Marathon Weekend 2016

[poppinspal]

The best way to deal with chaffing is to avoid it. I would personally put some Vaseline on it to just keep the friction to a minimum but this is not my area of expertise, I am lucky to not have had this issue much.

As for the training. I would say to go out with the intention of doing the 9 and if your not feeling good get as much as you can. You can always slow down your pace to get the 9 miles in. As for recovering from hydration, eat some salty foods. This helps you retain more water. Banana's are good too. Foods with a lot of water in them, like watermelon, strawberries, etc....

This is my first experience with it. I've run tons of 5ks, half marathons and never had a problem with chaffing. I think it was a combination of factors that just all worked against me. Hopefully this is my last time experiencing it as well!!

I think that's what I'm going to do. I'm trying to take it easy these few days after the race and hopefully I'll be able to get the 9 done even if it's at a slower pace then I'd normally do them in.

As the heat increases, I would recommend taking salt tabs during your long runs. One tab each hour will help prevent dehydration and cramping as long as you're taking in moderate amounts of fluids too. I use Salt Stick but there are other good brands too.

I think this might be something I need to start thinking about considering the heat doesn't look like it will breaking any time soon. Come December I'm going to be asking the best way to deal with freezing rain and the heat will seem like ages ago.

 

[GreatLakes]

So I'm training for my first marathon. This past weekend put a little wrench in my plans and I thought I'd ask for some advice here. I ran a 7.1 mile race this weekend up here in MA and like others have said the heat has been brutal. I had hydrated well but due to the heat, humidity and lack of shade I still ended up mildly dehydrated. I run this race every year and I've never been this wiped out the day after. Looking at the Galloway plan I'm following it had called for 4 miles this past weekend and 9 this coming weekend. If I'm not read for 9 by this weekend could I dial it back to about 4 miles and just pick up with the plan the following weekend? I'm assuming this won't set me back too much.

Also I'm dealing with two things post race today that I've never really had to... dehydration and chaffing. I am drinking plenty of water as always but any other tips to get your body back to normal after this? As for the chaffing, I was sweating so much my own shorts rubbed the inside of my legs pretty bad, how do you deal with chaffing post race? Honestly never had this happen.

Thanks for the advice! Happy Monday everyone.

You guys...
I did my first 6 miler today! (6.04 technically)
Despite the exclamation point, I'm not really excited so much as exhausted. This was 6 minutes & 0.3 miles longer than my last long run, and in not-great conditions. It took a lot out of me.
If this is how I feel after 6 miles ... I'm glad the 10K is 5 months away. I don't think I could have made it another 0.2 miles. Thankfully, I've got plenty of time to work on that.
This is just the exhaustion speaking and I'll be happy about it in a few hours, right?

Others have already given you great advice but I wanted to echo what everyone else has said and don't read too much into a bad run or race, especially if the conditions were not good. I purposely did my 14 mile run a few weekends ago at noon while it was 89 degrees just to get a hot and humid long run in. At the end I was spent, more emotionally then physically, but it helped to prepare me for a very humid race I did this past weekend. It also made the 15 mile long run I did the following week in the mid 70's feel much easier. I equate it to swinging a heavy bat while on deck to prepare you for to hit the fastball with a lighter bat.

I prefer water even during the hot and humid runs but will substitute an electrolyte water (like SmartWater) for regular water and will make sure to have a gel or two to help get me through it. If it is a really hot or humid day I will dissolve a Nuun tablet in a glass of water and drink that about 20 minutes before heading out. It is important to try a few things out to see what works for you.

Along those lines make sure to see what sports drink will be offered at any race you are doing and try to simulate using that on a long run or two. If you are running a race that hands out Gatorade and you have only trained with something else you don't want to find out on race day that your stomach doesn't like Gatorade.

 

[Melissa Quantock]

For princess there was a storm and they were doing bib pick up the day of the race. I cant remember if it was for the half or 5k though since we did both.



I see great lakes, it wasnt twilight at the zoo was it??



Lately the pre order jackets have been the champion long sleeve full zip up, and they just change up the logo. They are not my favorite fit for a jacket, so I generally pass on them. The ones available at the expo are usually more extravagant, if you will.

Thanks...I'm not going to be getting to the expo until Thursday late afternoon after we drop our luggage at the hotel. I'm worried I'll miss out on some of the items being gone...fingers crossed something will be left for the Marathon. Thanks so much!

 

[PrincessV]

Decided to try a different pair of shoes - bought a pair of Newton Fate shoes yesterday. Ran 4 miles in them this morning and think that I may have found my new favorite running shoes. My plantar fasciitis reacted very well on the run, even though I was really pushing myself. Need a few more runs to be sure, but I have rarely found a shoe that felt as good on the first run.

I don't love the color (orange), but the ride was great.

It's a great shoe, isn't it?! How do you feel about lime green? Running Warehouse had the lime on sale as of a couple weeks ago...

Also I'm dealing with two things post race today that I've never really had to... dehydration and chaffing. I am drinking plenty of water as always but any other tips to get your body back to normal after this? As for the chaffing, I was sweating so much my own shorts rubbed the inside of my legs pretty bad, how do you deal with chaffing post race?

FL runner here, so I'm running in high heat and humidity May through Oct. It's exceedingly rare for runners to die (maybe never?) of dehydration, but overhydration is a major problem. If you drink too much water, it depletes electrolytes - and THAT is a bad, bad thing. Possible you had a taste of that, but also possible the heat just got to you if that's unusual for your area. I'm totally acclimated and run in 100+ weather at this point, but my salt intake goes up in summer and I use Nuun or Gatorade for all runs to make sure I don't lose too many electrolytes.

As others have said, they key to avoiding chafing is to be proactive. I swear by 2 Toms Sportshield roll-on before running.

What the heck. I was just at ****'s. I bought more Asics. I didn't see anything besides the normal brand names.

My Dick's doesn't carry Newton, either. But Running Warehouse does! Free shipping, too.

 

[rteetz]

Thanks...I'm not going to be getting to the expo until Thursday late afternoon after we drop our luggage at the hotel. I'm worried I'll miss out on some of the items being gone...fingers crossed something will be left for the Marathon. Thanks so much!

When I went Thursday last year the only thing I couldn't find was the rundisney magic bands which were sold out on the first day. Also the new balance shoes had a lot of sizes sold out but they luckily had mine.

 

[stitchnj]

Expo question - is there transportation from the expo to Downtown Disney? We have dinner reservations the first night at Portobello and I am wondering if we should go somewhere else.

 

[Ariel484]

Expo question - is there transportation from the expo to Downtown Disney? We have dinner reservations the first night at Portobello and I am wondering if we should go somewhere else.

No. You could get a bus to Saratoga Springs and walk to DtD from there.

 

[stitchnj]

Thanks! That's what I figured...

 

[BuckeyeBama]

It's a great shoe, isn't it?! How do you feel about lime green? Running Warehouse had the lime on sale as of a couple weeks ago...

The men's colors are different - the Fate only comes in Orange and Electric Blue for men. I saw both at Dick's and the blue was horrid in person (doesn't look too bad on the web site).

I ran in them again today - Yasso 800 repeats - another great run. I'll give them another week and if I still love them I will buy a few more pair on-line.

 

[GreatLakes]

No. You could get a bus to Saratoga Springs and walk to DtD from there.

Or a bus to POR and take the boat. Those would be the two routes I would go.

 

[Neoflynn]

So I'm training for my first marathon. This past weekend put a little wrench in my plans and I thought I'd ask for some advice here. I ran a 7.1 mile race this weekend up here in MA and like others have said the heat has been brutal. I had hydrated well but due to the heat, humidity and lack of shade I still ended up mildly dehydrated. I run this race every year and I've never been this wiped out the day after. Looking at the Galloway plan I'm following it had called for 4 miles this past weekend and 9 this coming weekend. If I'm not read for 9 by this weekend could I dial it back to about 4 miles and just pick up with the plan the following weekend? I'm assuming this won't set me back too much.

Also I'm dealing with two things post race today that I've never really had to... dehydration and chaffing. I am drinking plenty of water as always but any other tips to get your body back to normal after this? As for the chaffing, I was sweating so much my own shorts rubbed the inside of my legs pretty bad, how do you deal with chaffing post race? Honestly never had this happen.

Thanks for the advice! Happy Monday everyone.

I sweat, like A LOT, when I run so I had some chaffing issues in the past but luckily for me its only been my chest specficily the nips, so now when I know ill be doing a long run ill place band aids there for extra protection on my shorter runs ill slap some body glide on and I'm usually good to go as I increase distance I'm curious to see if any other issues arise but I think I might be ok as I wear compression shorts underneath my running shorts and that seems to help prevent any problems. As for dehydration unfortunately once you start feeling the effects of it, its already to late the best thing you can do is try to drink a little bit through out the run even if you don't feel thirsty, look into some sort of hydration pack or belt if you need to, I take mine on all my runs and usually try to drink a little bit at least every mile

You guys...
I did my first 6 miler today! (6.04 technically)
Despite the exclamation point, I'm not really excited so much as exhausted. This was 6 minutes & 0.3 miles longer than my last long run, and in not-great conditions. It took a lot out of me.
If this is how I feel after 6 miles ... I'm glad the 10K is 5 months away. I don't think I could have made it another 0.2 miles. Thankfully, I've got plenty of time to work on that.
This is just the exhaustion speaking and I'll be happy about it in a few hours, right?

way to get out there and get it done...trust me it will become easier as you get used to the distance and you are going to have no trouble come January

 

[Waiting2goback]

My ****'s doesn't carry Newton, either. But Running Warehouse does! Free shipping, too.

I need to try them on first though. I got some new Asics yesterday and did an easy run this morning (4.5 miles) to see how they did with the pain. My right shin pain was mostly gone and my foot hurt less. But now my foot is killing me. Maybe a few more runs and they will break in and be even better. I may have to accept the fact I might have to miss my fall races to stay in one piece for January. I'm bummed.

 

[GrandAdmiralStrife]

So my Summer Half Marathon training officially ended tonight! Onward to Dopey!

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I need to try them on first though. I got some new Asics yesterday and did an easy run this morning (4.5 miles) to see how they did with the pain. My right shin pain was mostly gone and my foot hurt less. But now my foot is killing me. Maybe a few more runs and they will break in and be even better. I may have to accept the fact I might have to miss my fall races to stay in one piece for January. I'm bummed.

Yeah,I was bummed that I didn't get into the NYC marathon but am glad now given my plantar fasciitis. Even doing all of the right things and running in great shoes, there is still pain. I'll be glad when I am past this. But it is going to take a lot more than plantar fasciitis to keep me from finishing the Dopey in January.

(hope I didn't just jinx myself )

 

[Simba's Mom]

Logistics question: Anyone have insight as to when to arrive for bib pickup, etc.? More specifically, I'm trying to gauge if I need to plan to try and get there Tuesday (flying in from New Mexico) because of the high volume of people coming in all at once. Not sure if there's any particularly bad travel effects like delayed planes, etc. to be banking on because of the incoming crowd, or if just getting there and heading straight for the Expo on Wednesday is (probably) fine.

Since, on our last flight, we ended up getting to our final destination a full 24 hours late (cancelled flights, change of airport, etc.) we're going to be sure this time and scheduled our flight for Tuesday. DH figured it would be better to be there and relax, rather than be stressed and constantly hoping flights go OK.

 

[IamTrike]

Hi there - jumping into this thread as you wonderful people provide so much great information and encouragement! I am signed up for the Dopey challenge. I did the Princess half in 2012 and got hooked on Disney races, then did the full marathon in 2013. I have been more focused on triathlons since then doing 2 half Ironmans and one full IM but I can't wait to get back and run in WDW again! Planning on following the Hal Higdon plan if anyone has any experience or input with that I would love to hear it!

I'm in the middle of Higdon's Advanced Marathon plan. I'm using it for the Chicago marathon. I just started week 11. I've done a lot of Marathon's and this is by far the biggest time commitment. Right now I'm between 50 and 60 miles most week, and a lot of that running is happening mid week. There is heavy emphasis on speedwork and tempo work. For the speedwork it will be easiest if you have access to a track or treadmill. I'm doing the plan with 2 other friends and we track our progress on runkeeper which is great encouragement. My buddy who suggested we us this plan used the halp plan to drop his half time from around 1:40 to 1:35. Given that Higdon is 6 days a week running it should be good prep for Dopey.

A full IM . I would like to do one of those one day... two things need to happen first.
1. Run a sub 3:05:00 marathon (BQ) before turning 35.
2. Find a way to talk my wife into thinking an IM and all its training is a good idea.

#2 is probably going to be more difficult to accomplish. Good luck as you prepare for Disney!

I wish that BQ'ing was within my reach. I need to take about 35 minutes of my marathon time. My goal for chicago is to take off 10 minutes (but the plan I'm using is for a pace that's 20 minutes faster than my current PR.

 

[LSUlakes]

I'm in the middle of Higdon's Advanced Marathon plan. I'm using it for the Chicago marathon. I just started week 11. I've done a lot of Marathon's and this is by far the biggest time commitment. Right now I'm between 50 and 60 miles most week, and a lot of that running is happening mid week. There is heavy emphasis on speedwork and tempo work. For the speedwork it will be easiest if you have access to a track or treadmill. I'm doing the plan with 2 other friends and we track our progress on runkeeper which is great encouragement. My buddy who suggested we us this plan used the halp plan to drop his half time from around 1:40 to 1:35. Given that Higdon is 6 days a week running it should be good prep for Dopey.


I wish that BQ'ing was within my reach. I need to take about 35 minutes of my marathon time. My goal for chicago is to take off 10 minutes (but the plan I'm using is for a pace that's 20 minutes faster than my current PR.

I still have a ways to go before a BQ, but it is a goal. Current marathon PR is 3:43:xx. I had a injury going into that marathon that lead to a 6 week taper and a much slower time. My summer runs are better than last year at this time which should improve as it gets cooler. This year is a stepping stone to the bigger goal. Early 2017 will be my first real attempt at a BQ.

 

[Kathymford]

The main thing I do not like with the Higdon's plans are the long runs during the week (doing Half Novice 1). I don't get off work until 6/630 p.m. sometimes and I am slow, so running for more than an hour, twice a week, before dinner is rough. I've finally just settled on running 45 mins (sometimes an hour) 2x a week and not worry about the distance.

Then again, I am only training for a half.

 

[Waiting2goback]

Yeah,I was bummed that I didn't get into the NYC marathon but am glad now given my plantar fasciitis. Even doing all of the right things and running in great shoes, there is still pain. I'll be glad when I am past this. But it is going to take a lot more than plantar fasciitis to keep me from finishing the Dopey in January.

(hope I didn't just jinx myself )

Yep, I feel the same way, although I'm not doing Dopey. I wanted to kill my September 1/2 as it is my POT race for this race. I was going to attempt a BQ at my October marathon, and then WDW marathon was going to be a fun race to soak up the atmosphere. Now I am readjusting my goals. I will still attempt my fall races. My current pace is still faster than all of my races last year so I should be in for a good corral. And my October marathon was a disaster last year (my first) so it will just be a learning experience again this year. But, I will finish in Disney if it kills me. My leg would have to fall off or I would have to pass out from the pain in my foot to not finish.

 

[IamTrike]

The main thing I do not like with the Higdon's plans are the long runs during the week (doing Half Novice 1). I don't get off work until 6/630 p.m. sometimes and I am slow, so running for more than an hour, twice a week, before dinner is rough. I've finally just settled on running 45 mins (sometimes an hour) 2x a week and not worry about the distance.

Then again, I am only training for a half.

Yeah to do this plan I've pretty much had to adjust my life. I'm fortunate in that my work campus has a gym/running trails and showers, but it means I usually get to work 2 hours earlier than I did in the past in order to get my run/shower in before my work day starts.