Local Disney Store - no bags!!!

[disneychrista]

, the fee here is not a tax of any kind; the revenue isn't directed into a municipal or provincial fund for recycling or whatever other ecological cause might actually result in some benefit. It's just revenue to the store.

The fee is not a tax here either. The fee goes to the store. It was designed to encourage use of reusable bags.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Limiting choices alienates guests

i would reasonably expect not enough customers are alienated enough to make a difference. The loss of the truly alienated might even be offset by new, environmentally-concerned shoppers.

and probably generates most of the complaints that Disney probably receive in relation to their Stores

Probably not.

next to delivery problems

Why would physical stores field complaints about order deliveries? Do customers place orders in the store to be delivered to their homes?

If anything, I'd rather they had reusable plastic bags that are like their old plastic bags, sold for a much fairer price and can easily fold up in even the tightest of spaces in pockets/handbags/rucksacks

These https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Fol...&psc=1&qid=1577632876&sprefix=Reusabl,aps,173 fold up that small. Smaller if you scrunch them. Or, these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073R8PJR3/ref=twister_B073R8NTMS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 - which aren 't quite as scrunchable, but they're darned cute and have loops long enoughto hang a couple around a wrist.

or 10mil at the extreme

Over 1/3 of an inch thick? Not easily folded, not easily kept in a pocket, not convenient.

 

[AurumPunzel]

Why would physical stores field complaints about order deliveries? Do customers place orders in the store to be delivered to their homes?

Because the Disney Store's online presence is now shopDisney, and that also encompasses their online store. You'd probably not see the complaints as most would directly contact them, but some do air them in plain view on their social media.

i would reasonably expect not enough customers are alienated enough to make a difference. The loss of the truly alienated might even be offset by new, environmentally-concerned shoppers.

By that logic, they'd not shop there (because most of their products are packaged in a lot of plastic) and refrain from performing functions that actually contribute to waste and climate change, which means ditching their oversized movie-theatres-of-an-SUV and ditching their lifestyles to live like cavepeople. And don't even get me started on posers (aka VSCO Girls) who signal virtue with metal flasks with stickers that carry environmental messages, yet are still happy to sip their Starbucks Frappucinos in single-use plastic cups and use their plastic gadgets.

 

[DisneyDebbie]

How many people will choose to order online instead of buying in the parks if they have no bag to carry their item. And the packaging for shipping is obscene.

How many of the people wagging their finger at me for wanting to use a plastic bag order lots of stuff on Amazon and have piles of package waste every week? I don't order Amazon very often, but the times I do I am amazed at the amount of package waste. Some people are getting packages like that every single day.

I agree about Amazon!!! The amount of packaging and waste has definitely increased.

I personally don't have a problem with bag bans. I've already adjusted to bringing reusable bags in my daily life. For Disneyworld in particular, I do most of my shopping at once and buy a bag

 

[AurumPunzel]

I agree about Amazon!!! The amount of packaging and waste has definitely increased.

I personally don't have a problem with bag bans. I've already adjusted to bringing reusable bags in my daily life. For Disneyworld in particular, I do most of my shopping at once and buy a bag

shopDisney are guilty of that too. I've even seen them ship smaller things in large boxes that use an obscene amount of cardboard, and paper to line the interiors.

As for bag bans, my views are very polarised on it. While I agree in principle with charging for bags, I don't agree with how some bans dictate what can and can't be used, especially when they end up becoming too restrictive. I hate paper bags with a passion because of how they don't survive in the rain and how some are so thick they have razor-sharp edges that can easily cause paper cuts. I've had that many a time with paper bags, and in fact, that was the main reason why, for example, when Gap experimented with them in the UK to replace the 'garotte'-handled drawstring plastic bags, they decided to go with thicker reusable plastic bags instead, which thankfully don't have the dreaded 'garotte' string that really digs into people's hands.

Over 1/3 of an inch thick? Not easily folded, not easily kept in a pocket, not convenient.

And that highlights the issues with NY's proposed reusable bag standards. I've already heard retailers pressuring the NY state government to have the thickness lowered so that they can use the same thicker bags that are already permitted in California, and the limited areas of Upstate NY that already use that definition, but are due to be superceded by the statewide bag law.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Because the Disney Store's online presence is now shopDisney, and that also encompasses their online store.

Yes, I am aware that both the online shopping and the stores are under the single ShopDisney umbrella.
Online shopping does not provide shopping bags. It does not appear customers can order online and pick up in store, "find in stores" being different from that. No bags needed for online orders, while supplementing to the store know they're going to the store and can bring a bag.

I agree about Amazon!!! The amount of packaging and waste has definitely increased.

That's our fault. We all need to start buying exactly enough to fill a box

I did get a small box yesterday, not quite full enough. It was padded with two of those bubbles they use. I didn't open the box outdoors, I didn't let the bubbles drift away in the wind (either full of air or popped). They, individually or as the pair, will not pollute the environment.

And all my purchased were intact.

 

[AurumPunzel]

Yes, I am aware that both the online shopping and the stores are under the single ShopDisney umbrella.
Online shopping does not provide shopping bags. It does not appear customers can order online and pick up in store, "find in stores" being different from that. No bags needed for online orders, while supplementing to the store know they're going to the store and can bring a bag.

Well done for stating the obvious, Sherlock.

I never said anything along the lines of "shopping online will always give me a bag regardless", I was just pointing out the fact that consumer complaints and compliments regarding what happens in Disney Stores always gets directed to shopDisney's social media. Even on Twitter, they'll happily answer a guest query regarding the Disney Stores.

 

[BadPinkTink]

I know it was mentioned in the scaremongering, so here is a photo of what happens with food deliveries from grocery stores, now that there are no plastic bags. The food gets delivered in crates, which are transported in refrigerated vans. The delivery person brings the crates into your house, and they empty them onto your kitchen floor / kitchen table / kitchen counter.

 

[Sparkly]

I know it was mentioned in the scaremongering, so here is a photo of what happens with food deliveries from grocery stores, now that there are no plastic bags. The food gets delivered in crates, which are transported in refrigerated vans. The delivery person brings the crates into your house, and they empty them onto your kitchen floor / kitchen table / kitchen counter. View attachment 461180

Yeah, and if it's Asda they rarely clean them either. I don't do online shopping with them now for that reason. If cleanliness is an issue with the reusable bags, you can easily get an antibacterial wipe and wipe down the inside. I like to know a major supermarket would do the same with the crates, though!

 

[AurumPunzel]

I know it was mentioned in the scaremongering, so here is a photo of what happens with food deliveries from grocery stores, now that there are no plastic bags. The food gets delivered in crates, which are transported in refrigerated vans. The delivery person brings the crates into your house, and they empty them onto your kitchen floor / kitchen table / kitchen counter. View attachment 461180

Yeah, and if it's Asda they rarely clean them either. I don't do online shopping with them now for that reason. If cleanliness is an issue with the reusable bags, you can easily get an antibacterial wipe and wipe down the inside. I like to know a major supermarket would do the same with the crates, though!

It's a health problem waiting to happen. What's the bet someone's going to contract norovirus through one dirty tray? Not to mention that they've now made it harder for those with limited mobility to use the online shopping service, when they could have easily provided compostable bioplastic bags. If the Co-op can do it, when why can't the others?

 

[Searc]

I know it was mentioned in the scaremongering, so here is a photo of what happens with food deliveries from grocery stores, now that there are no plastic bags. The food gets delivered in crates, which are transported in refrigerated vans. The delivery person brings the crates into your house, and they empty them onto your kitchen floor / kitchen table / kitchen counter. View attachment 461180

I'd hope those crates are sanitized between uses.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Not to mention that they've now made it harder for those with limited mobility to use the online shopping service,

No, they have not. But we with limited mobility appreciate your concern.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'd hope those crates are sanitized between uses.

Now that you're aware some grocery delivery services use reusable crates to transport food, you can confirm with the stores that and how they disinfect.

 

[Searc]

Now that you're aware some grocery delivery services use reusable crates to transport food, you can confirm with the stores that and how they disinfect.

Like grocery delivery is available within 100 miles of me.
ETA Even if it was, I wouldn't use it.

 

[AurumPunzel]

No, they have not. But we with limited mobility appreciate your concern.

They actually have. Some have complained about how the lack of bags has now made it harder for those to transfer shopping from the crates to their kitchen, and to make matters worse, some that live in multi-occupancy buildings (ie hi-rise apartments/tenements/council flats) have found it rather difficult and time-consuming to transfer shopping into their own bags, and some have also discovered that it's resulted in longer delivery times as a result. Before the phaseout, home deliveries didn't take as long as they do now.

 

[kaytieeldr]

They actually have. Some have complained about how the lack of bags has now made it harder for those to transfer shopping from the crates to their kitchen,

Links, please? I've tried various combinations of words and phrasing but have found nothing supporting this claim. And are you saying @BadPinkTink's information is wrong?

The food gets delivered in crates, which are transported in refrigerated vans. The delivery person brings the crates into your house, and they empty them onto your kitchen floor / kitchen table / kitchen counter.

It appears that no customer of any ability needs to "transfer shopping from the crates to their kitchen", that the delivery person delivers it directly to the kitchen. As for high-risk apartments (and I would guess tenements, and the not-existing-in-the-United States council flats? Pearl and Instacart deliver directly to my aparment, and Shoot recently delivered right to my hospital room.

Claiming controversy where none exists, and making unsupported assumptions, to support one's point of view isn't reasonable.

 

[AurumPunzel]

Links, please? I've tried various combinations of words and phrasing but have found nothing supporting this claim. And are you saying @BadPinkTink's information is wrong?

It appears that no customer of any ability needs to "transfer shopping from the crates to their kitchen", that the delivery person delivers it directly to the kitchen. As for high-risk apartments (and I would guess tenements, and the not-existing-in-the-United States council flats? Pearl and Instacart deliver directly to my aparment, and Shoot recently delivered right to my hospital room.

Claiming controversy where none exists, and making unsupported assumptions, to support one's point of view isn't reasonable.

That's because a lot of them are buried deep, possibly caught up in a swarm of other messages, so you probably couldn't find them, or you're not doing it correctly (try searching 'bagless delivery problem' on Twitter; I've found many results). But there have been, I can assure you. I've seen them as soon as Sainsbury’s and Asda have initiated the bagless deliveries months ago.

 

[skyblue17]

It's a health problem waiting to happen. What's the bet someone's going to contract norovirus through one dirty tray? Not to mention that they've now made it harder for those with limited mobility to use the online shopping service, when they could have easily provided compostable bioplastic bags. If the Co-op can do it, when why can't the others?

do you shop at the Clorox factory because I am certain your average grocery store is not significantly cleaner than the tray those deliveries are on.

 

[AurumPunzel]

do you shop at the Clorox factory because I am certain your average grocery store is not significantly cleaner than the tray those deliveries are on.

No. And as a matter of fact, my local supermarket is very clean. However, you can never know where that tray's been, whereas a supermarket environment would be rigorously clean. And I even had experience of American supermarkets, having been to many in CA, FL and NJ. Although 9/10 times they were Walmarts, I've never been to one that looked filthy, but then again, it's not in rather run-down locations.

 

[skyblue17]

I can assure you that there are a lot of places where groceries are purchased that would not be considered rigorously clean, and even if they are, the groceries are not making their first and only stop there.