Magical ? Not so much.

[mustlovecats]

I'm sure they'll calculate the limit based on current room occupancy rates... at any rate, resort guests, AP holders and guests with ADRs or other reservations are allowed in all at Phase 3, so they probably won't disappoint too many...

They would have disappointed the OP who arrived at 11... How many is too many?

 

[hsmamato2]

You... deliberately did not research a trip that is easily researchable? When you have been to the parks multiple times and know that there are resources available?

That's an interesting choice.

I think so too.... now OP has every right to their opinions,as we all do-And yes I feel there are some things that I don't like about the newer setup.... but last summer we took a trip to the local Six Flags(ew don't get me started) and I spent a bit of time online ahead of time looking at the maps,planning where to park,checking costs,etc before we went.( we went at opening, to avoid late day crowds as suggested and were glad we did)
I would suggest that any Disney visitor would be wise to at least check on conditions,crowd levels ,maybe a day or two ahead of a visit. I know I would. And OP you should go to guest service and link those old passes to a new RFID ticket,so you can have it in your MDE account,and choose 3 Fp ahead of time for your next visit. Even just to avoid searching out the in park kiosk.Very simple to do this.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

The reality is turning away guests before the park is at capacity, and capacity based on fire codes not comfort, is not a good business decision. What Disney should be aiming to do is even out their attendance curve so there are no longer any low crowd times. Having large fluctuations in the crowd level is not ideal from an operational standpoint.

What is "comfort" though, if you are running Disney parks, how do you put a head count on "comfort" and decide to say "from this point on nobody gets in?" The fire code is easy because that is a finite number that the fire marshal has decided is the maximum number of persons that can safely be in the park, who is going to decide how many people in the park is "comfortable?" Can you run a theme park business doing that? Can you define exactly when crowd levels exceed comfort? Each guest is going to see that point differently. For the OP it is apparently when nobody has to wait in any attraction line longer than 30 minutes. It won't be the same for others.

Disneyland had to limit annual passholders; WDW is starting to do that too by jacking up the price of the regular pass this year, and offering a blackout date option at a discount to DVC members as well as Florida residents. That may clear a bit out, but they want those guests replaced by day trippers with multi-day or one day tix, they don't want to leave space open in the parks on the most popular times.

Disney also doesn't decide when school breaks are. That's the main reason you get the fluctuations in attendance. That's even changed a bit: fall breaks are a thing now, which means more attendance around October; there are now foreign tour group "seasons;" and some areas have gone to year-round school and don't have the same traditional school breaks. But almost everybody has a spring break and a winter break. That's when they usually come to WDW. That's also when it will cost the most to fly to Florida or rent a hotel room...but people still come in droves, because they want to and they can.

 

[dlavender]

There are lots of things there though that really are wastes of space though. Tomorrowland could use a lot of help as there are two good sized show buildings that never operate at capacity. There is space they just chose to try and force people into the existing space rather than actually making them appealing.

This is the "easy" answer, IMO. What if Stitch became something that more than 23 people wanted to see in a day? What if the laughing floor became something that more than 47 people wanted to see in a day? That would "suck" some people out of the walkways and out of other lines. Hopefully Star Wars expansion in HS takes some of MK's attendance. Probably won't be significant, but one can hope....

 

[dancemonkey]

Well, I wrote it so I know what my intention was.

Nobody would know if easy to get FPs were held back because they would routinely be available day of whether they were held back or not.

My confusion. Sorry.

 

[no one]

Its pretty funny that the OP once posted to a thread that was started by someone asking about best WDW apps for an iphone and he asked if there was free Wifi in the parks. So he knew there were ways to research this ahead of time.

 

[WIcruizer]

What is "comfort" though, if you are running Disney parks, how do you put a head count on "comfort" and decide to say "from this point on nobody gets in?" The fire code is easy because that is a finite number that the fire marshal has decided is the maximum number of persons that can safely be in the park, who is going to decide how many people in the park is "comfortable?" Can you run a theme park business doing that? Can you define exactly when crowd levels exceed comfort? Each guest is going to see that point differently. For the OP it is apparently when nobody has to wait in any attraction line longer than 30 minutes. It won't be the same for others.

That sums it up nicely. Maybe I'm twisted, but I actually like the parks crowded. I've been there, even in recent years, when it wasn't real busy and it felt weird. Can't explain why, it just did. Then again, we love late EMH, especially when MK is open until 1 or 2 AM. So we don't fight to get on attractions during the day. Just our 3 FP+, and whatever lines aren't long. Then we can go on whatever we want after 11:00 PM or so.

Disney has done all they can do to spread out crowds throughout the year. It's in their best interest to do so. Free dining plan, discounts on resorts at slow times, etc. But no matter what there will be times that are always very busy. So either avoid those times, or know the parks will be packed. Nobody is to blame, it's just reality.

Same with the price or tickets, food, resorts. Complaining doesn't change anything. The prices are fair, IMHO. Some people don't agree, and no longer go to WDW. That's fine. I get it. We don't use DCL anymore for that reason. Could we afford it? Yes. But we choose not to pay far more for DCL, for now. But judging by attendance, not enough people think WDW is over=priced enough not to go.

 

[maxiesmom]

Its pretty funny that the OP once posted to a thread that was started by someone asking about best WDW apps for an iphone and he asked if there was free Wifi in the parks. So he knew there were ways to research this ahead of time.

For real? Geesh. I don't understand not doing research and then complaining about things that could have been avoided had you done some research. Seems silly.

 

[Angel Ariel]

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Its pretty funny that the OP once posted to a thread that was started by someone asking about best WDW apps for an iphone and he asked if there was free Wifi in the parks. So he knew there were ways to research this ahead of time.

The OP explained that his wife specifically asked him not to research. It was never that he didn't know how to.

 

[Magpie]

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The OP explained that his wife specifically asked him not to research. It was never that he didn't know how to.

If my husband said, "Don't research our next trip," I'd laugh at him and research anyway. And if by some chance I actually followed his advice and we had a bad time, I'd blame myself, not him. After all, as a planner, I know better!

 

[Angel Ariel]

If my husband said, "Don't research our next trip," I'd laugh at him and research anyway. And if by some chance I actually followed his advice and we had a bad time, I'd blame myself, not him. After all, as a planner, I know better!

Regardless, just pointing out that it was never an issue of the op not knowing how to research. He chose to respect his wife's request. Whether you or I agree with it is rather moot..there's still no reason to treat the OP as if they were just stupid.

 

[Magpie]

Regardless, just pointing out that it was never an issue of the op not knowing how to research. He chose to respect his wife's request. Whether you or I agree with it is rather moot..there's still no reason to treat the OP as if they were just stupid.

At first he claimed he didn't need to plan because it was just a "one day, eight hour" trip. Then, on page three after getting more comments about his lack of skill as a planner, he wrote: "I normally am a huge planner, but my wife asked me to just "go with the flow" and not overthink this visit."

Personally, I think it's a bit cheap to push the blame off on his wife. That's not respect.

(Also, taking ten minutes to find out how the new FP system works is hardly "overthinking the visit"... So I'm not sure his definition of "huge planner" and mine are the same.)

 

[4077]

One anonymous person on the internet says it is true and provides no back up source. True or not, that's pretty much the textbook definition of "rumor." Some rumors turn out to be true. As long as it's just one person playing, "I know what I know and you'll just have to trust me," it's still a rumor. There's a lot of "if" involved in single party, unsubstantiated claims that diverge wildly from the standard experience.

I agree. Even cast members give out inaccurate or just plain wrong information, so I am definitely suspicious of anyone's information that they got from their mysterious (insert spooky mystery music here) source...presumably someone on "inside". Even insiders can be completely off the mark.

 

[bumbershoot]

Perhaps Disney could offer certain times of year where they do offer a special pass with limited attendance, and jack THOSE ticket prices up.

Things just got interesting.

So some people on here are saying "raise the prices" and others "cap the attendance" -- isn't that exactly the hard party tickets? Yet people still complain about those being too crowded as well.

Had ticket events cost less than a one day ticket. Now if they requires a ticket AND an event ticket, than that would be limiting.

What if the laughing floor became something that more than 47 people wanted to see in a day?

Hmm. LF is funny and I've always been in a big crowd for it, and we don't really go at busy times.

If my husband said, "Don't research our next trip," I'd laugh at him and research anyway. And if by some chance I actually followed his advice and we had a bad time, I'd blame myself, not him. After all, as a planner, I know better!

Yeppers.

 

[3DisneyFanz]

Regardless, just pointing out that it was never an issue of the op not knowing how to research. He chose to respect his wife's request. Whether you or I agree with it is rather moot..there's still no reason to treat the OP as if they were just stupid.

The bigger piece is that this isn't someone who coming for the first time. If someone has made multiple trips just not in the last 3 years why would they assume things had changed that much that they would need in depth research.

 

[Magpie]

OP here ... I am amazed [and sort of creeped out] that someone would take the time to look up all my past posts. Get a life !



How dare you imply that I blamed and don't respect my wife. Your user name fits you well, because you are a birdbrain !



Let me make it clear to everyone that I have learned a lot on the DisBoards.com site. It has been a valuable tool that I have used to gain information for visits to Disney and the Orlando area, not to mention all the tips I have learned about on the Budget Board.

My original post earlier this week was meant to share the OPINIONS my wife and I had and have regarding our recent 1 day visit to MK. I was, as I explained, hoping to perhaps help someone in the future avoid some of the circumstances [real or imagined] we encountered.

My interactions with other members of this board have been, for the most part, positive.

However, some of you are just plain idiots.

I wish now I had never posted anything.

Gee... and here I never called you names. Never impugned your intelligence. Offered the best advice I could (specifically, contacting Guest Services with your experience).

And yes, you did appear (to me) to be tossing your wife under the proverbial planning bus. Your own words: "I normally am a huge planner, but my wife asked me to just "go with the flow" and not overthink this visit." Subsequently getting mad and resorting to name calling hardly does a thing to change that impression.

 

[PurpleDog]

Gee... and here I never called you names. Never impugned your intelligence. Offered the best advice I could (specifically, contacting Guest Services with your experience).

And yes, you did appear (to me) to be tossing your wife under the proverbial planning bus. Your own words: "I normally am a huge planner, but my wife asked me to just "go with the flow" and not overthink this visit." Subsequently getting mad and resorting to name calling hardly does a thing to change that impression.

LOL
I am not at all "mad."
However, anyone on an internet forum site who would presume to know anything whatsoever about myself or my wife is a not only a birdbrain, but an idiot as well.

 

[Magpie]

LOL
I am not at all "mad."
However, anyone on an internet forum site who would presume to know anything whatsoever about myself or my wife is a not only a birdbrain, but an idiot as well.

MORE name calling? And you couldn't even come up with anything new this time?

Okay...

Here, this'll help the next time you get "not mad" and decide to start calling people names:

http://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/resources/shakespeare-insults/

 

[PurpleDog]

I almost forgot:
Over and out !!

 

[Love Tink]

And yes, you did appear (to me) to be tossing your wife under the proverbial planning bus. Your own words: "I normally am a huge planner, but my wife asked me to just "go with the flow" and not overthink this visit." Subsequently getting mad and resorting to name calling hardly does a thing to change that impression.

I don't see that as him throwing his wife under the bus at all. You see threads on here all the time about people trying to make a vacation work for the whole family, not just for themselves. "My teenagers like to sleep in," "my wife can't get going in the morning," "my kids want to spend afternoons by the pool," "I like to resort hop but the rest of my family thinks it is boring." It's not easy, making sure the visit is set up to be fun for everyone: organized enough to "get everything done," but not just a frog march to do only the things the "planner" wants to do.

If the OP's wife said this time she would appreciate a little less planning and a more relaxed pace, how is it disrespectful to refer to that? I think it is disrespectful to insinuate that your spouse's wishes are meaningless and you would ignore them and do it your way anyway.