Long time sex offender found....working on cruise ship

[tvguy]

http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/...suspect-caught-carnival-cruise-ship-/105040/1

I have 2 concerns here. Yes, how does Carnival let this happen, but more importantly, how does the TSA, Customs and Immigration allow to this to happen? I thought they were supposed to review the passenger and crew list for EVERY cruise?

 

[WilliamK99]

http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/...suspect-caught-carnival-cruise-ship-/105040/1

I have 2 concerns here. Yes, how does Carnival let this happen, but more importantly, how does the TSA, Customs and Immigration allow to this to happen? I thought they were supposed to review the passenger and crew list for EVERY cruise?

A little misleading as he worked for the Spa Services which is contracted by Carnival. This company is responsible for conducting it's only background checks... So while it's easy to place blame on Carnival, equal if not more blame is to be placed on the company that hired him..

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

As far as passenger and crew manifests go, TSA would probably only be checking against alert lists that don't involve US wanted individuals. ICE should be checking but there may have been a snafu somewhere. The article mentioned that he was questioned but not if a warrant was ever obtained. Given that there are pictures of John Does on Wanted lists, odds are there aren't necessarily active warrants on all subjects. There may have also been some kind of problem with any entries on him in NCIC. Without a warrant to go into NCIC and accurate information in NCIC, then ICE couldn't have known he was wanted...nor necessarily would his employer.

 

[tvguy]

As far as passenger and crew manifests go, TSA would probably only be checking against alert lists that don't involve US wanted individuals. ICE should be checking but there may have been a snafu somewhere. The article mentioned that he was questioned but not if a warrant was ever obtained. Given that there are pictures of John Does on Wanted lists, odds are there aren't necessarily active warrants on all subjects. There may have also been some kind of problem with any entries on him in NCIC. Without a warrant to go into NCIC and accurate information in NCIC, then ICE couldn't have known he was wanted...nor necessarily would his employer.

Good points.
Which is why when I was involved in Little League, I always cautioned that despite the criminal background checks we did, parents needed to teach their children how to stay safe, and parents should stay and keep and eye on their children at all practices. There can always be oversights in the criminal system, but the sad reality in youth groups is, sexual offenders often have never even had a parking ticket, so have no criminal record.

 

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A little misleading as he worked for the Spa Services which is contracted by Carnival. This company is responsible for conducting it's only background checks... So while it's easy to place blame on Carnival, equal if not more blame is to be placed on the company that hired him..

As someone that hires contractors, I can tell you the buck stops with me. It wouldnt stand up in court that I went on the contractors word, now go blame him. That being said, he probably got buried in the paperwork. Someone dropped the ball.

 

[Tower]

Good points.
Which is why when I was involved in Little League, I always cautioned that despite the criminal background checks we did, parents needed to teach their children how to stay safe, and parents should stay and keep and eye on their children at all practices. There can always be oversights in the criminal system, but the sad reality in youth groups is, sexual offenders often have never even had a parking ticket, so have no criminal record.

Agreed there. DS9 had a baseball practise last night. While I'm sure the coach has been checked, other dads are assistant coaches (including me). I was never required to have any checks done. One week, the head coach and the other assistant coaches were both away and I held the practice anyway. I guess the main thing that saves me from scrutiny is because there are no change rooms involved. Everything is out in the open in front of the other parents and, other than sometimes positioning a player for batting stance & high 5's, I don't touch the players. (ok, I'll give my DS a hug or something)
Too many creeps out there to take advantage of our young ones these days, and with the pornographic material so readily available to anyone, more are 'being swayed to the dark side'.

 

[kaseyC]

A little misleading as he worked for the Spa Services which is contracted by Carnival. This company is responsible for conducting it's only background checks... So while it's easy to place blame on Carnival, equal if not more blame is to be placed on the company that hired him..

Yes, he was hired by Steiner and they run the spas on over 25 cruise lines including Disney.

IMO, the ball was dropped by a number of groups including Steiner and the cruise line.

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

Yes, he was hired by Steiner and they run the spas on over 25 cruise lines including Disney.

IMO, the ball was dropped by a number of groups including Steiner and the cruise line.

How did the cruise line drop the ball? They were probably given some assurance that the vendor had exercised due diligence in checking out their employees. I, IMHO, do not see the cruise line at fault for any reason. Absent clear evidence that Carnival KNEW that Steiner had failed to properly check its employees, they did nothing wrong.

I will state that none of us know the whole story but based on the facts presented, Carnival did nothing wrong.

 

[kaseyC]

How did the cruise line drop the ball? They were probably given some assurance that the vendor had exercised due diligence in checking out their employees. I, IMHO, do not see the cruise line at fault for any reason. Absent clear evidence that Carnival KNEW that Steiner had failed to properly check its employees, they did nothing wrong.

I will state that none of us know the whole story but based on the facts presented, Carnival did nothing wrong.

My opinion only, any cruise line should be responsible to some extent for ALL of the employees interacting with their customers even if they are contracted from an outside source.

To be clear, no where in my post did I state that it was all Carnival's fault. Like others on this thread I'm only commenting based on the information presented in the article and never claimed to know the whole story.

 

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The good news is that they got him of the ship!!

 

[kaseyC]

The good news is that they got him of the ship!!

My thoughts exactly!!

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

My opinion only, any cruise line should be responsible to some extent for ALL of the employees interacting with their customers even if they are contracted from an outside source.

To be clear, no where in my post did I state that it was all Carnival's fault. Like others on this thread I'm only commenting based on the information presented in the article and never claimed to know the whole story.

If the cruise line knows there's a problem with a vendor and does nothing to correct it, I agree they share some of the blame. I also believe if a vendor employee is acting up while at sea, the cruise line should (and probably has the right to in their contract) remove that employee from the public for the duration and boot them off the ship when they get home. I'd even support just booting them off at the next port.

 

[Suz D]

I just read the article and an update was added 2 hours ago...

UPDATE, Thursday, 2:45 PM ET: AOL Travel News is reporting that spa company Steiner says it performed a background check on Kaloyanov before hiring him six years ago in Bulgaria, and the background check did not turn up evidence of his presence on a 'most wanted' list in California.

"We have a very clean background check on him," Steiner chief operating officer Glenn Fusfield tells the news outlet.

AOL Travel also reports Kaloyanov has worked on a Disney cruise ship in recent years in addition to Carnival ships.

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

I just read the article and an update was added 2 hours ago...

UPDATE, Thursday, 2:45 PM ET: AOL Travel News is reporting that spa company Steiner says it performed a background check on Kaloyanov before hiring him six years ago in Bulgaria, and the background check did not turn up evidence of his presence on a 'most wanted' list in California.

"We have a very clean background check on him," Steiner chief operating officer Glenn Fusfield tells the news outlet.

AOL Travel also reports Kaloyanov has worked on a Disney cruise ship in recent years in addition to Carnival ships.

Maybe they should tell their background check agency to try running applicants through Google.

That being said, I'm sure that he is not the only person with that name in the world so it's possible wires got crossed somewhere.

How much ya wanna bet the liaisons for every cruise line were on the phone to these guys PDQ and telling them they better run fresh checks on all their people.

 

[cakesnjammom]

great and he worked on a DCL Ship in recent years too!

 

[AbsyBabsy]

St Pete Times had a picture of him

http://www.cruiselawnews.com/uploads/image/Kaloyanov_Kaloyan_195.Jpg

 

[michellert]

This is completely unacceptable. Both the Cruise Lines and the agency have responsibility to do thorough checks on hired staff. The cruise lines are the ones that pay to have these employees on their ships, interacting with children and adults. Due to that fact, the cruise lines should also give more than a "ok great, they have checked him out so we're good to go!"

We as the consumers trust that the employees are NOT sicko perverted child molesters.

Don't forget these horrible perverts are complete REPEAT OFFENDERS and will continue to seek out children. It is about time we expect something done about this.

 

[woody73]

I just read the article and an update was added 2 hours ago...

. . . AOL Travel also reports Kaloyanov has worked on a Disney cruise ship in recent years in addition to Carnival ships.

Ewww!

Woody

 

[WilliamK99]

This is completely unacceptable. Both the Cruise Lines and the agency have responsibility to do thorough checks on hired staff. The cruise lines are the ones that pay to have these employees on their ships, interacting with children and adults. Due to that fact, the cruise lines should also give more than a "ok great, they have checked him out so we're good to go!"

We as the consumers trust that the employees are NOT sicko perverted child molesters.

Don't forget these horrible perverts are complete REPEAT OFFENDERS and will continue to seek out children. It is about time we expect something done about this.

I bet you have more sex offenders working at your average fast food restaurant near your house than on cruise lines...

 

[gismo1554]

http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/...suspect-caught-carnival-cruise-ship-/105040/1

I have 2 concerns here. Yes, how does Carnival let this happen, but more importantly, how does the TSA, Customs and Immigration allow to this to happen? I thought they were supposed to review the passenger and crew list for EVERY cruise?

I would assume that the fault lay with the Spa companys Background Check surely? I would think that Carnival would insist that the spa did the background checks of their staff therefore it would be them that were at fault but can't be sure. I guess occassionally though someone slips though the net and this is one of those cases! The trouble with background checks is that things do go missing and can not show up or false information can show up, hence were all told to keep an eye on our credit file and throw away any documentation securely etc. This sounds like a fault with the Background check and I hope that the spa company will now look at this in depth and see if any improvements can be made.

As someone else said, you probably walk past someone like this at least once a year and never notice. Unfortunately on a cruise ship you in a more enclosed environment and this can cause issues. The good thing is at least they have caught him and now hopefully will learn from this by improving background checking methods.