Lower Fast Pass numbers?

[MomOTwins]

How all that equates to reduced FP's is still a conundrum to me. If you reduce FP in half, and still have a long standby line it defeats the purpose. There must be a logical explanation, but you'd think having people wait in a 20 minute line vs a 60 minute line would be more productive.

It makes sense if they are not going to offer standby lines at all and instead will be using virtual queue.

I will just say one more thing, which is that what OP is describing looks exactly like what happened to late-May fastpasses after they announced they were stopping taking reservations until June 1. Our trip (now cancelled) was originally May 29-June 3. When our fastpass day happened, May 29-31 showed nothing before 5pm at any park and no availability for rides that usually have them (e.g., BTMRR). June 1-3 were normal. The fact that June dates are now looking like what they did for may suggests to me that maybe they are now thinking they won't be open in early June after all and don't want to give people "good" FPs and then have to deal with customer complaints about wanting to have those FPs transferred to future dates.

 

[MMSM]

My trip was cancelled. I didnt think you could have your fast passes transferred to new dates?

 

[lisa cameron]

Until there is a vaccine or the majority of society has already had the virus, Disney will have to do something different to control and limit the crowds when they actually do open. Things will not be “normal” for at least a year IMO....or there will just be a new “normal”.

 

[Carol_]

Not if you cut park capacity by half (or more).

Then we’ll just be grumpily crowding the bus stops for rides to Disney Springs or pool/resort hopping.

 

[fly girl]

My trip was cancelled. I didnt think you could have your fast passes transferred to new dates?

You can’t.

Guests with the 60+ day windows are just now booking FP+ and the amount Disney is allotting is reduced.

 

[sleepymouse]

I wonder if they will restrict park entry to resort guests only? That way they can really limit numbers on capacity.

This is what I think is the most logical way to reduce numbers. Initially limit entry to onsite guests and Florida APs.

 

[chad_1138]

I’m trying to stay hopeful for our fast passes. It will be interesting to see if July's offerings look any different. We are lucky that our trip is long, and we have a resort day the day after we check in. So our first park day will be 60+2 and our last park day will be 60+11. Fingers crossed for July!!!

 

[disneydentist]

My best guess at this point (and I am sure I am wrong, but my little brain is running like a hamster on a wheel at this) is that they are going to have reduced max capacity. And I know they are all showing up online, but I have a feeling many hotels won't be open either. What is the point of having full hotels if only half of the occupants can get into the park? So with reduced max capacity, reduced hotels, they will save by reducing staffing.

There is precedent for closing resorts due to reduced demand. Disney did this post-9/11. We were upgraded from POFQ to the Polynesian on that trip.

They can also close buildings/sections of resorts while keeping the resort itself open. From Disney's end, this creates a more positive image than closing the resort completely.

And, don't forget, there's a lot of hotel capacity outside of Disney World itself. They could probably easily run the resorts at full capacity of they limited park admission to resort guests only.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

There is precedent for closing resorts due to reduced demand. Disney did this post-9/11. We were upgraded from POFQ to the Polynesian on that trip.

They can also close buildings/sections of resorts while keeping the resort itself open. From Disney's end, this creates a more positive image than closing the resort completely.

And, don't forget, there's a lot of hotel capacity outside of Disney World itself. They could probably easily run the resorts at full capacity of they limited park admission to resort guests only.

This would seem odd to me- limiting it to resort guests only. But I can see how that would be one way to do it. If they did that, would it include the Disney Springs hotels that get EMH and 60 day fastpasses?

 

[disneydentist]

This would seem odd to me- limiting it to resort guests only. But I can see how that would be one way to do it. If they did that, would it include the Disney Springs hotels that get EMH and 60 day fastpasses?

It seems odd to me too. I only throw it out there as a theoretical case.

 

[MomOTwins]

It seems odd to me too. I only throw it out there as a theoretical case.

I don't think it would work because it would exclude passholders. They could do a phased closure maybe though like they do on major crowd days where everyone is allowed in up to a certain number of guests, and after that only people with reservations or resort guests can come in. Maybe they could do a virtual queue for park entry like they did for star wars land entry on opening day to avoid big crowds at the gates.

 

[123SA]

Unless they are wiping down all of the ride cars between rides...what does it matter what the line itself is like?

 

[MomOTwins]

Unless they are wiping down all of the ride cars between rides...what does it matter what the line itself is like?

Because object to person transmission can be largely avoided by hand washing and not touching your face, whereas person-to-person transmission (from being coughed/breathed on) can only be prevented by keeping a safe distance from others.

 

[Jrb1979]

I'm surprised so many of you want to still go if these end up being the restrictions put in place. I wouldn't want to go til things are more back to normal.

 

[MomOTwins]

I'm surprised so many of you want to still go if these end up being the restrictions put in place. I wouldn't want to go til things are more back to normal.

You may be waiting a looooooooong time then.

 

[Jrb1979]

You may be waiting a looooooooong time then.

I have Cedar Point to replace it in the meantime.

 

[StevieB81]

It looks like, from reports that I've seen,that the curve has been flattened. Open beds in big cities like Philly, etc. Not as bad as the media was originally hoping for? If you think we should wait for a vaccine, that is NOT flattening the curve. That is something completely different. I understand people are scared. But we can't continue like this in perpetuity. There are always things out there that will "get you", but we haven't, in the past, reacted like this. I do what is asked, but eventually enough is enough. The cure can't be worse than the disease, and from what I've been reading some are proposing just that. Another month of this should be more than enough to promote some sort of immunity, let the doctors figure out a treatment plan, and allow the hospitals and other health industries time to "reload". That is all we were originally asked to do. More than that is overreach and pure fear politics. If things aren't opened up by summer, when viruses are least likely to spread, we should most certainly be asking why. Just my thoughts.I've been around for a while and seen lots of things, but nothing like this. Plus, I'd really like to save my trip in the beginning of June, so I might be biased

 

[Jrb1979]

It looks like, from reports that I've seen,that the curve has been flattened. Open beds in big cities like Philly, etc. Not as bad as the media was originally hoping for? If you think we should wait for a vaccine, that is NOT flattening the curve. That is something completely different. I understand people are scared. But we can't continue like this in perpetuity. There are always things out there that will "get you", but we haven't, in the past, reacted like this. I do what is asked, but eventually enough is enough. The cure can't be worse than the disease, and from what I've been reading some are proposing just that. Another month of this should be more than enough to promote some sort of immunity, let the doctors figure out a treatment plan, and allow the hospitals and other health industries time to "reload". That is all we were originally asked to do. More than that is overreach and pure fear politics. If things aren't opened up by summer, when viruses are least likely to spread, we should most certainly be asking why. Just my thoughts.I've been around for a while and seen lots of things, but nothing like this. Plus, I'd really like to save my trip in the beginning of June, so I might be biased

Things will open back up but at the same time you can't do it all at once or we are back where we started.

 

[e_yerger]

This is my big, pie in the sky, prediction for openings:

Phase 1. Disney Springs will open mid-late May
Phase 2. Disney Hotels will open mid-late June with parks open with limited hours, and open to resort (and good neighbor) hotels only. AP dates will continue to extend throughout this period. There will be social distancing & check point measures such as temperature checks, mask wearing requirements, and virtual queues for high demand rides. There will be no ride with a 10 min or longer standby queue.
Phase 3. Parks expand hours, and then open to people with multi-day tickets & AP. Social distancing perimeters still in place. Probably late July, early August. This is when the APs will stop extending. Disney will definitely have some APs that will get extra time (because they will come during Phase 2), but I believe they will eat those costs.
Phase 4. August & onward, open for full capacity, but still with social distancing perimeters.
Phase 5. Once new cases of COVID are at 0 for multiple weeks, they will remove social distancing perimeters.

This give Disney time to test their virtual queues, get some revenue coming through the parks & resorts, and also mediate the amount of gathering sizes.

 

[StevieB81]

Things will open back up but at the same time you can't do it all at once or we are back where we started.

Not back where we started from, but an increase. The curve was always going to be a roller coaster curve, unless we did nothing- then a huge spike (with many more deaths) followed by nothing. The roller coaster curve is actually the best we could ever hope for, unless the virus just somehow fades away to nothingness