Lost - Season Six (Spoilers Welcome)

[glasslipper]

I'm thinking maybe Sayid is now Jacob???

 

[Angelhalo]

I'm thinking maybe Sayid is now Jacob???

I'm not sure, but that was the first thing our group of watchers said as well.

 

[Angelhalo]

Nope, no Walt or Michael.

Jack had originally met Desmond in the stadium, too. Yet, while Jack felt a sense of Deja Vu, he obviously didn't remember him from that meeting.

I haven't read completely back so I don't know this may have already been said. I believe this is an alternate reality. The theory being that every possible outcome that could happen, actually DOES happen all right next to each other in different strings of reality. If this is true then Desmond could definitely be on the plane and Shannon could easily not be on the plane, because in this particular reality, that could be the way the course of events occured. Jack could be nervous while Rose is not. Did anyone notice that last season when Jacob was going around visiting everyone at some points in their lives, he touched them. When i watched the season finale yesterday I noticed that A) they didn't show him touching everyone ie: Rose and Bernard for example. Doesn't mean he didn't but they didn't show it. And B) when he saw Sayid in the street and held up his map and asked him for directions, I never saw him touch Sayid like he had touched the rest of them....I have no idea what this means or if it means anything LOL, just rambling.

 

[happygirl]

OMG okay so I thought they might answer some question last night nope, It just left me having more question. It was nice seeing Boone again. It will be weird to see John as the bad guy this season. Why in the world is the season so short. I have way more then 3 months worth of questions LOL

 

[anniemae]

I think Sayid is Jacob. Locke is now the guy who was in black who told Jacob he would "find a loophole" and kill him. I guess he did.

 

[ICF]

Why in the world is the season so short.

It's the same lenght as seasons 4 and 5 were.....

 

[-Hope-]

Did anyone notice that last season when Jacob was going around visiting everyone at some points in their lives, he touched them. When i watched the season finale yesterday I noticed that A) they didn't show him touching everyone ie: Rose and Bernard for example. Doesn't mean he didn't but they didn't show it. And B) when he saw Sayid in the street and held up his map and asked him for directions, I never saw him touch Sayid like he had touched the rest of them....I have no idea what this means or if it means anything LOL, just rambling.

He touched Sayid- when he tapped him on the shoulder to first get his attention. What I found most interesting about Jacob's visits to people was that he visited each person at a pivotal point in their lives- a point that would have meant they never would have come to the island or perhaps never have returned to the island w/o his intervention.

If Kate had gotten in trouble the first time she stole something then she may not have become a criminal and thus not a fugitive in Austrailia.

If he hadn't given Sawyer a pen he may have never finished the letter to the real Sawyer, gotten obsessed and gone to Austrailia to kill who he thought was Sawyer.

If Nadia hadn't died Sayid wouldn't have worked for Ben and may never have returned to the island.

He was DEFINATELY the reason Hurley returned to the island.

No intervention with Jack, Sun, and Jin but definately pivotal moments in their lives- moments that ultimately ensured they were on that plane.

When they showed him visiting Ilana in the hospital he was wearing gloves.

And what was UP with Juliet saying "It worked". Did she mean it worked in the alternate reality?

Apparantly the producers released a statement saying that after the end of last nights episode that we'd have enough to clues to piece together the ending of the show.

 

[-Hope-]

It's the same lenght as seasons 4 and 5 were.....

nope, 18 episodes (last night counted as 2), seasons 4 and 5 each had 22.

I think this season is short because they are interested in quality over quantity. That's how many episodes it takes to wrap up the story. Sure they could stretch it out but it would just be with filler episodes. Not to mention that I'm sure ABC loves that the premiere and finales both fall during sweeps.

 

[Amy]

What about Boone's sister Shannon? He said she decided to stay back, but she was originally on the plane with him back in the first episode. It looked like everyone was on the plane except for her.

I do know that Shannon was one of the only characters not coming back. But it's interesting that she wasn't on the plane. They could have just said she was in the restroom or something. Interesting.

I didn't see Walt and his father either.

Desmond wasn't on the plane originally and now he is.

I think this is because the bomb DID go off and they DID change the past. The bomb went off in 1977, so from then until 2004 (when 815 was flying from Sydney to LA), their lives changed. In addition to folks being or not being on the plane, Hurley thinks he's lucky, not unlucky. Rose comforting Jack on the plance instead of the other way around.

I'm thinking maybe Sayid is now Jacob???

That's what we think, too. They made sure the Oriental guy said that Sayid was dead, jack tried CPR and it didn't work. Sayid was truly dead, and now Jacob inhabits his body.

So the guy with the black shirt from last season is really Smokey and he now inhabits Locke's body (and I assume he was also Christian prior to the real Locke's death), and now Jacob inhabits Sayid's body.

As for showing the Losties on the plane and back on the island: This kind of makes sense (as if anything makes sense on Lost. My DH thinks that they're doing it kind of like "It's A Wonderful Life" - showing what happened because they (well, Juliet) detonated the bomb, and what would have happened if they hadn't.

The way I see it, like Juliet said - it worked. They detonated the bomb back in 1977, so they changed the past. The island was destroyed - that's the only reason I can think why they showed the island at the bottom of the ocean. They're showing the Losties' lives on the plane and after it lands as 815 never crashed. The stuff still happening on the island is "unfinished business" for the island before the island can cross over.

 

[Amy]

He touched Sayid- when he tapped him on the shoulder to first get his attention. What I found most interesting about Jacob's visits to people was that he visited each person at a pivotal point in their lives- a point that would have meant they never would have come to the island or perhaps never have returned to the island w/o his intervention.

If Kate had gotten in trouble the first time she stole something then she may not have become a criminal and thus not a fugitive in Austrailia.

If he hadn't given Sawyer a pen he may have never finished the letter to the real Sawyer, gotten obsessed and gone to Austrailia to kill who he thought was Sawyer.

If Nadia hadn't died Sayid wouldn't have worked for Ben and may never have returned to the island.

He was DEFINATELY the reason Hurley returned to the island.

No intervention with Jack, Sun, and Jin but definately pivotal moments in their lives- moments that ultimately ensured they were on that plane.

When they showed him visiting Ilana in the hospital he was wearing gloves.

And what was UP with Juliet saying "It worked". Did she mean it worked in the alternate reality?

Apparantly the producers released a statement saying that after the end of last nights episode that we'd have enough to clues to piece together the ending of the show.

Ooh, I like the way you pieced together Jacob touching the Losties in the past!

 

[-Hope-]

Oh, and I think Sayid may in fact be soulless. When they took young Ben to the temple to be healed Richard told Kate and Sawyer that he would never be the same- and he became evil enough to mastermind the purge of his own people without batting an eye, not to mention all of the other stuff he does. I think healing him brought him back without his soul (think Stephen King's Pet Semetary) and will do the same to Sayid.

And when did the smoke monster/man in black/Locke have Richard in chains????

 

[Alesia]

nope, 18 episodes (last night counted as 2), seasons 4 and 5 each had 22.

I think this season is short because they are interested in quality over quantity. That's how many episodes it takes to wrap up the story. Sure they could stretch it out but it would just be with filler episodes. Not to mention that I'm sure ABC loves that the premiere and finales both fall during sweeps.

Season 4 had 13 episodes and season 5 had 16 episodes: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes

 

[paintnolish]

I totally agree that Black Smoke guy now inhabits Sayid. But, WHO are the Jacob and the bad guy? Ancient forces?

 

[ICF]

nope, 18 episodes (last night counted as 2), seasons 4 and 5 each had 22.

nope you're wrong....

Season 4 had 13 episodes (due to the strike) and season 5 had 16 (per IMDB)or 14 and 17 per Wikipedia (probabaly due to confusion over how to count 2 hour episodes). But neither had any where near 22.

Season 6 will have 18 (as your right last night was 2...and likely the finale wil be as well), so really this season is longer then the last 2.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/episodes#season-4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_(TV_series)#Season_4_.282008.29

Season 4 was planned (prior to the Writers Guild of America strike) to feature 16 episodes, to be broadcast beginning in the US and Canada on January 31, 2008.[68] Due to the writers' strike, the season instead lasted only 14 episodes, consisting of the 8 pre-strike episodes already filmed and aired and 6 post-strike episodes. The season focuses on the survivors dealing with the arrival of people from the freighter Kahana, which has come to the Island, and the escape of the Oceanic Six (their post-island deeds being shown in flashforwards).

Season 5 featured 17 episodes that aired on Wednesdays at 9:00 pm in the United States and Canada beginning January 21, 2009. Season five follows two time lines. The first takes place on the island where the remaining survivors erratically jump forward and backward through time until they are finally stranded with the Dharma Initiative in 1974. The second continues the original timeline which takes place both off the island and following the Oceanic Six's return to the island on Ajira Airways Flight 316 in 2007.

 

[daemom]

And when did the smoke monster/man in black/Locke have Richard in chains????

My son thinks that Richard was in chains on the slave ship..............

 

[Tinkerdreams]

So the guy with the black shirt from last season is really Smokey and he now inhabits Locke's body (and I assume he was also Christian prior to the real Locke's death), and now Jacob inhabits Sayid's body.

I agree that Jacob now inhabit Sayid's body, BUT the smoke monster is impersonating Locke - Locke's body was on the beach when the fake Locke dragged the other guy away.

 

[chicagoshannon]

I also think Jacob now inhabits Sayid.

Also, Richard was most likely on the Black Rock slave ship. How is he not aging though?

 

[glasslipper]

I agree that Jacob now inhabit Sayid's body, BUT the smoke monster is impersonating Locke - Locke's body was on the beach when the fake Locke dragged the other guy away.

Was Smoky impersonating Alex, in order to make Ben do what Locke/Smoky wanted? I wonder many times smoky has manipulated the Losties? I think maybe he was Christian, who else or what else? Any ideas?

 

[gometros]

What about Boone's sister Shannon? He said she decided to stay back, but she was originally on the plane with him back in the first episode. It looked like everyone was on the plane except for her.

I missed him saying that, which contradicts my post in the no spoilers thread.

 

[DisneyLover1217]

Was Smoky impersonating Alex, in order to make Ben do what Locke/Smoky wanted? I wonder many times smoky has manipulated the Losties? I think maybe he was Christian, who else or what else? Any ideas?

I think Smokey was Alex, Christian, the black horse, Eko's brother and the mental patient that Hurley saw.

It seems that the Losties were manipulated by both Jacob and Smokey. For what reason, who knows. When they showed Jacob and Smokey on the island watching the black rock head toward the island, Smokey did not want them there, as Jacob did. I got the feeling Jacob wanted to have the island be some kind of utopia where people can get along, but as Smokey pointed out, every time Jacob brought people to the island, nothing good ever came of it. I don't know, I'm totally Lost!!!