoore22]

For me that's ancient history! Looks like I'm going on an archeological dig for some very old documents.

I changed my mind. What's the point in looking up something that doesn't effect me directly. I probably put my POS in a secure undisclosed location.

 

[Dean]

Personally whatever the group using the studio can deal with is fine with me. It's none of my business

In general it's not OK with me partly because I feel rules should be followed but more specifically because there is real cost and adverse experience of others guests related to room stuffing. Those issues for a timeshare or condo make it the other owners business when rules are violated.

 

[Deb & Bill]

In general it's not OK with me partly because I feel rules should be followed but more specifically because there is real cost and averse experience of others guests related to room stuffing. Those issues for a timeshare or condo make it the other owners business when rules are violated.

I agree with you, Dean. It is our business as part owners of the complex.

 

[rabit]

It would be technically legal but it's nuts. Why not get a larger unit or two studios? Or stay off property if that's the only way one can afford it. That certainly doesn't sound like a vacation to me. However, while studios can sleep 4, they are not intended to so so for such a situation as yours.

this reaction is exactly what i mean ,also i forgot to say my daughter and son in law are also sharing a studio with their 2 kids then we are all moving to a treehouse for 10 days before going to VB for 4 more days. as for staying off property my wife and i stayed in Best Western LBV for 2 weeks in Feb. we had a week in Portugal in June and Sept. and probably will go to Spain in Jan.

 

[DenLo]

i am not promoting over occupancy but the fact that sometimes sleeping arrangements can be awkward ,next year i and my wife are sharing a studio with my sister and my wifes 15 year old nephew .to some of the participents on this thread this would be a calamity on a par with the ending of democracy

this reaction is exactly what i mean ,also i forgot to say my daughter and son in law are also sharing a studio with their 2 kids then we are all moving to a treehouse for 10 days before going to VB for 4 more days. as for staying off property my wife and i stayed in Best Western LBV for 2 weeks in Feb. we had a week in Portugal in June and Sept. and probably will go to Spain in Jan.

After months of reading threads/posts on the DIS, I don't think you are alone in booking a smaller villa for a short period before you can move into your larger accommodation. Many of us try to save points for a longer stay or multiple visits.

However, I wouldn't want to share the pullout couch with the 15 year old boy. And the feeling would probably be mutual with the 15 year old. But families can make things work for the greater good--10 days in a THV!

Hope you have a great trip!

 

[tjkraz]

I'm not going to play occupancy policy but my one hope is that folks are going the extra mile to care for their villa accommodations when stretching the limits on what the room can hold. When staying in a smaller room with 4 or 5 people the rooms are often filled with suitcases, airbeds, an Owner's Locker and so forth. It would seem that there is a greater likelihood of walls and furniture being damaged/abused when space is at a premium.

Whenever I read of rooms being in stub-standard state, my thoughts always turn toward what may have happened to get the room into such condition. Having luggage stacked in a corner and airbeds inflated in spaces where they barely fit certainly cannot be helping. And don't get me started on folks considering moving the sleeper chairs from the living room to the bedroom.

Chances are nothing said here is going to dissuade people from following their normal patterns--particularly if those patterns are allowed by DVC. But if nothing else, I appeal to folks to be a little extra conscious of how they treat the accommodations while vacationing. Abusing the villas can only lead to less "magical" stays for guests who follow (assuming the problems are not immediately discovered and rectified) and higher dues for us all.

 

[robinb]

However, I wouldn't want to share the pullout couch with the 15 year old boy. And the feeling would probably be mutual with the 15 year old.

No one needs to share the pull-out as a twin-sized inflatable mattress will fit in the room. A quick trip to Wal*Mart and $40-$50 later and you're good to go.

 

[dmoore22]

I'm not going to play occupancy policy but my one hope is that folks are going the extra mile to care for their villa accommodations when stretching the limits on what the room can hold. When staying in a smaller room with 4 or 5 people the rooms are often filled with suitcases, airbeds, an Owner's Locker and so forth. It would seem that there is a greater likelihood of walls and furniture being damaged/abused when space is at a premium.

Whenever I read of rooms being in stub-standard state, my thoughts always turn toward what may have happened to get the room into such condition. Having luggage stacked in a corner and airbeds inflated in spaces where they barely fit certainly cannot be helping. And don't get me started on folks considering moving the sleeper chairs from the living room to the bedroom.

Chances are nothing said here is going to dissuade people from following their normal patterns--particularly if those patterns are allowed by DVC. But if nothing else, I appeal to folks to be a little extra conscious of how they treat the accommodations while vacationing. Abusing the villas can only lead to less "magical" stays for guests who follow (assuming the problems are not immediately discovered and rectified) and higher dues for us all.

Excellent point! I've often wondered if the abusers are DVC owners, guests renting points, or guests paying the rack rate. One would think that there would be some level of respect and care for the property/units when one has invested a nice chunk of change for their ownership interest.

 

[BEASLYBOO]

Chances are nothing said here is going to dissuade people from following their normal patterns--particularly if those patterns are allowed by DVC. But if nothing else, I appeal to folks to be a little extra conscious of how they treat the accommodations while vacationing. Abusing the villas can only lead to less "magical" stays for guests who follow (assuming the problems are not immediately discovered and rectified) and higher dues for us all.

Nicely put and I share your views. Carpet spills, nicks, glass rings on furniture, I would say treat the villas as you would your home, but I'm afraid that's probably what's already happening!

 

[dianeschlicht]

Nicely put and I share your views. Carpet spills, nicks, glass rings on furniture, I would say treat the villas as you would your home, but I'm afraid that's probably what's already happening!

I fear you might be right! We take great care of our things both at home and on vacation, but I've seen some "homes" where it's obvious the occupants don't care that it looks run down. I suspect they feel the same way on vacation.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I fear you might be right! We take great care of our things both at home and on vacation, but I've seen some "homes" where it's obvious the occupants don't care that it looks run down. I suspect they feel the same way on vacation.

I agree. And I don't think it's clearly divided between members, non-members. I think there are some members out there who expect everyone to pick up after them, even when they spill something on the carpet.

 

[Dean]

Chances are nothing said here is going to dissuade people from following their normal patterns--particularly if those patterns are allowed by DVC. But if nothing else, I appeal to folks to be a little extra conscious of how they treat the accommodations while vacationing. Abusing the villas can only lead to less "magical" stays for guests who follow (assuming the problems are not immediately discovered and rectified) and higher dues for us all.

I have no beef with anyone following what is allowed by MS, any concerns there should be directed at the source. All size groups have a certain variability in how well they care for the unit and resort. However, there is an inherent increase in wear and tear when a room is overstuffed.

Excellent point! I've often wondered if the abusers are DVC owners, guests renting points, or guests paying the rack rate. One would think that there would be some level of respect and care for the property/units when one has invested a nice chunk of change for their ownership interest.

My personal experience is that renters are often far more reverent to the resort than are owners. Some will try to use the idea that you take better care of your "home" but that doesn't apply with DVC because you're not in the same unit or even resort and even if you were, it's only around once a year. DVC owners are just as likely, if not more so, to act like it's a rental car than someone renting from an owner. My experience in renting is that owners are by far the most difficult to deal with in general.

 

[dmoore22]

My experience in renting is that owners are by far the most difficult to deal with in general.

No doubt the biggest culprits are the first and loudest to complain when annual dues are increased to cover the cost of the repairs and/or replacement resulting from their abuses.

 

[rabit]

After months of reading threads/posts on the DIS, I don't think you are alone in booking a smaller villa for a short period before you can move into your larger accommodation. Many of us try to save points for a longer stay or multiple visits.

However, I wouldn't want to share the pullout couch with the 15 year old boy. And the feeling would probably be mutual with the 15 year old. But families can make things work for the greater good--10 days in a THV!

Hope you have a great trip!

thanks , and the 15 year old has his own inflatable sleeping bag.

 

[rabit]

Nicely put and I share your views. Carpet spills, nicks, glass rings on furniture, I would say treat the villas as you would your home, but I'm afraid that's probably what's already happening!

if i stay on or off site we always leave our accommodation as close as possible to the condition we received it in this includes cleaning the floor before we leave, i was raised to respect other people and their property and never to judge because i am by no means perfect.

 

[BEASLYBOO]

if i stay on or off site we always leave our accommodation as close as possible to the condition we received it in this includes cleaning the floor before we leave, i was raised to respect other people and their property and never to judge because i am by no means perfect.

and you were raised correctly! I'm not perfect either but I do expect my son to put a coaster under his drink without being told and I do expect him to pick up if he spills or to at least let me know so that I can clean it up. The condition of some of these villa's & their contents clearly show signs of abuse, that't not a judgement, it's just an observation.

 

[dianeschlicht]

and you were raised correctly! I'm not perfect either but I do expect my son to put a coaster under his drink without being told and I do expect him to pick up if he spills or to at least let me know so that I can clean it up. The condition of some of these villa's & their contents clearly show signs of abuse, that't not a judgement, it's just an observation.

I totally agree! So how are we going to get it to turn around? We all do our part, but how do we get the slobs to do their part too?

 

[BEASLYBOO]

I totally agree! So how are we going to get it to turn around? We all do our part, but how do we get the slobs to do their part too?

That's the $100,000 question! If the buzz from walking into a clean and well maintained villa doesn't do it, I don't know what will.