Marrieds choosing not to have kids

[zima-cheryl]

One doc I went to scared me to death with everything that "could" happen to be b/c of my problem.He told me if I do not get the shot I can end up paralized eventually, lose bowel funtions etc! Won't be going back to him anymore!

But the Physiatrist from Univ. of Penn- told me, yes, that can happen to SOME people, but not all! I liked his answer better! I will stick with him.

Don't forget about us!

Don't you love when they scare you like that?
I remember when I had my Lasik done... the nurse was nice enough to point out while only something like 2% of people actually go blind after the surgery, but of course if you are one of the 2% is it really 100% for you.


I guess maybe they feel legally they have to point these things out to you? But really... the bedside manor sometimes is just unbelievable!

(I really need to learn the trick to quoting multiple posts in one reply...don't I?)

 

[TKDisneylover]

Oh yes! I remember Don Kirshner's Rock Concert! I used to have a tiny black and white TV next to my bed and had the volume low so I did not wake anyone I can't remember how old I was (I will be 44 next month) I used to watch that and the old, or should I say REAL Saturday Night Live on my TV. ahhh- Chevy Chase used to crack me up when he would walk out and trip Or when he was reading the news and he would say "Hello, I am Chevy Chase........ and you're not.........." I would crack up at that- and no one else thought it was funny

Okay it's been verified, we are both 44 and children of the 80's! Well late 70's/80's. And I loved Saturday Night Live then, it was the funniest, now it's pretty boring IMHO. Gilda Radner was my fav, Rosanne Rosannadanna (not sure if that's how the name was, but you get my drift), was a great character along with Chevy doing the news. Jim Bulushi, Dan Akroyd, and all the others were fantastic comedians.

I used to watch Paranormal State. I gave up. The stories were very good (much more interesting than Ghost Hunters IMHO) but- they would do the investigation, which would be interesting, but they would say a prayer and that would be the end of it- the next day EVERYTHING seemed lighter... blah blah- give me a break.

I have been DVRing Ghost Hunters and I am losing interest in that too- someone needs to be in these places for about a week and then report back to me. I find it funny when the owners say- well, if TAPS finds something then I will be a believer.... ugh.......TAPS rarely finds anything!

I agree with you about Paranormal State, they did have interesting stories and I'm also noticing the are visiting some of the same places that were visited by TAPS. But your right, the prayer thing is weird.

And my DH and I were just saying how it seems like TAPS doesn't spend enough time at each place. It's like they are there for a few hours and then it's time to load up. And honestly, when they show the dudes going over the tapes it seems like they are barely paying attention. What could they be missing because they are sleeping on the job!

Have you watched the Ghost Hunters International?

You know what show used to be good- the one when the family would stay overnight in some haunted place with the cameras- that was pretty good. It had that Scottish dude (I think he was Scottish) on it. And surprisingly, the MTV show that used to be on years ago FEAR- that was good!

And the one Linda Blair hosted. Scariest Places on Earth- with the little woman form Poltergeist narrating. I think that was her anyway.

Now your talkin', I LOVED these shows!! I wish they would do them again! I've seen them repeat some of the Scariest Places recently, so I'm hoping maybe they will bring them back. It almost seemed like they had Linda Blair "rehosting", she looked a little different. You could tell that they had edited her into the old episodes or something. And I liked MTV's FEAR too, that's another good one. Something about them having the cameras attached as they would go out on their little missions, made you feel more like you were experiencing something. There was a lot more of a fear factor with those type of shows.

But back to Chip Coffey- he cracks me up- he is so dramatic But I love him. DH would watch the show with me sometimes and I would say- Come on! This a job for CHIP! And that woman Loraine- she is always saying "honey" and "dear" she is cute. But the whole just saying a prayer thing and everything is all peachy, does not cut it for me.

We'll have to see how Chip's show does. I DVR'd it for DH and he watched it last night and thought it was interesting.

 

[TKDisneylover]

Best part...I have off most of the winter except for collecting rents and paper work...I get to go to Florida for a month...PRICELESS...


BTW, EVERYONE...I am serious about DISer rates...I would love to meet you all someday. If I ever win the lottery, wanna join me at WDW?

A month in Flordia! SWEET! I would love to take a month vacation sometime, I have four weeks now, but I can't imagine using it all up at once. I have to save some for SUMMERFEST (as I've talked about in previous posts), and of course during the Christmas holiday because we always have family over and like to have everything just so in my home.

I'll remember the DISer rate for sure, nothing like getting away to Canada during the summer months! Thanks for the offer! And we'll definitely join you at WDW if you win the lottery, or even if our vacation weeks overlap it would be great to get together at the Adventurer's Club or something. What month do you guys typically schedule your WDW trips?

 

[PhotobearSam]

I'll remember the DISer rate for sure, nothing like getting away to Canada during the summer months! Thanks for the offer! And we'll definitely join you at WDW if you win the lottery, or even if our vacation weeks overlap it would be great to get together at the Adventurer's Club or something. What month do you guys typically schedule your WDW trips?

I love the Adventurer's Club....That would be awesome. We are looking at January fro trips from now on...Maybe into early Feb...
I bought a ticket...If I win, I will have to call my Favorite Child-free DISers...

 

[maddhatir]

(I really need to learn the trick to quoting multiple posts in one reply...don't I?)

OMG it is SO easy!

Just look right next to the (quote) button on the bottom right of the post- it has a " and a +- if you want to quote 3 people, just click on that for each post you want to quote- however, the last person you want to quote- hit the (quote) button for that post and it will then include all the little "+ that you chose!

Boy! I hope that did not end up confusing you???

 

[Mayhem2008]

Just checking in with you all so you don't think I've poofed..
I've been uber busy and haven't had much time to get on here lately...I'll get caught up hopefully, tomorrow afternoon. In the meantime have a great evening and take care!

 

[maddhatir]

OK- this is a perfect topic for us CF people......I took off of work and guess where *I* am going tomorrow??????

You will all love this one.........TO A KINDERGARTEN GRADUATION!

I love, love, love, love my little niece to death, so of course I would love to see her do anything, and this is not about her

......but what me is, that ANY kindergarten class should even have a graduation!!!

I said to DH "kindergarten!? Call me when you graduate COLLEGE. Now that is a reason to celebrate!" (I skipped right over high school.....that does not impress me either )

 

[Clotho]

I think "moving on" ceremonies are fun for the parents. But I would never expect anyone else to attend. And "graduation" sounds a little much for anything below high school.

I think it's great you "blew past high school", but that is an important ceremony for a lot of people. Not everyone goes to college, and not everyone who does graduates. It is more a rite of passage into adulthood in our culture than anything, and I think it's important. But below that, I am not sure what anyone thinks it symbolizes? So strange this trend!!

 

[TKDisneylover]

I think "moving on" ceremonies are fun for the parents. But I would never expect anyone else to attend. And "graduation" sounds a little much for anything below high school.

I have a great example for this topic. We received a card in the mail from my cousin's daughter about her graduating. Now I only see this cousin once a year for a family picnic and we actually had not seen him & his family the last two years as his family had a vacation planned one year & a funeral to attend the other. So when we received this card with her picture on it saying she "graduated", I thought to myself how time has flown by and that I didn't think she was old enough yet to be graduating high school. Well silly me, she graduated 8th grade and they were having this big party for her!

I agree that the high school graduation is sufficient for these types of parties and get togethers, but 8th grade, that's something that should be celebrated with close family members. After I had spoke with a few other family members and determined she was only graduating 8th grade, I felt that the $25.00 check I mailed as a gift because I could not attend was not justified. Am I just being cheap feeling this way or would you have also sent money?

I have to say I kinda feel like a dork now.

 

[PhotobearSam]

I have a great example for this topic. We received a card in the mail from my cousin's daughter about her graduating. Now I only see this cousin once a year for a family picnic and we actually had not seen him & his family the last two years as his family had a vacation planned one year & a funeral to attend the other. So when we received this card with her picture on it saying she "graduated", I thought to myself how time has flown by and that I didn't think she was old enough yet to be graduating high school. Well silly me, she graduated 8th grade and they were having this big party for her!

I agree that the high school graduation is sufficient for these types of parties and get togethers, but 8th grade, that's something that should be celebrated with close family members. After I had spoke with a few other family members and determined she was only graduating 8th grade, I felt that the $25.00 check I mailed as a gift because I could not attend was not justified. Am I just being cheap feeling this way or would you have also sent money?

I have to say I kinda feel like a dork now.

I so agree that 8th grade should be Mom Dad, siblings and grandparents only...This is going too far.

The only GRADUATION I had were a lot of people came was high school. This is getting ridiculous. Seems like a gift grab to me.


I am completely convinced that we reward mediocrity way too often in this world. Why does everyone have to get a ribbon. Why does every kid get to play in leagues after the age of 10...why do we celebrate grade 8th graduation? Are children not supposed to be able to pass the 8th grade?



We are (well not us as we don't have kids) producing a generation of self-absorbed, feeble minded, weak individuals. The don't cooperate well with other, have no work ethic, and are just downright RUDE and boring. There is no individuality in any of them.

A friend of mine who manages a Photolab in a huge grocery store told me yesterday that one of her 19 yr old employees complained that she had to work an 8 hr shift. My friend asked her What's wrong with that?. The kid answered that "It's a really long shift and she does not know IF she can do it...but she will try"
What kind of world are we coming to. I routinely work 12 plus hours a day...What a coddled twit. Her parents have done her a grave injustice by LETTING her become like that. It's disgusting.

 

[TKDisneylover]

We are (well not us as we don't have kids) producing a generation of self-absorbed, feeble minded, weak individuals. The don't cooperate well with other, have no work ethic, and are just downright RUDE and boring. There is no individuality in any of them.

What kind of world are we coming to. I routinely work 12 plus hours a day...What a coddled twit. Her parents have done her a grave injustice by LETTING her become like that. It's disgusting.

Oh this is all so true! I can't believe how many teens say there are no jobs out there for them, and then you mention the jobs available in the fast food/restaurant business, well they can't do that kind of work!" And I had recently read an article about the future of employment in the United States, stating that employers will need to make the job "appealing" to the younger applicant so they will want to work for the company with all the perks included.

I can remember working at Arby's fast food restaurant when I was a teenager and I begged for as many hours as I could get. At times they had to refuse me because I was "over" hours for my age! Of course I payed for my own car, my car insurance, and all of my own clothes. My parents could not afford to pay for all of the luxuries that many parents pay for their kids now. They also could not afford to send us to college so my dad always said, learn as many different skills as you can and work as hard as you can because the employer will be more apt to keep you over someone else is who didn't have as strong a work ethic. I have to tell you that I have many skills under my belt which include customer service, cooking, welding, punch press, packaging, and 12-head embroidery operation. I started taking night school courses for clerical work because I didn't want to be in a machine shop all my life. I started working for an attorney after I got out of school and then applied for a clerical position with the County. Thankfully they hired me and 21-years later, 4 weeks vacation, and 12 sick days a year (which are accumulative to 900), I'm pretty happy and hoping to retire in 9 more years.

Okay, I guess that may have been TMI, but I was on a roll .

 

[Poppinsme]

Hey everybody!
And heres my Bulldog pics of "Buddy" who we adopted from Bulldog rescue.

Our other dog Bruno.

Our 5 horses.

 

[Liisa]

Poppinsme,

I Love Him!!! He's got that look that just makes you want to squish him in a big hug. What a little ham.

What breed is your other dog? He (edited to read he: Bruno, of course it's a "he") is gorgeous... of course, I've always been partial to black dogs as my first was a big black bear!

Thanks soooo much for sharing.

Liisa

 

[Quiksilvr]

I so agree that 8th grade should be Mom Dad, siblings and grandparents only...This is going too far.

The only GRADUATION I had were a lot of people came was high school. This is getting ridiculous. Seems like a gift grab to me.


I am completely convinced that we reward mediocrity way too often in this world. Why does everyone have to get a ribbon. Why does every kid get to play in leagues after the age of 10...why do we celebrate grade 8th graduation? Are children not supposed to be able to pass the 8th grade?



We are (well not us as we don't have kids) producing a generation of self-absorbed, feeble minded, weak individuals. The don't cooperate well with other, have no work ethic, and are just downright RUDE and boring. There is no individuality in any of them.

I don't mean to jump in on your conversation, but I agree with this 100%. I didn't have this continual congratulation for doing the minimum when I was a kid and I think my self-esteem turned out fine. I just don't see the point of having parties for every little thing that comes along. Some of my extended family is like that and it drives me crazy. I refuse to participate in those shenanigans. I'm also not buying some snot-nosed, generally sullen or ungrateful child an 8th-grade "graduation" present. It's not like I owe them anything. If it's a graduation, let's see the degree. If there is a degree, then I'll cough up some cash.

I don't recall having a party for myself when I graduated from high school or college. My family and I went out for dinner on graduation day and that was about the extent of it. The only graduation party I've ever had was for graduating law school and I don't think I'm being selfish if I say I think I deserved one for that particular achievement.

I think people just want excuses to heap praise upon their children even if their children don't really deserve it.

 

[JEmaryland]

Oh this is all so true! I can't believe how many teens say there are no jobs out there for them, and then you mention the jobs available in the fast food/restaurant business, well they can't do that kind of work!" And I had recently read an article about the future of employment in the United States, stating that employers will need to make the job "appealing" to the younger applicant so they will want to work for the company with all the perks included.

I can remember working at Arby's fast food restaurant when I was a teenager and I begged for as many hours as I could get. At times they had to refuse me because I was "over" hours for my age! Of course I payed for my own car, my car insurance, and all of my own clothes. My parents could not afford to pay for all of the luxuries that many parents pay for their kids now. They also could not afford to send us to college so my dad always said, learn as many different skills as you can and work as hard as you can because the employer will be more apt to keep you over someone else is who didn't have as strong a work ethic. I have to tell you that I have many skills under my belt which include customer service, cooking, welding, punch press, packaging, and 12-head embroidery operation. I started taking night school courses for clerical work because I didn't want to be in a machine shop all my life. I started working for an attorney after I got out of school and then applied for a clerical position with the County. Thankfully they hired me and 21-years later, 4 weeks vacation, and 12 sick days a year (which are accumulative to 900), I'm pretty happy and hoping to retire in 9 more years.

Okay, I guess that may have been TMI, but I was on a roll .

You are totally correct.
And it's not just kids either, it's young adults, too!
I was just talking to a friend of mine from high school today. We're both 23, he'll be 24 in 2 months. This guy is still living with his grandparents (they raised him) and relying soley on them for money because he "can't find a job". I'm sorry, but with every fast food restaurant posting huge signs that they are hiring, I find it hard to believe no one will hire you. I worked tons of crappy jobs since I was 14, and for 3 1/2 years I've been in a very nice career that allows me to live comfortably on my own. People just expect things to be handed to them.

 

[Poppinsme]

Poppinsme,

I Love Him!!! He's got that look that just makes you want to squish him in a big hug. What a little ham.

What breed is your other dog? He (edited to read he: Bruno, of course it's a "he") is gorgeous... of course, I've always been partial to black dogs as my first was a big black bear!

Thanks soooo much for sharing.

Liisa

Oh thank you so much.
Bruno is a 10 year old pound puppy. He is husky, chow and labrador. Bruno is a loving, sweet and fabulous guard dog.
He is our big fur bear.

 

[maddhatir]

I felt that the $25.00 check I mailed as a gift because I could not attend was not justified. Am I just being cheap feeling this way or would you have also sent money?

I have to say I kinda feel like a dork now.

25 bucks is plenty for a kid that you never see! Don't you dare feel like a dork!

I gave my niece Shel Silverstein's "Where the Sidewalk Ends" for her kindergarten graduation. Come on? Why does that warrant a cash prize!?

 

[maddhatir]

We are (well not us as we don't have kids) producing a generation of self-absorbed, feeble minded, weak individuals. The don't cooperate well with other, have no work ethic, and are just downright RUDE and boring. There is no individuality in any of them.

I wonder if some parents have a clue what they are doing to our future

Today I was shopping in Bath and Body. There was a woman in there pushing a baby in a stroller, her son was about 7 and her daughter was maybe 9 or 10. Well, the whole STINKING time I was looking arounf (it was about a half hour b/c they were aving a great sale) her kids were wacking each other with these freaking squeeky rubber duckies they sold in the store!!! The squeeking was NON STOP! And the mother??????, oh- she was freaking OBLIVIOUS to the noise!!

I wanted to poke my eyes out!

 

[PhotobearSam]

I wonder if some parents have a clue what they are doing to our future

Today I was shopping in Bath and Body. There was a woman in there pushing a baby in a stroller, her son was about 7 and her daughter was maybe 9 or 10. Well, the whole STINKING time I was looking arounf (it was about a half hour b/c they were aving a great sale) her kids were wacking each other with these freaking squeeky rubber duckies they sold in the store!!! The squeeking was NON STOP! And the mother??????, oh- she was freaking OBLIVIOUS to the noise!!

I wanted to poke my eyes out!

I have been known to tell the parents..."I don't apprecaite to have to listen to that. Make them Stop"...I have yet to have a parent tell me to mind my own business...but if they ever do I have the greatest come back line "I would if you just minded yours better"

Once in a store where this 2 to 3 yr old girl screamed for 15 minutes "I want it now!!!" at the top of her lungs I went to the mother and said "Shut her up...we don't need to hear how awful your parenting skills are" It was a top of the lungs, high pitched, screams...The mother acted like it was normal.



another time I told the parent to "Shut it up or take it home" after witnessing a parent LET her child take item after item from the shelves at Walmart and smash them to the floor screaming "I want it I want it" while the mother just walked away oblivious. It was not like the mother looked embarrassed or was trying to call the child down. She could not be bothered.

Now I am not saying that everyone who has children is like this...My brother would rather die than have his kids act that way and most of my friends are really good too.


Has anyone noticed when calling friends who have children, that they let their children Scream in the background while they are on the phone? When I was a kid, the second my parents got on the phone, we HAD to shut up. We only got one warning and then we would be punished.

Also, I have seen adults watching whatever their child wants to watch...I cannot imagine my Dad watching Sesame Street instead of CNN just because we wanted to watch it. People now give their kids too much power.

I called an employee a few years ago to come to work earlier but when I called her Dad said she was asleep. It's was 11 am. If my boss would have called me when I was 17 at 11 am, my Mom would have woke me. PERIOD. It does not matter how late I got in or how tired I was. She would have not come into my room and gingerly whispered for me to wake up...she would have stormed into my room and kicked my bed and said "Your boss is on the phone, GET UP!" It taught me that "Even if you don't like it, you made a commitment to that job and you have to follow through"

One of the parcel boys at our grocery store had his mom tell us that 2 shifts a week were his maximum because he was going to get too tired...It was summer...his shifts were 4 to 5 hours long...TIRED!?!?!?!?

If I had to go back to high school now, I would have to become a lesbian or a nun. There is not one teenage boy MANLY enough for me to have even considered dating. They don't dress well, they hardly wash, nobody knows how to use a comb and they are soooooo lazy.

I dated everyone from the class jock to the metal head and they all could whip this generations assets all over school. I want to feel SAFE and secure when with a man, these kids could not protect a flee.

RANT OVER....just having a bad day.

 

[maddhatir]

OH NO Sam! How can you already be having a bad day!!!? Hope it gets better as the day goes on!

That is funny that you say those things to parents! I think I would just see black and lose it and say the wrong thing that may include a few words that start with F.....throw in a few B's for the mom etc

You know, when I hang out with my SIL (I love her to death!) she will tell me about some of the kid's shows or sing kid's songs like I am aware of what's going on!? I will give her a puzzled look and she will say- "you never heard of that?" WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD I??? And thank god that I do not work that crap into my conversations ( did I mention- I love her to death )

I can actually say those things to her and she does not mind- she just laughs.