MacKenzie Phillips expected to drop bombshell on Oprah tomorrow

[DisMN]

MTE. Leave it to the wonderful members of the DIS to say that if they were shot up with heroin and raped by their father, they'd do things BETTER.

Perhaps my choice of words "move on" weren't the best. Perhaps I mean get PAST it and move on. That can and does happen to people you know, they move past the pain and are able to function without re-hashing the events on a daily basis. Not everyone dwells on the past and their futures can still be quite bright.

I don't doubt her story at all but I do wonder about her motives for sharing it on Oprah and in a tell all book.

I still see nothing wrong with saying to yourself, "Hey! Crap happened, really really awful horrible crap....but WOW there are still wonderful life experiences to be had and I'm gonna have them and I'm NOT gonna live in the past. I'm gonna move beyond the horrors of my life and create good."

 

[rie'smom]

Oprah is turning back to her roots and doing shock TV. She needs to hang it up along side of Mackenzie Phillips.

Oprah Springer?

This story is sad. It shows that people from every walk of life have to deal with drugs and incest. Reading the people excerpt made me nauseous. And she still defends her dad! She is in need of more counseling.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

You'll note that I said at SOME point you have to get over it and yes, you CAN get over stuff like this. I'm not planning to elaborate further all the things I experienced as a young girl/woman but lets just say I had many terrible *things* to get over..........and I did get over it in time.
You really don't have to carry it with you for the rest of your life.

Color me insensitive if you wish. I can live with that too.

Alot of people do not "get over" things. It is the person that is the exception that can move forward.

 

[DisMN]

The thing is, some people can't get over it. I would hate for people to think there is something wrong with them because they can't. Some people never will get over it which is why the suide rate is very high for the victims. I'm very glad that you were able to pull through what happened in your life, but it is not that easy for everyone.

I do understand what you're saying but I've seen it a hundred times. Someone says they want to get over it but the attention they recieve from bringing it up time and again is too compelling for them. It's like they crave and become addicted to the attention so they never let it go. They do all they can to keep the wounds fresh.

I feel so grateful to be able to look forward to tomorrow......and it's so so sad to know people are stuck in the past, unable to move forward. At some point it's a choice to move on....really....it is.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I am sure it does have something to do with abuse she suffered as a child. Most addicts turn to substance abuse in order to be able to live with the trauma not realizing the substances they turn to will cripple them from growing past the trauma. People never really 'get over it'. The memories are there every time he/she is alone, when they close their eyes to sleep, when a sad song plays or the wrong topic is on TV... they don't need to keep it fresh, it never dies away. At best you make peace with it and learn to push it aside to make room for new better memories... but that isn't always possible for everyone. Abuse is crippling, it shuts down growth and forces many people to maintain the same coping mechanisms they used when they were children because they were never without enough stress to evolve. Getting past it requires a great deal of determination which is almost impossible for anyone who maintains one abusive situation after another because it is familiar. As long as no kids are brought into the mess my heart goes out to anyone dealing with the burden, but once the victim either becomes an abuser or enables an abusive mate they stop being the victim and start being the problem.

As for why she is doing it on TV, if you consider her entire rise as a star and fall was documented on TV and in the tabloids, I believe her desire to redeem herself just as publicly must be understandably pretty strong.

Whatever the story is I am positive it will be heart-breaking. I don't believe anyone on this planet just wakes up one day and decides to be an addict for the fun of it no matter what their families say. Sometimes bad people get their claws into a kid even with the best of parents, and MacKenzie didn't even have that going for her

 

[Kim&Chris]

I have always felt really bad for her. She just always seemed so "abandoned", if you know what I mean.

I'm anxious to see what her sisters' reaction to this interview will be.

 

[stahshee]

didn't her mom play on 90210?? as someones mom???

 

[luvmy3]

didn't her mom play on 90210?? as someones mom???

yes, Valerie's. I think she did Dynasty or Knots Landing, maybe Dallas? It was one of those.

 

[NotUrsula]

No, her mother isn't an actress -- that was Michelle Phillips, her stepmother (who was also a member of the Mamas and the Papas.) Her mother was Suzy Adams, a NY socialite; she was briefly married to Phillips in the late 50's - early 60's, long before he became seriously famous.

As to her reasons for doing the book (and the attendant talk show circuit publicity); I'm sure she probably needs the money. Her career as an actress is essentially over, and has been for some time.

It will be interesting to hear if Jagger deigns to respond to her story -- after all, he is very much alive.

 

[diznygirl]

I do understand what you're saying but I've seen it a hundred times. Someone says they want to get over it but the attention they recieve from bringing it up time and again is too compelling for them. It's like they crave and become addicted to the attention so they never let it go. They do all they can to keep the wounds fresh.

I feel so grateful to be able to look forward to tomorrow......and it's so so sad to know people are stuck in the past, unable to move forward. At some point it's a choice to move on....really....it is.

Conversely, insisting over and over that you lived through it and got over it is in itself it's own attention-seeking mechanism.


People are different. Everyone has a different time-table. And their own way of coping.

 

[luvmy3]

No, her mother isn't an actress -- that was Michelle Phillips, her stepmother (who was also a member of the Mamas and the Papas.) Her mother was Suzy Adams, a NY socialite; she was briefly married to Phillips in the early 60's, long before he became famous.

Wow, I always though Michelle was her mother, I never knew she was her step mom.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

I think the interesting thing to note is that the drug incident happened at 16. The incest situation happened at 19, and continued for 10 years. She knew what she was doing was wrong, and so did he. She also mentions that it was consensual. Aggghhhh. And I thought it extremely telling that Chynna was at first shocked, but then relatively easily came to the assumption it was true. She knew her dad and her sister.

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

I think the interesting thing to note is that the drug incident happened at 16. The incest situation happened at 19, and continued for 10 years. She knew what she was doing was wrong, and so did he. She also mentions that it was consensual. Aggghhhh. And I thought it extremely telling that Chynna was at first shocked, but then relatively easily came to the assumption it was true. She knew her dad and her sister.

Where's the interview with Chynna Phillips?
And ITA with you, a 29 year old drug addict or not, knows that consensual sex with your father is wrong.

 

[RadioNate]

Chynna's interview is with US Weekly, I think.

She believes the story to be true.

 

[momrek06]

From the article:

"John Phillips of the '60s band the Mamas and the Papas, engaged with her in a long-term incestuous relationship."

Just read the article that keerymom posted. So this was just not one time....

I have read all the posts...and I am starting to wonder how much this is really true OR just hype because of her book... Because this is just really disturbing.

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

Chynna's interview is with US Weekly, I think.

She believes the story to be true.

Thanks.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/celebrities/index.ssf/2009/09/chynna_phillips_on_mackenzies.html

 

[hentob]

I feel so grateful to be able to look forward to tomorrow......and it's so so sad to know people are stuck in the past, unable to move forward. At some point it's a choice to move on....really....it is.

I am happy that you got over your past, but unless you had a sexual relationship with your father, I don’t think you can relate to this woman.

As for choice, mental illness has NOTHING to do with choice. And I am going to bet Ms. Phillips is mentally ill.

 

[hentob]

I do understand what you're saying but I've seen it a hundred times.

OMG! You have known women who were shot up with heroin by their father as a child?

You have witnessed attention getters that had ongoing sexual relationships with their father as a teen?

And you have seen people like this a hundred times

Where do you live?

 

[momrek06]

And I am going to bet Ms. Phillips is mentally ill.

Very sad. She had a son years and years ago...I wonder where he is now. He must be all grown up.
The article said Valerie Bertinelli will be there to support McKenzie today while on Oprah.
I will watch today.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Where's the interview with Chynna Phillips?
And ITA with you, a 29 year old drug addict or not, knows that consensual sex with your father is wrong.

I assume since Chynna was well aware of the situation four years' before her father's death, she must have broached the subject with him at some point. If she hasn't come out to call it all lies now, I would assume her father confirmed the story.