LOST - Season 2 (No spoilers)

[WatchinCaptKangaroo]

Maybe the timer is 108 seconds and is set off when there is a breech underground. It seems it started counting down once Jack entered.

My dad said that the gun was an AK-47 and the computer stuff was early 80s. It may not be an American installation (not sure I saw anyone assuming that just sayin...)

 

[TigerB]

Regarding the DHARMA symbol on Desmond's shirt, the circuit breaker box, and on all the food in that pantry and on the shark's fin:

My friend who has the DVDs looked at them closely this weekend. He looked at the scenes with the polar bear and couldn't find any symbols on the polar bear. Just an FYI...

 

[GoodFairies]

"Since Katrina, [Scott] Stevens has been in newspapers across the country where he was quoted in an Associated Press story as saying the Yakuza Mafia used a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to cause Hurricane Katrina in a bid to avenge the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima."

I pulled this from an article. A guy on the local radio station theorized that this was what the magnetic "thing" is. I guess it was a slow day in the news room, with only Lost discussions and this Scott Stevens guy as the big news. Someone was bound to draw a connection between the two. This was right after the premiere, I just never got around to posting it.

 

[TigerB]

Ok, another symbol theory/speculation (about the octagon DHARMA symbol):

Apparently you can 'fit' the numbers or 'plug' the numbers into the symbol...around the hash marks around the perimeter of the symbol.

Also, with the swan head/snake head/lock-ness monster head that shows in the middle of the symbol, almost makes it appear Yin-Yang like. Could that be the balance of good and evil the island tries to sustain?

 

[JennInTN]

Also, with the swan head/snake head/lock-ness monster head that shows in the middle of the symbol, almost makes it appear Yin-Yang like. Could that be the balance of good and evil the island tries to sustain?

I have become intrigued by the symbol. I have been digging around for a few days. I have no understanding of the "Book of Changes." I just keep finding very interesting information and thought I would share it.

There is a swan-like symbol which is interchangeable with yin and yang.
If the "label" is I Ching, there are some very interesting descriptions:

Kan: Pit, Danger, Flow of Water
Li: Separation
Kun: Earth, Feminine, Fertility
Sun: Penetration, Influence, Growth
Chien: Heaven Creature, Change for the Better
Chen: Thunder, Development of situations
Tui: Mountains, Obstacles, Blockage

There is an even number of broken and unbroken lines. When you add the numbers from the I Ching chart (sorry I don't know what it's called) the sum is 164. I was really hoping it would be 108.

Again, this is something that has intrigued me. I freely admit that I have no understanding, just thought I would add more mystery to the pot in which we stir.

I might be hallucinating, but I am having fun.

 

[bigmerle1966]

I was thinking about the song that was playing on the record player. If the record has been there from the time the bunker was first built that may be a clue to how long the underground bunker has been there. Does anyone know when that song was released? It could be that it was built sometime after the Cuban Missle Crises.

 

[TigerB]

Well it's a Mamas and the Papas song...which the band was only together for 2 years putting out 4 labums and about 100 recorded tracks. They were together from '67 - '69. So, I guess the records can't be earlier than that. But they can always be later...nostalgic people can bring something with them at any time. (Heck, I still have my Wilson Phillips cassette from the late '80s -- which, by the way, the girl in that is the daughter of Mamma Michelle and Papa John of Mammas and Pappas...since we are all into connections). Anyway, the bunker COULD have been built and THEN some time later stuff brought in, with their first inhabitants.

Hmmm...I wonder if we will learn more of the 'Adam and Eve' skeletons found in the caves. I hope that ties in somehow with the hatch, reason for it, and what happened on the outside when 'people got sick'.

Also, we know that the bunker has been updated at some point - Desmond uses electric-controlled monitoring cameras. Those can't be from the 60's - 70's.

 

[bigmerle1966]

Everything on this show is supposed to happen for a reason and I think that song is supposed to give us a clue. So if that song was out in the late 60's than the hatch may have been there since the early 70's. It could be that Desmond brought in the camera's and any updated things when he got there. Also the computer may not have been updated because of a fail-safe, if the computer was shut down it could take that as a bad sign and bad things would happen.

 

[brerrabbit]

I didn't think Desmond was using monitoring cameras. Quite the oppisite I remember thinking how antiquated the equipment he was using was. It was basically a telescope that utilized mirrors to look around corners. When he flipped the switch, servo motors would reposition the mirrors to allow him to look through the different tunnels. All of these devices would have been available in the 60's and 70's.

 

[ElizaB39]

Well it's a Mamas and the Papas song...which the band was only together for 2 years putting out 4 labums and about 100 recorded tracks. They were together from '67 - '69. So, I guess the records can't be earlier than that. But they can always be later...nostalgic people can bring something with them at any time. (Heck, I still have my Wilson Phillips cassette from the late '80s -- which, by the way, the girl in that is the daughter of Mamma Michelle and Papa John of Mammas and Pappas...since we are all into connections). Anyway, the bunker COULD have been built and THEN some time later stuff brought in, with their first inhabitants.

Hmmm...I wonder if we will learn more of the 'Adam and Eve' skeletons found in the caves. I hope that ties in somehow with the hatch, reason for it, and what happened on the outside when 'people got sick'.

Also, we know that the bunker has been updated at some point - Desmond uses electric-controlled monitoring cameras. Those can't be from the 60's - 70's.

Huh, maybe they recorded exactly 108 tracks?

 

[ladycollector]

There's no way that washer and dryer set was from the 80's, let alone the 60's and 70's.

 

[iggbees]

the song was from 1969, most of the stuff in there is from the 70's and 80's. with the exception of the washer and dryer. that's definitely new, like brand new.

 

[heidica]

There's no way that washer and dryer set was from the 80's, let alone the 60's and 70's.

Now, first let me say that I didn't get a really close look at the washer and dryer, but I was thinking - haven't Europeans been using front loading washers a lot longer than we Americans have? Desmonds sounds like he has a British accent, maybe the washer and dryer are European. Or how about front loading washers from laundry mats? Maybe the washer and dryer from the show are industrial strength - like used in laundry mats. Just throwing out some ideas, but I honestly didn't get a good look at them.

 

[flminivanmama]

yep front loaders have been around in europe for a loooong time

 

[ibouncetoo]

I might be hallucinating, but I am having fun.

Oh I hope the TAG FAIRY sees this one!

 

[iggbees]

the washer is a whirlpool duet.

http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=14265&page=2&pp=15

if you go there and scroll down to post 17 you'll see a picture of the washer in the hatch.

 

[CourtasanSatine]

heading for the tapes to be sure

 

[ladycollector]

Found this on another site.

May not be official, but cool anyway.

 

[ibouncetoo]

Has anyone speculated yet on the bottom bunk? The bed is made up and there are books and things on the ledge????? hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

[TiggerPiglet]

Has anyone speculated yet on the bottom bunk? The bed is made up and there are books and things on the ledge????? hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I wonder if it's for "him", the person Desmond thought Locke was.