Magic 9/17-9/24 Eastern..no..Western

imlazar

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Here is my mini-report from the 9/17 Magic. This was our first cruise, we brought along my two sons, 5 and 2. We also brought along my wife's parents, ages 85 & 83. We had early dinner seating (after initially being waitlisted for it).

We had two adjoining cabins, rooms 6016 and 6018, both were category 8 portal rooms in the forward port section of the ship (that's front left for those of you land-lubbers out there). The rooms had an interconnecting door. Our room slept 4, two in the queen-size bed, one in the couch that converted to a small bed, and one in the bed that dropped down from the ceiling.

We arrived in Port Canaveral at around 11:00 AM after taking the Shuttle from the Radisson where we stayed the previous two nights (we spent Friday at the Kennedy Space Center and the Radisson pool). The shuttle dropped us off right in front of the terminal, we had about a 30 foot walk to the gate where we dropped our bags off with the porters and then we went inside. Check-in was pretty quick, about 20 minutes or so. It's a good thing we didn't fill out all the documents prior to arriving as they can be a bit confusing. Disney employees were aggressively working with folks to help us with the forms. We were checked in by about 11:30 but then we had to wait until around 12:30 to board the ship. The terminal became quite crowded, but they had TV for the kids to watch and several character appearances. There is also a food stand.

At about 12:30 or so the doors opened to the ship. It tooks us about 15 minutes or so to get through the huge line and make our way toward the gang-way, but first we had to stop for the group picture. If you don't want to do the picture, stay to the middle of the line and you can walk right on. As you board they ask you your family name and then announce it, which was very cool. We went to our stateroom right away, but found a sign telling us it wouldn't be ready until 1:30, so we went to topsiders for a nice, but very crowded lunch (a lot of strollers and carry-on bags lying around).

We then got into our cabin and unpacked. The room was fairly roomy, with plenty of draws, shelves, and closet space. The portal window was worth every penny (we didn't do a Verandah so as to avoid worrying about the kids falling overboard). After getting unpacked I registered my older son with the kids club, and then we all went to deck 9 for the depature party. It was very cool leaving Port Canaveral, seeing the coast-guard escort crafts, and watching the port employees waving with their big Mickey hands.

About an hour or so after we left Port Canaveral the Captain came on the PA system to tell us that due to Hurricane Philip, our itinerary was completely changing. Our eastern cruse was now a western cruise, we'd be at Castaway Cay on Sunday, sea on Monday, Grand Cayman on Tuesday, Cozumel on Wednesday, Costa Maya on Thursday, sea on Friday, and home on Saturday. We really didn't mind this at all, and actually welcomed the chance to see Mexico.

Here are my general thoughts about the rest of the cruise:

The good:
- meals were excellent pretty much everywhere, as others have noted, the dinners are very good, the deserts are outstanding.

- the personal level of service was amazing, our stateroom host and wait staff were very good, especially the stateroom host who really went out of his way to get to know us and who surprised the kids each night with an animal made from a towel (and chocolates). It was always nice coming back from dinner and seeing the room all ready for bed.

- the staff was consistently fantastic. I spoke with probably a dozen or so staff members and they were all energetic, enthusiastic, and anxious to help in any way they could. The cruise director Rachel was an abundance of energy.

- the ship is a beauty, if you've seen pictures you can grasp what it looks like on the outside, but the inside is fantastic as well. Take a lot of time and just walk around

- the Mickey pool was a blast, our kids loved it more than anything, though it was hard confining our two-year old to the fountain area since he isn't toilet trained yet.

- the shows were all very good. The Taylor Mason show was a highlight and the kids are still talking about it. We really liked Disney Dreams as well. The Golden Mickeys was good, especially how they tied it into the formal night

- getting dressed up in tuxes for formal night was worth every penny, the kids loved it

- the pirate dinner was a blast as well, as were the numerous mid-dinner shows and character appearances. Don't miss your first night at Animator's Palette and your final dinner night wherever it may be.

- getting off the ship was a breeze, it was very smooth and we got through customs in very little time.

- the quality of the fast-food bars was suprisingly good, especially the hamburgers. They also had sandwiches and a fruit bar each afternoon next to the ice cream stand.

- we took in three movies in the Buena Vista theater, which is a very nice place. Having the movies was a nice break from the heat

- I liked the fact that classic and new disney films were running on the TV, as were shows about the ship itself

- The navigator was very detailed and is a must read

- my older son slipped and fell near the mickey pool, within about 10 seconds a DCL staffer was there providing him with medical attention. The signs say that lifeguards aren't on duty, but DCL staffers are poolside throughout the peak times.

- sea days were our favorite, there was no pressure to do anything or be anywhere at a specific point in time.

- the kids club was kind of a mixed bag. Our kids liked the open playtimes each morning from 9 to around 10 or 10:30. I liked the fact that they let our two-year old into the club if my wife or I would stay with him. However, my older son really didn't like the organized programs. The clubs were very dark, which might have contributed to his lack of wanting to be there, especially on his own. He never lasted more than an hour on his own. I sat through several of the programs and it seemed like about 70-80% of the kids were having fun, the rest were bored or distracted. The counselers were really great, they had a lot of patience and tried very hard to get those who didn't want to be there involved. I even saw one sit down with two brothers who were hitting each other and talk with them. However, many of the counselers had thick accents and it seemed like it was difficult for some of the kids to understand them. I think if our younger son was old enough to stay on his own with his brother, it might have gone better for us.

- Given that we went in September when kids were in school the average age of the kids on our ship was probably four or five, this worked out very well for us since our kids are 5 & 2. I heard from others that summer cruises have many more older kids.

The bad:

- the coffee tasted like they used ground cardboard instead of coffee grinds. Seriously, I was shocked at how bad the coffee was, especially in topsiders. If you are used to good coffee (we grind our own beans at home), you will be very dissappointed.

- the goofy pool is a mess. It was very dirty with pieces of trash floating in it (napkins I think?). It was also very crowded. This pool should have been twice the size that it was for the size of the ship. BTW, the Mickey Pool was closed twice for cleaning during our last day at sea. That isn't Disney's fault though, I suspect that parents take chances with their kids by not putting them in swim diapers so that they aren't confined to the fountain area. Each cleaning took an hour or so. Disney is VERY strict about keeping kids in swim diapers out of the pools and in the fountain area in the starboard mickey ear.

- My wife commented that there were something like 10 bars, but no inside cafeteria that was always open. If you wanted a bite when topsiders was closed, your only choice was to outside to deck 9. There was also only one drink station in the aft section of deck 9. Another one near the bow would have been nice.

- lines for character appearances were very long, typically 15-25 minutes for the more popular characters, sometimes longer

- the photographers were constantly taking our picture, which we didn't really mind very much, but they were very poorly organized. Prepare to spend a good deal of time in Shutters hunting for your pictures if you wish to buy them (which are very expensive). They really need a number system or something better.

- Our 8:15 character breakfast was too early, given that we went to Disney Dreams the night before so it was a late night.

- the last day is kind of crazy, we had a 6:45 breakfast seating and left our room around 8:00 AM. Needless to say, we were all pretty tired.

The ports:

- Castaway Cay looked nice, but it was a bit of a long walk from the ship and it was very hot. We didn't stay very long and we skipped lunch on the island so that we could get back to the ship. The kids didn't like the heat and didn't want to stay on the island.

- Grand Cayman was very crowded and not especially easy to get around with a stroller. We went to a few shops then went back to the ship. At each shop there is a "greater" who tries to get you to come inside.

- Cozumel was much nicer than Grand Cayman. We did the SeaWorld partial-submarine tour and we loved it, though it was very pricey (nearly $140 for the four of us), we could have saved a few bucks if we booked it ourselves. It is about a 50 foot walk from the pier.

- Costa Maya was sort of a mini Castaway Cay, with several shops and restuarants and two large pools. There wasn't much to see or do and we didn't stay very long. Again, the heat was very strong, I believe it was in the mid 90's and very humid.

Tips:
- we bought the water service, it was a good deal and we're glad we did it. it cost us $29 for 24 bottles of Evian spring water which were delivered to our room on the first night.

- read the passporter guide and the list of tips on this message board, I can't really add much to them. The passporter guide is easily worth the price.

- i'd highly recommend booking excursions on your own, most are very easy to get to on your own and are much cheaper than if you book them through DCL.

- don't try to do everything - our kids were exhausted by the third night, so we skipped a couple of the shows and got them to bed early. That helped a lot. Unfortunately we missed the pirate party.

- It was so hot outside that we didn't spend much time at the ports. In fact, one of the best times we had was when we came back early from Castaway Cay and pretty much had the Mickey pool to ourselves.

- I'd recommend bringing toys that the kids can use in the pool. During our last sea day someone dropped off a ton of beach toys at the Mickey pool that the kids all enjoyed.

- pack a lot less clothes than you think you'll need. I came home with about half the clothes I brought unused.

- packing dishwashing soap was helpful for washing the kids sippie cups.

- We spent about $850 on the ship, $100 of that was photos, $350 was tips, and $140 was our SeaWorld explorer excursion. The remaining $260 was water, drinks, and gifts/souveniers. We figure we spent about $100 in the various ports. Add that to the $3,200 cruise price tag, plus airfare, two nights at the radisson, rental cars, parking at the home airport, and it quickly adds up.

Bottom line - the trip was VERY expensive, we figured that in total we spent around $5,000 for the 9 day trip. We had a great time, but we're not sure it was worth it though at this point we're leaning toward another DCL trip next year. However' we're going to check out Club Med sandpiper and Sandles Beaches resorts as well before making a final decision. We may also just decide to rent a beach house somewhere on the East Coast.

That's all I can think of for now, hope this helps!!
 
Thanks so much for your trip report! That end of trip total can be a splash of cold water, can't it?
 
Glad you enjoyed the cruise. Did your inlaws like it?

With kids your age you should check out FDR Resort or Franklin D Resort in Jamaica. All rooms are 1 bedroom suites and you get a peronal nanny to help with the little ones. Only problem is if you go between July-September you have to worry about being hurricanes (at least the magic can move around) and it's hot (you get the breeze on the ship). But it's an awesome place.
 
The in-laws did indeed enjoy themselves, though the heat was a problem for them. Most days it was in the upper 80's or low 90's. They got to go to Palo as well, which we couldn't do due to the lack of our older one's willingness to stay in the kids club. :-(

Thanks for the tip about FDR.
 

What a lovely story and many thanks for telling about the DCL Cruise. Seem you all had a great times apart from bad news!!

I am interesting to read your story and make me think something. '

I am going to 3 days wonder cruise next April. Maybe 3 days not enough or enough!!

Best Wishes from Scotland :cool1:
 
Did you get Grand Cayman and Cozumel mixed up in your report. I don't recall that there were "greeters" in Grand Cayman but they were in every store in Cozumel. IN fact, some can be rude. The Atlantis submarine is only a few feet from the tender port in Grand Cayman, and Grand Cayman is a much cleaner and less congested island than Cozumel which I believe is the most popular cruise port in the world.
 
captchris said:
Did you get Grand Cayman and Cozumel mixed up in your report. I don't recall that there were "greeters" in Grand Cayman but they were in every store in Cozumel. IN fact, some can be rude. The Atlantis submarine is only a few feet from the tender port in Grand Cayman, and Grand Cayman is a much cleaner and less congested island than Cozumel which I believe is the most popular cruise port in the world.

We saw greeters in both ports, we thought Cozumel was a lot nicer though, and much easier to get around. From the ship we walked north to the pedestrian mall area where there are a lot of shops, restaurants and markets.

You are right though, we did the SeaWorld sub in Grand Cayman, not Cozumel. Thanks!!
 
hi. we were on the same sailing as imlazar. just a few points to add, if you don't mind:

--we were in room 6116, not far from you. we were upgraded to a balcony, and i was definitely worried about my 17 month old figuring out a way to climb up, but all was well, and i didn't need to be so worried. the room was spacious and nice (we sailed with our 2 kids, ages 4 and 1), but i'm not sure i'd do a balcony again. why? some of our neighbors were smoking on their balconies. we don't smoke and are sensitive to it. oftentimes we'd be out there enjoying the fresh air, and we'd have to come in, and even then the smoke sort of lingered in our room for a while. it would be nice if maybe one side of the ship allowed smoking and the other didn't.

--we also had a tricky time keeping our little one in the splash pool vs the regular pool. some people solved that dilemma by taking the swim diapers off their children and letting them go in the regular pool, but i would have felt horrible if my child ended up being the reason for the pool to close down! we saw the pool closed down 3 times: once on monday night (not sure of the cause), and twice on the costa maya afternoon, when it was closed down from children vomiting in the pool, not from the swim-diaper-less scenario.

--i was impressed with how clean everything was kept. draining and cleaning the pools was a hassle, but stuff happens, and i'd rather be swimming in clean water than, well, not so clean water. also, we had to use hand wipes upon entering every restaurant or buffet line. the last few cruises i've been on, i've been very careful with handwashing, but i've still caught colds and minor illnesses. this time, i stayed healthy, and i think it was because of the ship-wide policy on trying to keep everyone's hands clean. i also thought it was annoying that the handwashing signs in the bathroom detail how you should wash with warm water for 20 seconds or whatever, but the sinks are automatic and there's no way to control the water temperature and it always came out cold. oh well.

--the kids club worked out very well for us, which was actually surprising since our daughter is very clingy. i'm not sure what exactly went on in there though. one time i peeked in at my daughter playing a game by herself ...another girl walked up and wanted to join in, and my daughter wanted to finish the little game she was playing, and eventually the other kid kicked the toy my daughter was playing with and happened to kick my daughter's toe in the process. i saw my daughter report it to a counselor, he nodded, and then everyone went back to normal. after i got her back to the room, i saw that her toe had a small cut and was bleeding (i suspected from the kick). luckily, i saw which child was the cause, we went back to the club and reported it, and they said they'd talk to that child (who already had several talkings-to). i guess it's not really their job to be teaching and disciplining, since it's more of a camp than a school, but i wish they'd followed up a bit better initially (before i complained). also, on the last day, i picked my daughter up and she said she had a red mark on her arm, and there was a bandaid there. sometimes she is sensitive, so i just thought it was a little scratch. i asked the counselors (about 6 different ones at 2 different times), and no one knew what happened, and there was no indication in the computer system either. when i took the bandaid off later, there was quite a large deep scrape. she doesn't seem to know what happened or when. and neither does anyone else. a little strange, and then it made me feel a little uneasy about what was going on in the club when i wasn't there. however, she still had a fun time.

--our bigger complaint was with flounder's reef nursery. the staff and facility was just fine, there just weren't enough reservations. i've read about people taking their babies up to flounder's during dinner if the kids were getting antsy, and no problem. this week, it was completely full. we had a reservation so we coudl have some time at castaway cay and also a dinner at palo, but when the dinners or shows got crazy, flounder's was unavailable. i guess we should be thankful for the time we did get, it's just frustrating when there IS a nursery, and you just can't use it. (we've been on other lines where no babysitting is available, but you take that into account before you go). we learned there were 145 babies on board that week. yikes!

--my husband also complained about the availability of food. it seemed like whenever he was looking for a snack, only fast food was available. on other lines, there is usually some kind of 24-hour food option that suits him, and we didn't find this to be so on disney. but disney has things that other lines don't, so it's always a draw. and had we figured out topsider's earlier on, we probably would have just dined there every night. we got the same waiter each time, and he was way better and way friendlier than our dining room waiter.

--our last issue was more a factor of our children's ages than disney. we had the main seating, so our set showtime was always 8 or 8:30. but our kids won't make it that late, so often we'd find some fast food for a quick dinner for them, go to the 6 or 6:30pm show, and then get ourselves some food at topsider's later. our head waiter noticed we were missing from dinner for a few nights, and really helped us out so we wouldn't miss lobster night :) and on the last night when the kids were WAY over tired, he happily made arrangements for our dinner to be sent to the room. that was really nice.

--we always do our own thing in the ports, but we'd been to these ports before (except costa maya). we took the public bus in grand cayman and visited the turtle farm on our own, then took another bus to seven-mile-beach (a nice spot of beach with a playground too), and then back to the ship. the whole thing cost us less than $35 for all 4 of us. in cozumel, we stayed on the ship. in costa maya, we took a taxi to majahual to the beach on the edge of town. there was no one there, practically, but we rented a jetski and took turns. the kids were happy to play in the water and sand for a while, until the 4 year old wanted to go back to the mickey slide (and that's when it was closed down twice in a row). that day cost us less than $50 as well.

this was our 2nd cruise on disney, our 11th cruise overall (daughter's 7th, and son's 2nd) on 4 different cruise lines . we probably won't cruise again until the little one is 3 or 4 and able to go to the club with his sister. maybe we'll do disney, maybe another line. we'll see. each line has different pro's and con's, so you have to weigh out what you want before you go so that you make the right choice for your vacation.

hope this is helpful to someone. i didn't plan on it being so long!
 
Great comments - we probably saw you at the Mickey pool since my 2 year old was in the fountain area, he played well for a while then wanted to go into the main kids pool. He isn't fully trained yet so we didn't let him, so it was a bit of a battle.

Flounders was a mad house, we didn't end up using it. I suspect it's due to the time of the year of our cruise, given that older kids are in school so it's a good time for those with pre-school age kids to take advantage of the lower september rates.

I'm curious as to what you thought about other lines. We've looked at Princess (Caribbean Princess ship) as a possible alternative. It seems that Disney is designed first as a kids ship with stuff for the parents, while the other ships are designed first for singles/parents but also offer programs for the kids. I've been on Cruisecritic.com and the general recommendation is Disney for younger kids.

If you were to pick a different line, what would it be?
 
i would say skip caribbean princess until both of your children are at least 3. we were disappointed with the children's facilities last year. our daughter never wanted to join the kids club (so this year could have been she was a year older and more independent, it was disney-themed, or maybe it was because there was a giant pirate ship slide in there...you never know), and there is absolutely NO babysitting available for anyone under 3 (i wouldn't do the private in-room sitting anyhow, but it wasn't even available). also, the pool area for the little ones was ridiculous. it was a tiny pool, probably the size of one of the mickey ears, with a little baby slide going into it (like the size of one of those little tikes slides that people have in their living rooms). the pool was located on one of the very top decks of the ship (read: very very very windy), and somehow, it seemed to be located in the smoking side of the ship. go figure. but the movies under the stars was really great, and we basically sat at the pool and watched movies all day (and our daughter loved going to the movies at night too).

we haven't been on any of the royal caribbean mega-ships (like explorer, voyager, etc.), but that's on my to-do list. we went on the brilliance of the seas about 2 years ago, and that was great for kids - a huge pool area with a big slide, etc. our daughter was too young to use the kids club, but now that she's had some experience, she might like it. i also like the options of doing the rock-climbing and mini-golf. keep in mind the kids have to be 6 to do the rock-climbing.

i also haven't been on any of the newer carnival ships, but i've heard they've really improved things. they also have pretty large staterooms (which is nearly a requirement after being spoiled on disney!), and i heard the kids area was pretty good. also, they have a big waterslide on all their ships (can you see a pattern here?!).

like i said earlier, we probably won't cruise again until the kids are maybe 4 and 7, and then i'm thinking we might do the rccl mega-ship (i'm curious to ice-skate at sea). beyond that, i'd still love to take celebrity (for the food), but we'll wait until the kids are a bit older.

so, to answer your question: if you have kids under age 3, i would say definitely disney. but once they're over 3, i think there are a lot of good options there. at that point, i'd say it just depends what you're looking for. if you're really active and want to rock climb and all that, then royal caribbean would be good. the pools on princess were really large, and the movie screen was very cool (plus, they had a very nice 24-hour buffet that we enjoyed quite a bit, sometimes more than the dining room). i can't give any recent personal recommendations on carnival, but i know a lot of people who have been on the newer ships (with kids too), who have really enjoyed themselves. we also like their 24-hour pizza. :)

good luck!
 
thanks again for the comments. The Magic is getting an outdoor movie screen above the Goofy pool during its stay in dry-dock next month. As of now, we're leaning toward the 11/11/06 Magic (costa maya), the kids will be 6 & 3 1/2 at the time. It's veterans day week, so one less day missed at school for my 6 year old (who will be in kindergarden at the time).
 
i think if your kids will be that age, and they like disney, you can't go wrong. i'm sure you will have a great time!

ps i'm not certain we met you at the baby pool, because i don't remember meeting any two-year-olds, but mostly a lot of 14-month-olds.
 
My family was on the SeaWorld semi-sub excursion on Grand Cayman as well (the 12:45 excursion). I was not... I was laid up in bed with a broken foot (didn't know it was broken till we got home this past weekend); I fell off of the sidewalk in Grand Cayman about 2 hours before the excursion was due to start.

I also found the shopping to be more annoying than anything; the greeters in front of each shop, trying to convince us to come in, was a huge turn-off.

I was disappointed that we had to have 3 ports. I'd have been much happier if the last 2 days had been sea days; the # of sea days is one reason we book the Eastern itinerary.

Of course, my injury didn't help things either. I was feeling slightly cheated before I fell. It will be too long for me before we can cruise again!

Karen
 
Karen, What are they doing for your foot? Did you have to get a cast? I hope your healing process is quick. Did you book another cruise on-board? We did not but are starting to look at possible dates. -Donna
 
Karen, we too were disappointed with the lack of the extra sea day. We enjoy the sea days best, we'd love it if they just did a cruise where they sailed around for a week or more and you didn't get off anywhere.

In spite of the changes we still had a great time. The Cat 3 suite we were in was very nice. The space alone makes it worth the extra money, but Sonja and Erika did alot for us also. They arranged things that no one else could have. :wizard: This is one cruise we will never forget. Plus I won't forget all the friends I made here before we left.

Emily
 
Donna, I'm just in a boot right now, but have a follow-up appointment tomorrow. Guess I'll know then if they'll want to cast it or not. I think they figured since I'd been hobbling on it for 5 days, it wasn't too bad. I'm still taking prescription-strength ibuprofen, and my foot is still tender and swollen.

We did not book another cruise onboard. No disposable income to pay that $500 per person deposit required for a suite. We'll look into booking again later, maybe after the first of the year.

Emily, I loved our suite and wouldn't ever want to go back to anything else. Brian felt like the extra services Erika and Sonja provided were worth the expense.

Karen
 
4kidsandadog said:
We did not book another cruise onboard. No disposable income to pay that $500 per person deposit required for a suite. We'll look into booking again later, maybe after the first of the year.


Karen

I'm kind of sorry I didn't book on-board. In the navigator they said they were offering a 10% discount plus $200 on-board ship credit.

I priced another cruise out for next November (2 adults, 2 kids, Cat 8). Disney's rate is $3,985 not including transfers or insurance. Had I booked on-board it would have been $3,586 plus the $200 on-board credit.

I've checked about half a dozen travel sites and the cheapest rate I've found was Costco for $3,657.

However, Disney's insurance was $316 (verusus $134 for Costco), but I suppose you can always buy the insurance on your own.
 
Wow! Reading the posts here makes me wonder if we were on the same cruise. There seemed to be food available at every turn on this cruise. I was thinking the exact opposite, it seemed that they served food and drinks
everywhere. I can honestly say, I never felt hunger the entire time on board.
Karen, I hope you will be able to avoid the cast. Are you able to walk with the boot, or are you on crutches? I cut my foot once and spent a couple of weeks on crutches and the worst thing was the pain they caused under your arms! I think that was worse that the pain from the cut. At least it will be a break from housework...I know that is not worth it but at least it is a small bright spot!! -Donna
 
Donna, I got a cam walker yesterday. It is SO much better than the hard-soled lace-up shoe I had before (think a pair of high-top Chucks with an open toe). It has cut down considerably on the pain and walking is much easier.

You mean I'm not supposed to be doing housework??? :rotfl2:
 
Could you tell me the condition of Cozumel? When we were there in 12/04 the main street along the water was completely torn up & the sidewalk in front of the stores there was a mess. There was plywood over holes in the sidewalk too. Someone said that it had been like that for 10 months already. I hope that they have finished that project by now. We didn't like Cozumel because of this.
 

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