Low Income Single Mom. Need ideas for places like the YMCA that give discounts.

[boomhauer]

I'm a little saddened that the OP has been lying, but that doesn't change my opinion of the things I have commented on in the thread.

I really wonder why this thread has continued on this long and a mod hasn't locked it?

Why should it be locked? Just because not everyone agrees and the OP was caught lying, doesn't mean it needs to be locked. This is, after all, a discussion board.

 

[Pinnie]

Why should it be locked? Just because not everyone agrees and the OP was caught lying, doesn't mean it needs to be locked. This is, after all, a discussion board.

We agree again, Boomie.

pinnie

 

[summerrluvv]

Why would it have to be locked? There is a very civil and interesting discussion going on here that mirrors real life. Just because it didn't turn out like the OP intended doesn't mean it is wrong.

pinnie

The bashing by some people just isn't necessary. Usually threads like this are locked rather quickly. That's why.

 

[summerrluvv]

Why should it be locked? Just because not everyone agrees and the OP was caught lying, doesn't mean it needs to be locked. This is, after all, a discussion board.

I'm talking about BEFORE the lies were discovered. The OP's question was answered, some took it a little further which isn't necessary AT ALL. I digress though

 

[mickeyfan2]

So someone that has worked and paid into the system in the past hasn't "earned" the "right" to collect the EIC, etc. Gotcha.

The lowest income tax rate should be 0% and not negative numbers. No getting "gift" money from other tax payers.

 

[Pinnie]

The bashing by some people just isn't necessary. Usually threads like this are locked rather quickly. That's why.

Bashing? Having an intelligent discussion is now 'bashing'. Catching someone in an untruth is "bashing". Methinks if one desires to participate in a discussion, one must have thicker skin.

I am rather enjoying this discussion and hope the mods allow it to continue.

pinnie

 

[summerrluvv]

The lowest income tax rate should be 0% and not negative numbers. No getting "gift" money from other tax payers.

"Should" be and IS are two different things. If you don't like, lobby to change the tax system, don't berate people about it

 

[summerrluvv]

Bashing? Having an intelligent discussion is now 'bashing'. Catching someone in an untruth is "bashing". Methinks if one desires to participate in a discussion, one must have thicker skin.

I am rather enjoying this discussion and hope the mods allow it to continue.

pinnie

Many are able to have an intelligent, civil conversation, but many aren't, as evidenced by these threads. I'm not talking about the OP lying (as I say that yet again).

 

[Pinnie]

"Should" be and IS are two different things. If you don't like, lobby to change the tax system, don't berate people about it

Just because you CAN (take the money or whatever) doesn't mean you SHOULD.

pinnine

 

[crisi]

So someone that has worked and paid into the system in the past hasn't "earned" the "right" to collect the EIC, etc. Gotcha.

Most people getting the EIC are at the entry point in their careers, or they, like the OP, haven't worked in years. Now, I'm a liberal, I think the EIC is great - especially when it helps people get out of relative poverty and start contributing. Even when it doesn't, it helps the working poor with kids raise kids. Raising kids, however, doesn't mean you need to take them to Disneyworld, or put them in the latest sneakers, or give them cell phones (or even just use the EIC to pay for their own broadband, cable, cell phone and designer clothes) - which, unfortunately, a lot of people go for the short term and don't use the EIC to position themselves for a better future but to meet some very materialistic gratification now. But I doubt most people getting the EIC have put as much into the system (yet) as they are taking out. Very different from the situation with SS/Medicare, where many people put more in than they will ever get out.

 

[darlak]

So someone that has worked and paid into the system in the past hasn't "earned" the "right" to collect the EIC, etc. Gotcha.

Seems like you read quite a bit into my one sentence post. I haven't mentioned EIC at all anywhere on this thread. However, since you brought it up...Earned Income Credit (EIC) is for anyone below a certain income level who meets the qualifing criteria. Having earned and paid into the system "in the past" does not qualify. You must have earned income in the year for which you are filing. You do not have to have paid taxes, just have earned income.

Isn't it enough that someone can qualify without having paid any taxes in the year for which they are filing? Now we want them to qualify if they have ever earned income anytime "in the past"?

 

[delmar411]

Just because you CAN (take the money or whatever) doesn't mean you SHOULD.

pinnine

Well in regards to taxes,you have to file properly. So EIC is a moot point because if you fill out the forms correctly or automatically on a program, that will just be added in there. It's the same thing with the child tax credit. You just enter the info and the tax program fills in the blanks and sends it along to the IRS. You don't have the option of declining a refund as far as I've seen on the forms.

 

[Aristomommy]

So she makes a decent salary and gets her health care paid for by the government? Hmm, I don't buy that. Decent salary and paid for by the government don't belong in the same sentence.

I wonder how many on here berate their eldery relatives for taking advantage of medicare.

I don't know about this particular person, but I know a co-worker who is like that. According to her, she can make up to $17 per hour and keep her assistance. She has 4 children, and "doesn't know who the fathers are", even though she has been with the same guy since high-school. But this way her fiance doesn't have to pay child support and they can live together secretly. She has a 4BR section 8 house, gets WIC for the youngest and Medicaid. The fiance works and makes good money but the state doesn't know that. Every week when she brags, I am ready to inform the state of this fraud, but not sure how to go about that. It saddens me that this takes funds away from those who really need it. I have seen some of her papers that state she lives alone with her children and father is unknown. Some people have the nerve, but I don't think the OP or anyone else here is like that.

 

[Pinnie]

Well in regards to taxes,you have to file properly. So EIC is a moot point because if you fill out the forms correctly or automatically on a program, that will just be added in there. It's the same thing with the child tax credit. You just enter the info and the tax program fills in the blanks and sends it along to the IRS. You don't have the option of declining a refund as far as I've seen on the forms.

I am refering to the whole entitlement mentality that seems to permeate our culture of late. Getting "camperships", free trips from relatives, and looking for the latest government handout is what I am talking about.

I am all for helping out those in true need. But l get burned when I see people trying to milk the system for anything they can get. Like a previous poster said, "Where is the pride?"

pinnie

 

[boomhauer]

I'm talking about BEFORE the lies were discovered. The OP's question was answered, some took it a little further which isn't necessary AT ALL. I digress though

How did they take it further? By pointing out that she lied?

With all due respect, I would have bet money that the OP was lying. That's a real sad commentary, but one found all too often on these boards. People looking for a way to save a buck here and there is great. People looking for ways to beat the system or take advantage of others while they turn around and take a Disney vacation is not. And at the Polynesian no less. I work my butt off, do pretty well, and I can't afford to stay there. Yet someone who is "just above poverty level" can?

One thing you need to remember about these boards. We've all been to Disney, we all know what it costs, and MOST of us have heard all the scam stories before.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Just because you CAN (take the money or whatever) doesn't mean you SHOULD.

pinnine

And then waste it on luxuries.

 

[aka-mad4themouse]

Okay, we've gotten away from the original intent of the thread. Time to turn your attention to another topic, as this thread is now closed.

In the future, please remember to post your thoughts in a respectful and considerate manner if you wish to keep a discussion going.